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Correcting vision by 0.25 dioptries a day...

bratok

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...would you consider this supernatural?
I've heard of one health program that is, as claimed, based on some knowlege and exercises of anchient Sufies. While this program is supposed to make one healthy from all deseases, it is very effective in correcting vision. With simple eye-exercises one can get about 0.25 dioptries a day.

Like if someone has his vision -3.5 , it would take him only two weeks to correct it :j1: .

I saw it work with my own eyes and I do know lots of people who became healthy by this program. Would you consider any of this supernatural or something?


Thanx!
 
bratok said:
...would you consider this supernatural?
I've heard of one health program that is, as claimed, based on some knowlege and exercises of anchient Sufies. While this program is supposed to make one healthy from all deseases, it is very effective in correcting vision. With simple eye-exercises one can get about 0.25 dioptries a day.

Like if someone has his vision -3.5 , it would take him only two weeks to correct it :j1: .

I saw it work with my own eyes and I do know lots of people who became healthy by this program. Would you consider any of this supernatural or something?


Thanx!

No idea, what is the claim for the "program"?
 
And when people "became healthy," what illnesses did they overcome?
All sorts of, even ones that are considered uncurable by modern medicine. It is more based one makeing the whole body healthy, then just getting rid of a certain diagnosis.
 
Gosh, well thank goodness the practitioners are keeping it a relative secret. We wouldn't want something that effective to get out, would we? [/sarcasm]

Regardless of the emphasis on general health, there are potentially very solid and testable predictions there. Care for a million dollars? I think curing diseases thought to be uncurable through an ancient eastern mystical practice would qualify.

As for the vision thing - it might not qualify for the prize, as you mentioned it's just based on exercises, but if curing short or long sight through exercises is possible, you people who know about it have a duty to bring it into the mainstream, through scientific testing which, with such a dramatic effect, would be very easy to do.

And hurry! [/squinting]
 
bratok said:
...would you consider this supernatural?
I've heard of one health program that is, as claimed, based on some knowlege and exercises of anchient Sufies. While this program is supposed to make one healthy from all deseases, it is very effective in correcting vision. With simple eye-exercises one can get about 0.25 dioptries a day.

Like if someone has his vision -3.5 , it would take him only two weeks to correct it :j1: .

I saw it work with my own eyes and I do know lots of people who became healthy by this program. Would you consider any of this supernatural or something?


Thanx!
The claims: some undisclosed method "makes one healthy from all diseases" and "is very effective in correcting vision."
My Clausian questions: What method? What diseases? What proof?
Please provide answers.
 
I think curing diseases thought to be uncurable through an ancient eastern mystical practice would qualify.
It isn't that someone is curing a patient, who seats without doing a thing. The patient is teached what exercises to do, what feeling to cause in his body, etc. to cure himself.

We wouldn't want something that effective to get out, would we?
If there are about 285 million people living in the US ( if I'm not misstaken with the statistics ) and at least 20% of them need glasses and spend 100$ on them every year, then it would be at least 5.7 billions for the glass-industry every year. Plus contact lenses, eye surgery, etc., etc.

Now imagine, are they interested in a program being revealed, that would make everybody's vision perfect?

if curing short or long sight through exercises is possible, you people who know about it have a duty to bring it into the mainstream...
If you want, I can place this exercises here. But they'd be auto-translated from Russian.


Thanx
 
bratok said:
If there are about 285 million people living in the US ( if I'm not misstaken with the statistics ) and at least 20% of them need glasses and spend 100$ on them every year, then it would be at least 5.7 billions for the glass-industry every year. Plus contact lenses, eye surgery, etc., etc.

Now imagine, are they interested in a program being revealed, that would make everybody's vision perfect?
Heh, a Conspiracy, I knew it! Darn opthalmologists, with their secret societies and special handshakes, I knew they were up to something!

Sorry. It's just that they wouldn't have control over this stuff if it did 'get out' - there would be independent, open scientific testing.
If you want, I can place this exercises here. But they'd be auto-translated from Russian.
I'd quite like to see them actually, thanks.
 
Ok, here it goes. You can use this translator ( http://www.translate.ru/srvurl.asp?lang=en ) or any other. Set it to "Russian-English" and copy & past there this link -
http://fro196.narod.ru/health/norbekov/experience/exp4.htm

Or if you want to read the whole book.
http://fro196.narod.ru/health/norbekov/experience/content.htm


WARNING:
There might be an exercise during which you'll have to create a warm/hot feeling somewhere in your body and move it around... remamber NEVER move this feeling close to or into your heart or brain.


Good Luck!
 
bratok said:

WARNING:
There might be an exercise during which you'll have to create a warm/hot feeling somewhere in your body and move it around... remamber NEVER move this feeling close to or into your heart or brain.

Yes, I personally know a guy who did these exercises and moved the warm/hot feeling close to his brain and his head exploded.

True story.
 
KelvinG said:
Yes, I personally know a guy who did these exercises and moved the warm/hot feeling close to his brain and his head exploded.
True story.
And I know a guy who made this hot feeling to his heart, the rate accelerated to about 85 and stayed so for a few days.
Also a true story...

I think we were recently discussing the lack of such posts . . .
Oh, could you give a link to that topic?


Thanx
 
bratok said:

WARNING:
There might be an exercise during which you'll have to create a warm/hot feeling somewhere in your body and move it around... remamber NEVER move this feeling close to or into your heart or brain.
I knew a guy whose brother-in-law's friend did those exercises and his alimentary canal inverted itself.
True story.
 
bratok said:
Set it to "Russian-English" and copy & past there this link -
http://fro196.narod.ru/health/norbekov/experience/exp4.htm
Or if you want to read the whole book.
http://fro196.narod.ru/health/norbekov/experience/content.htm

Okay, I went to the URL above and copied/pasted as much of it into Babelfish as Babelfish would take, and here's what I got:

" Exercises for the eyes In the east there is an ancient method of diagnostics of diseases on the motion of eyes, not on the irridescent shell, namely on the motion of eyeballs. For example, specialist does request you to?narisovat'?by eyes circle/circumference looks, as you make. It does occur, depending on disease, the eyes do begin to somewhere?srezat'?angles, line is uneven.this again confirms that everything in our organism is interrelated and is interdepended. But person himself cannot trace the correctness of the motion of eyes; therefore ask someone of the relatives to help you. Carrying out exercises for the eyes correctly, we not only train/age muscles, but also mediated we work with the unhealthy organs/controls. Thus, follow the fact so that during the execution of the exercises of the motion of the eyes it is clear of?risovali?the lines indicated.We approach! From what we do begin any work on ourselves?You remember? But well- kA, straighten arms.At first accept?myshechnyy corset?.What for this is necessary?It is correct!To straighten back and to stretch smile to the ears.Then to inside artificially cause positive emotions.How?You this already know!They did make? But now it is possible to begin to carry out exercises.Only do not forget to blink! 1. head hold directly, do not throw back.View is directed upward (into the ceiling), and we mentally continue the motion of eyes under the skull to the top, as if you there looked. 2. A now of eye downward, and attention into the region of the thyroid gland, as if you glanced there, where our throat. 3. they looked to the left:eyes look at the wall, and attention left for the left ear/eye. 4. they looked to the right:eyes look at another wall, and attention left for the right ear/eye. Why it is important with the fulfillment of these, it seemed, familiar exercises to continue the motion of eyes at the mental level? Even in the ancient times in the east it was known that in the region of top is located the enormous beam of energy channels, and at the external edge of eyes?the centers, connected/bonded with the bilious ducts. Therefore, mentally continuing the motion of eyes, for example, for the ear/eye, we thus influence the bilious ducts and the liver.Eyes?this of the window of the liver.4 not randomly I speak about this. After external simplicity of all exercises for the restoration/reduction of sight lies the deep sense, which exits by roots to the antiquity. But, as in everything, here it is also necessary to remember about safety engineering.Do not overdo it.Any overvoltage in the work with the eyes leads to the opposite result. This is why here again I want to focus your attention on weakening exercises for eyes described above, which beneficially influence also entire organism as a whole.But first let us work. 5.?Babochka?.Indispensable condition of fulfilling the exercise:head is fixed, we work only by eyes.it must be obtained a maximally possible size/dimension in the limits of face, but muscle of eyeballs in this case do not overstrain, follow the state! View is transferred/translated in this sequence:in the lower left angle, into the upper right angle, into the lower right angle, into the upper left angle. But now vice versa:in the lower right angle, into the upper left angle, into the lower left angle, into the upper right angle.But now weaken eyes, blink chasto-chasto, easily/readily-easily/readily-.Approximately in the manner that it waves by the wings of motylek.Never squint, never open/disclose eye very widely!All this creates the stress/voltage, which it is contraindicated,! 6.?Vos'merka?.An indispensable condition of fulfilling this exercise is the same as in?Babochke?. But now by eyes smoothly describe horizontal eight or infinity sign of maximum size within the limits of face.To one side several times, and then into another.Blink chasto-chasto, easily/readily-easily/readily-. 7. exercise to the squint. Slanting muscles of eyes here work.It is very effective with the short sightedness.It contributes to the development of the peripheral vision. Special observation:this exercise should be carried out in the calm situation.No one and nothing must you frighten. Look to your tip of the nose, after mowing eyes.Or place before itself finger/pin and look at it without the detachment, gradually drawing it nearer a tip of nose.Eyes refer. After 3t "

Seems the me the field of online translation has a ways to go. Too bad, I was hoping to fix up my lousy eyes and cure all other diseases while I was at it.

Cute cartoons, though.
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
Bratok, perhaps you mean Mirzacarim Norbekov's Experience of the fool or the key to brightness, as mentioned at this multi-level marketing site in Russia:
http://www.stardream.nsk.su/businesseng.htm#MLM
~~ Paul

While this site sure is a con-game, or a LOHOTRON as we call it, the book is the one. Only I wan't able to find an English version of it in google. I heard of it being translated about half a year ago... probably it takes longer :confused: .

So bare with the autotranslated one ;) .

Here's a link to his English site.
http://www.norbekovusa.com/index.asp?cat=102617


Good Luck!
 

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