MaGZ
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GStan suggested a new thread could be started concerning the possibility of a controlled demolition of WTC 7. Below is his post from another thread.
.I can't say your theory is impossible, although the available evidence does not support it. You could make a sound argument from strictly a motive standpoint. The towers have collapsed. All firefighters on scene want to be looking for possible survivors among their fallen brothers in the rubble piles. WTC7 is badly damaged from tower 1 and has been assessed by those on scene to be in danger of collapse. A large portion of the rubble piles lie within the possible collapse radius of WTC7 so the firefighters have to be pulled away from the piles. They are standing around for hours waiting for it to collapse so they can get back to the rescue efforts. Someone has the bright idea, 'hey, why don't we just knock it down ourselves so we can get back to work? its empty, and its a foregone conclusion that it will collapse anyway, come on, we've got men in those piles"
Up to that point, the argument is plausible. But after that, it takes a high speed logical nose dive into the ground. Who would have dared to make that call? On what authority? With how many people was it discussed? What was the plan for hiding and keeping the secret? Why necessarily take the nefarious route of keeping it a secret? Why not contact Silverstein's insurers and say 'look, this is what we are up against, get someone over here now to look at our assessment and approve this plan'? Why not call a congressman or senator or Rudy, who may have been communicating with president and say 'we want to get our men, we can't, we want to do this and not be held liable, protect us?' Who would have put the FDNY at a liability risk for willfully and secretively destroying $750 million worth of private property? Where did the explosives come from? Its illegal to use them anywhere in Manhattan for demolition, so it is unlikely they would be able to get any from the immediate vicinity of GZ. Who went to get, or who brought the charges to the site? Who knew where to place the charges? Who volunteered, or was ordered, to go into a damaged burning building that virtually everyone on site believed would collapse and place the charges? And the most damning questions, even if only one charge was placed (and how could they predict in advance that it would only take one?), why did no one on scene hear the blast or see the blast? and why did the seismic equipment in the area not pick up evidence of the blast? Either everyone on scene who would have heard/seen it was in on it and has kept quite (except Silverstein of course), or it did not happen. I'm sticking with option B for now.
By the way, thanks for the info about the elevators. I suppose I had not looked at the building diagrams very closely before. I had previously assumed that the eastern-most elevator bank was in the area of the initiating event, core columns 76-78. In looking again, it appears as though that elevator bank is one set of core columns further west, columns 73-75.
If you want to discuss the firefighter demolition theory in more detail, we should probably begin a new thread, as I know that Christopher likes to keep this one on the topic of debris damage and fire collapse hypothesis
), or it did not happen. I'm sticking with option B for now.