Creationism comes to school

[BillHoyt]

Leave the public schools alone. You want your l'il fundies to learn ID etc. there is church, home schooling, and christian schools. Why do they have to push things further and invade public schools? Why?

The pop-your-eyes-out, head-turning, logic-burning inversion of rationality is very much like the alt. med. "freedom of choice" argument. The government, you see, is in the religion business. Evolution is an atheist lie, and the government is trying to promulgate atheism.

 

[pupdog]

Leave the public schools alone. You want your l'il fundies to learn ID etc. there is church, home schooling, and christian schools. Why do they have to push things further and invade public schools? Why?

One of the anti-evolutionists interviewed by the local paper does, in fact, home-school his kids. And there are a number of "christian schools" in the area. But we all know that's not good enough--anything, anywhere, that disagrees with our one-true-Truth must be eliminated. (Hmmm, come to think of it, these fundies sure are a lot like Daleks!

 

[Eos of the Eons]

They do have a choice for gosh sakes. Alternative education is highly successful. It is my choice to get my kids a factual education that has a firm base in reality. They need to quit stomping over our rights and our freedoms. We don't make them teach evolution at THEIR schools.

Intolerant paranoid ignoramous pushy hypocrites. I would love to see their reaction to a bunch of parents insisting evolution is taught at home and religious schools. Would that finally shut them up?

 

[SezMe]

I'm ashamed to admit I take comfort in the elitist view:
Only a very small fraction of the population is capable of pushing progress forward, and if given the ability to do so, they will. (This small fraction is the people who have the intelligence, AND the imagination AND the drive)

This percentage will have access to the internet, and will be used to ignoring what other (less elite) people say. As for the rest, does it really matter what they think? They are the load, not the engine.

(I do not count myself elite - I lack the drive)

Their vote counts exactly the same as yours.

 

[Art Vandelay]

pupdog

Of course ID really makes claims--they claim that natural selection can't explain modern biodiversity, therefore their "explanation" is the correct one.

First of all, it's a negative "claim", so it's not really susceptible to disproof. Secondly, it just looks like a claim. But looking more carefully, one discovers that it is simply an empty statement. "Can't explain"? What does that mean? The very name- Intelligent Design- remains undefined.

Would that that were true. One only need look at the politicization of science to see the consequences of ignorance. Developing new stem cell lines is verbotten in the U.S. because of religious belief. Funds, insanely, go to research projects to investigate the medical efficacy of prayer...

Let's see:
"verboten" has one t, not two. (I don’t normally mention spelling errors, but spelling errors made while accusing someone else of ignorance is a different case.)
Developing new stem cell lines is not verbotten or verboten.
Liberal have tried to get funding for stem cell research through politics, then complained about conservatives "politicizing" science.
Having views with which you disagree is not "ignorance".
Prayer is a legitimate area of research.