Creationist argument about DNA and information

He will not respond because the god that caused this god was caused by another god, who... Well, you know the rest.

I reckon, after some investigoogling, that he cannot answer because that question is not addressed in his preferred source of copypasta.

Kind of ironic that he accuses others of "parroting" when he is doing exactly that himself.
 
I usually switch, day by day, from feeling sorry to laughing at these silly creationists.


Well they say Ignorance is Bliss.

And all the while as your laughing, you hold on to the "Pillars" of your belief system with a Kung Fu Death Grip...

1. Ink/Paper/Glue Molecules Author Technical Instruction Manuals/Blueprints.

2. The Universe existing prior to it's existence; then, creating itself from nothing.

3. "Nature" wickers together Hyper Nano-Tech Machines and Robots.

:jaw-dropp


regards
 
Well, ahhh.... those are my posts. :rolleyes:

I'm Enoch2021 on many forums. :thumbsup:

regards

Forgive me. I thought you were stealing Enoch2021's stuff. Misunderstanding the fruits of a century's worth of scientific progress is one thing, but the sin of plagiarism is something up with which I shall not put.

Please continue.
 
If there was a creator, Daniel, why did it fake so much evidence for evolution, and an ancient Earth?
 
Would it be better if I typed everything out each time? :rolleyes:

It would be more effective, in my opinion, if you put aside the verbatim transcripts of earlier responses and toned down the jeering.

Define Non-Sequitur (Fallacy)..?

You followed my statement about the college prof's letter with a suggestion I thought it was a personal job description. That does not follow and is also a straw man. The Rule of So.

I'm having difficulty formatting replies to apply to specific quotes. I'm on an iPad mini because I fried my laptop with a single drop of sweat. So, I am answering more in general prose because I'm not that great at copying and pasting with this device.

I understand, though, you have no coherent SUPPORT for any position, so you're reduced to feebly conjuring inane improprieties, right?

No, not right. In fact this is the precise observation others could make using your own posts. I'm thinking about my answers and talking to you personally, in case there is a sincere and decent person there amidst the jeering, shouting, extremely repetitive and patronizing responses you deploy.

I mean, R-Ya-Kiddin me love ??

Love? Is that what you think you're communicating?

I understand that you have an idiosyncratic definition of science that allows you to discount other systems of inquiry. Not everyone subscribes to your definition. I'm not mocking you here because I think you raise a valid point. Not a very robust point, in my opinion, but a point.

Well...as soon as I surmise the obvious, My mission here switches @ Light Speed from "persuading" to EXPOSING and to PUMMELING all arguments against the TRUTH. (SEE Mandates: Ephesians 5:11 and 2 Corinthians 10:5)

I can't argue with your perceived sacred duty which I believe is probably sincere. I just don't think it's working. Think it's counterproductive, in fact.
 
1. Ink/Paper/Glue Molecules Author Technical Instruction Manuals/Blueprints.

2. The Universe existing prior to it's existence; then, creating itself from nothing.

3. "Nature" wickers together Hyper Nano-Tech Machines and Robots.

Useless appeals to ignorance and incredulity over and over. Face it Daniel, you've got nothing!
 
Forgive me. I thought you were stealing Enoch2021's stuff. Misunderstanding the fruits of a century's worth of scientific progress is one thing, but the sin of plagiarism is something up with which I shall not put.


Well if you spent your time on scaring up some semblance of a primitive science acumen instead "Wiki/google scientist-ing" your way through the maelstrom and being overly pre-occupied and attempting to find out where the bear came from while dealing with his business end, it just may be more fruitful and coherent.

regards
 
It's starting to smell of Christian presuppositional apologetics in here.
Ya think?

For the larf, let us break down his most recent missive.

So then, your contention is that since the Earth is an Open System (and receives energy from the SUN) that it is Exempt from the affects of 2LOT, eh? ROTFLOL...
Yup. And it is spelled "effects".


“...there are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. <snip for brevity>
Oooo, a quote. I wonder where that appears?
First page of google results yields:
1. A google books link to a creationist tome.
2. www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-thermodynamics.html
3 and 4. www.icr.org/article/vanishing-case-for-evolution/ and www.icr.org/article/does-entropy-contradict-evolution/
5. https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/104-answering-gods-critic
6. www.apologeticspress.org/article/1072
7. sloppynoodle.com/csotalk2-16.shtml (Why I am not an evolutionist)
8. www.creationsciencetoday.com/34-References.html
9.http://conversation.spectrummagazin...ller-what-the-new-atheists-get-wrong/7341/102
10. debatingchristianity.com/forum/pda/thread.php?topic_id=1405...

Are we seeing a trend yet?

“Another ...<snip for brevity>
Oooo. Another quote. I wonder where that might appear?

1. www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-thermodynamics.html
2. www.icr.org/article/evolution-thermodynamics-entropy/ (again)
3. www.conservapedia.com/Second_Law_of_Thermodynamics (that made me laugh)
4. https://books.google.ie/books?isbn=0890513694 (The Biblical Basis for Modern Science)

By now, you can see where this is heading

I suppose Dr. Asimov is just using an analogy, eh? :rolleyes:
Yes, Daniel.

The Sun is the Savior, eh?
In this context, Yes, Daniel.

From here, one might think that some original thought might occur.


In Biologic Systems, to build "Functional Specific Complexity" (Cellular Structures) you need a SPECIFIC Energy Converter (Mitochondria/ Chloroplasts/ Metabolic Pathways) and INFORMATION Program (DNA) ALREADY EXISTING FIRST so as to capture, convert, and use the Energy meaningfully. Without them EXISTING FIRST, the SUN'S Energy is like a Bull in a China Shop!
Extracellular Nucleo-bases and Amino's are DESTROYED by Sunlight as is virtually everything on the planet without the Energy Converter/Information Program.

Mid Summer in Texas, the sun is destructive. It will burn the tires clean off a tractor if left in the field long enough. And it will eventually do the same with the roof on your house and your car if not protected. Why? Because there is no "Pre-Existing" mechanism to capture the heat of the sun and an information program to direct its use. Now let's put solar panels on the roof to capture the sun's energy and add an information program (computer) to direct it to produce electricity. Now the sun is no longer destructive. But-----and this is important, the sun will NEVER build the solar panels or write a program to convert the heat to usable energy!

See the "Specific" Energy Converter and Information Program in the above example?

Or do you ascribe to the Sun sending Intelligent Messages or Instructions to "Stupid" Atoms so they can build it? :rolleyes:

Guess again.

It is plagiarised verbatim from this post.

You're just Blindly Parroting this nonsensical mantra without the least bit of scrutiny/due diligence. I'd bet the farm you think DeltaG is a disco band from the 70's.


oy vey
One might be forgiven for expecting a final flourish but no. This also is copypasta from here...
https://www[dot]google[dot]ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjAjqCI58DLAhUEYw8KHRHQBLYQFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fevolutionfairytale.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F6443-evolution-in-overdrive-signals-and-post-transcription-modification%2Fpage-2&usg=AFQjCNGLHAUUOwI3y_Bp-jzmQfLw96xRvQ&sig2=SU6Y-RWDgg1hvuCUb-BITA

Link intentionally broken, it is pop up hell.
 
Well if you spent your time on scaring up some semblance of a primitive science acumen instead "Wiki/google scientist-ing" your way through the maelstrom and being overly pre-occupied and attempting to find out where the bear came from while dealing with his business end, it just may be more fruitful and coherent.

regards

You have clearly demonstrated, with dumb, out of context definitions, that you have no clue what science is all about. Your own "science acumen" is worse than non-existent (like god), it has a negative value.
 
So I plagiarized myself, eh? :rolleyes: Unsurprisingly, this is the most coherent substantive argument you've posted this entire thread.

oy vey

Yup. You have simply been regurgitating posts you made elsewhere on the intertubes and dishonestly pretending that they are genuine responses to actual honest respondents here. Personally, I do not have much time for "lying fore jebus"
 
I reckon, after some investigoogling, that he cannot answer because that question is not addressed in his preferred source of copypasta.

Kind of ironic that he accuses others of "parroting" when he is doing exactly that himself.

How does this behavior differ from trolling?

In any case, isn't is a violation of the MA?
 
I suspect the countless insults are being disregarded by the mods because they love us and don't want to take our chew toy away.


Yes, akin to the Chicago Bears being the 'chewtoy' for the Patriots in Super Bowl XX.

Then you charge me with insults :confused: This is tantamount to Pol Pot charging the Dalai Lama with genocide.

regards
 

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