Correcting vision by 0.25 dioptries a day...
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?Hmmm. Just found this thread today. Well, two things.
1. There was a real institute in Russia attempting to correct vision through daily exercises. I know because I was one of the subjects. They took them young, and they gave special bifocal type lenses, and they made you look far and left and right, and gave various exercise regiments that you had to do twice a day 30 minutes a day. I started at six or seven, so I do not recall the details. It was supposed to improve the nearsightedness, or at least slow the progression of it. Of course, it never made any ridiculous claims like this website here, but some of the exercises were similar. The researchers were very respected, and about once every 3 months I went in to check in, check my vision, get a new set of exercises. As I recall, the program was thought to stem the progression of nearsightedness, but the research study was either stopped, or I was dropped from it when I was about 12, and I do not know if there was any value to it. My vision did not improve, and did continue to get steadily worse.
2. The website, in Russian is unmitigated bull. In fact, I think it may be a parody, because some of the exercises are entirely ridiculous, and the tone of the website is comical. Example: headings of some chapter of this book ( we were linked to one chapter only)
-Experience of the fool, or my personal experience
-The form and contents children's diapers which you quite casually are wearing on your head
-Why a donkey called an a$$?
-The logical approach works on the principle: First you give me, and then I shall thank you.
-Where is the way, the output, the pass to the goal? In the a$$, my dear, in the a$$!
and so on...
1. There was a real institute in Russia attempting to correct vision through daily exercises. I know because I was one of the subjects. They took them young, and they gave special bifocal type lenses, and they made you look far and left and right, and gave various exercise regiments that you had to do twice a day 30 minutes a day. I started at six or seven, so I do not recall the details. It was supposed to improve the nearsightedness, or at least slow the progression of it. Of course, it never made any ridiculous claims like this website here, but some of the exercises were similar. The researchers were very respected, and about once every 3 months I went in to check in, check my vision, get a new set of exercises. As I recall, the program was thought to stem the progression of nearsightedness, but the research study was either stopped, or I was dropped from it when I was about 12, and I do not know if there was any value to it. My vision did not improve, and did continue to get steadily worse.
2. The website, in Russian is unmitigated bull. In fact, I think it may be a parody, because some of the exercises are entirely ridiculous, and the tone of the website is comical. Example: headings of some chapter of this book ( we were linked to one chapter only)
-Experience of the fool, or my personal experience
-The form and contents children's diapers which you quite casually are wearing on your head
-Why a donkey called an a$$?
-The logical approach works on the principle: First you give me, and then I shall thank you.
-Where is the way, the output, the pass to the goal? In the a$$, my dear, in the a$$!
and so on...
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Thanks for your insight, Renata. I wonder if we've seen the last of this guy.
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Have you ever heard of "double-blind" experiments? That's how you keep this from happening. It's standard in medical research. You might want to look into it.bratok said:
Here's a good example. You are expecting good results from homeopathy, as is the homeopathist, as is his patients. Result: good results -- so you think. But homeopathy has never shown results under controlled experimental conditions.
Some people believe that Planet X is on a collision course with Earth. If you gave credence to every belief, then you'd have to reconcile a lot of contradictory things. That's why belief is insufficient. Evidence, gathered with methods intended to account for subjectivity, is much more reliable.While there also is a believe that every ilness is caused by a wrong behavior. Like if someone has hemoroids, he obviously also has a hemoroidal behavior
and no medicine would have good and permanent results, unless he changes his behavior.
I improved my shortsightedness with exercises. There is a book on how to do this but as I passed the book on to friends I can't remember who it was by. My eyesight didn't improve fully but it did improve. It took about a year of exercising. I can read TV subtitles from about 5metres away, at one time the distance would have been inches. Nothing supernatural though
*Sigh*
Quackwatch has a webpage about vision therapy, and vision therapy is exactly what this thread is talking about.
Bottom line: It has never, ever, ever been demonstrated to be effective against nearsightedness, farsightedness, astigmatism, or any other refractory disorder.
Quackwatch has a webpage about vision therapy, and vision therapy is exactly what this thread is talking about.
Bottom line: It has never, ever, ever been demonstrated to be effective against nearsightedness, farsightedness, astigmatism, or any other refractory disorder.
Has the ideal amount of refractive correction in your glasses/contact lenses been reduced? You might be unconsciously taking advantage of "pinhole optics", i.e. squinting or staring through partially-closed eyelids or a number of other tricks which don't change the refraction characteristics of the lenses in your eyeballs but which nevertheless can improve focus under certain conditions.max said:
I'm nearsighted, and I was in vision therapy for a couple of years myself (major disappointment). I had this trick where I could focus better if I pulled on my eyelids from the sides so that I looked "oriental". (Pardon the term, but that's the only way I can think of to describe it.) I can also improve focus occasionally by blinking really hard and popping my eyes open quickly so that the film of tears covering the eye surfaces isn't uniform (once in a while the shape of the liquid happens to be a refractive improvement).
This is interesting, because I always thought this was an authentic treatment. I just based this on a guy I knew who told me about a treatment he got as a kid that was very similar to what Renata described above. He claimed it helped him, and it was done at the Mayo Clinic, so I assumed it was for real. Maybe he was in a study once and just thought it helped or was one of the statistical lucky ones.tracer said:
btw, I have perfect vision. Oh, and I just ate a quarter pound of baby carrots for a snack.
Tracer
I know all there is to know about myopia so no, I didn't squint or use any other trick to see better. my sight has improved but would never be 20 20 because of an astigma but it is better than it ever was. I believe the exercises do a 'work out' on the muscles of the eye and therefore are stronger and more efficient. The muscles pull the eye backwards or release the eye whatever it is looking at so as to focus. The theory is that in shortsighted people (i.e. can't see in the distance, only objects close to) the muscle is 'locked' in a particular position making it a rugbyball shape rather than a football shape, so the eye is shortsighted.
I know all there is to know about myopia so no, I didn't squint or use any other trick to see better. my sight has improved but would never be 20 20 because of an astigma but it is better than it ever was. I believe the exercises do a 'work out' on the muscles of the eye and therefore are stronger and more efficient. The muscles pull the eye backwards or release the eye whatever it is looking at so as to focus. The theory is that in shortsighted people (i.e. can't see in the distance, only objects close to) the muscle is 'locked' in a particular position making it a rugbyball shape rather than a football shape, so the eye is shortsighted.