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Skeptic Ginger
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There's no supporting research. The concept on its face is bunk. That light would not reach much of any areas the virus would be residing.
From that link:
This is so not relevant.
There was a mention of using light in the stomach but it said h-pylori recolonized the stomach shortly after. IOW it was not a useful treatment of internal infections.
Nothing new there.TheRealnz;13069705[url said:
I'm sorry, but there's nothing to see here. There is absolutely nothing here that supports Trump's rambling about light to treat an internal infection.
Stuff like this belongs in the CT forum.
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Skeptic Ginger
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US soldier supposedly "identified" by CT'ists as one who brought COVID to Wuhan.
No, of course I'm not buying this one bit. I may not have been posting much in the past years, but I still hate stupidity, and too many CTs fall into that category.
Anyway, CNN story: US Army reservist is being blamed by conspiracy peddlers - including many Chinese ones - as being the one who brought COVID-19 to Wuhan.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/tech/coronavirus-conspiracy-theory/index.html
The epidemiology clearly shows this isn't some manufactured virus. Claiming otherwise is ignoring what's already known.
Also: This is yet another example of conspiracy fantasies actually doing real world harm. Truth is too often all too difficult to discern, especially in the midst of a crisis, but that never justified latching onto fantasy.
Enough soapboxing from me. I just thought I'd share this link.
No, of course I'm not buying this one bit. I may not have been posting much in the past years, but I still hate stupidity, and too many CTs fall into that category.
Anyway, CNN story: US Army reservist is being blamed by conspiracy peddlers - including many Chinese ones - as being the one who brought COVID-19 to Wuhan.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/tech/coronavirus-conspiracy-theory/index.html
The epidemiology clearly shows this isn't some manufactured virus. Claiming otherwise is ignoring what's already known.
Also: This is yet another example of conspiracy fantasies actually doing real world harm. Truth is too often all too difficult to discern, especially in the midst of a crisis, but that never justified latching onto fantasy.
Enough soapboxing from me. I just thought I'd share this link.
You do know you don't have to watch for 11 minutes right? You can just scroll to the 11 minute mark or whatever time I said. Certainly you people with big you know what's can figure that out. I'm starting to think some of you are no where near as smart or clever as you think you are.
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Dr.Sid
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Watch out, we got a badass over here !
So because Bill Mahar might believe some nonsense this means that his guest don't know what they are talking about? If so I guess that includes people like Penn Jillette, Neil Degrassi Tyson, Bill Nye, and many others.
Trebuchet
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Those would be an illusionist, an astronomer, and an engineer. Not doctors.
No ****. My point was that just because Bill Mahar may believe some crazy stuff does not mean that his guest are nutty too. I thought that would be clear. Apparently not clear enough for you so called smart people.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. He is one of the morons that claimed there was a "patent on coronavirus" by the Pirbright Institute, which was actually something to do with chickens having avian flu. Right wing nutballs and nazis have parrotted this nonsense as well.
I also see on wikipedia that he also claims to have invented email when he was 14.
Russia Today never fails to entertain, while simultaneously not being entertaining.
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Bubba,
I Googled Dr Pimentel and discovered his research has been on irritable bowel syndrome and bacteria; nothing until now on viruses. Further his website highlights all this research but doesn’t mention the covid19 experiments you quote. And of course even the claimed experiments, whatever they were, are not peer reviewed, published, or even described anywhere for the reader to understand how they were done and how the conclusions were reached. Strange.
I would hold off investing in the company and the concept if I were you.
I Googled Dr Pimentel and discovered his research has been on irritable bowel syndrome and bacteria; nothing until now on viruses. Further his website highlights all this research but doesn’t mention the covid19 experiments you quote. And of course even the claimed experiments, whatever they were, are not peer reviewed, published, or even described anywhere for the reader to understand how they were done and how the conclusions were reached. Strange.
I would hold off investing in the company and the concept if I were you.
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No, still there.
Stop jumping at shadows.
When they started tearing down Dr. Fauci because he "hasn't seen a patient in 20 years" I was done.
These guys have ~5000 tests (of unknown quality) and think they know the shape of the entire pandemic from that.
They run a private clinic. Given the restrictions and/or trepidation of the public, they are probably taking a financial hit.
They have a profit motive for taking the "open up" position.
It's amazing how some people can weave complex world-spanning narratives of malfeasance but the idea that someone might say things to make their wallet a little fatter just completely escapes them.
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Elagabalus
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Not really a bombshell. It's been up for several days. Elon Musk even tweeted about it yesterday.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13069690#post13069690
Even if you don't have at twitter account (I don't!) you can still click on the links to see the conversations.
Johnnie is healthy as a horse and tested positive for covid after breakfast. He then gets run over by a bus after lunch. Johnnie is recorded as another covid death.
Erickson is not the only doctor saying they are being encourage to increase covid death numbers.
Another Dr said in her 30 yrs of writing death certificates, never until now has she been told to 'presume' death by covid.
Montana Physician Dr. Annie Bukacek Discusses How COVID-19 Death Certificates Are Being Manipulated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBw1ynpDANQ
Cosmic Yak
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Johnnie's obviously non-Covid-related death, and subsequent labelling as Covid-related is accepted by the medical personnel, and Johnnie's friends and family.
Johnnie is for some mysterious reason not autopsied.
The doctors and other medical staff involved in this case completely ignore the guidelines they have been issued with, ignore their training and experience, deliberately lie, and cover this whole thing up because.....something to do with Trump.
Bubba, this is desperate posturing. You have no evidence this is actually happening.
Here is the actual CDC guidance document. I suggest you read it this time, so you stop spreading this rubbish.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
Cosmic Yak
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Perhaps, in the light
D ) of Trump's further comments, you could clarify this somewhat?When Trump said he was asking'very, very sarcastic questions', does that sarcasm mean he actually wasn't recommending this light treatment at all?
I know Americans generally struggle with sarcasm, but, as you seem to understand Trump's mind so well, it would help if you could shed some light on this.
Bubba,
Interesting. The only link that the AYTU website cites as describing Dr Pimentel’s work on Coronavirus in more detail is blocked by my browser as a known malware distributor.
Also still silence from Dr Pimental’s end: nothing about Coronavirus on his websites or in a Google search.
BTW he appears to be a successful established researcher on irritable bowel syndrome and gut bacteria. I really wonder about the details of his relationship with AYTU: if he decided to quietly try a flier on Coronavirus (legitimate) and the company might be trying to exploit his very preliminary studies for obvious commercial gain. All IMHO of course.
Interesting. The only link that the AYTU website cites as describing Dr Pimentel’s work on Coronavirus in more detail is blocked by my browser as a known malware distributor.
Also still silence from Dr Pimental’s end: nothing about Coronavirus on his websites or in a Google search.
BTW he appears to be a successful established researcher on irritable bowel syndrome and gut bacteria. I really wonder about the details of his relationship with AYTU: if he decided to quietly try a flier on Coronavirus (legitimate) and the company might be trying to exploit his very preliminary studies for obvious commercial gain. All IMHO of course.
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