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Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV
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Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
I saw some of the scum in the protest were being arrested. I do hope many suffer financial ruin.
Roger Ramjets
Philosopher
If only that was true. People with a 'normal' helping of wits are ill-equipped to identify the seriousness of the situation.
Most people know what a virus is, but beyond that they don't know much. Almost everybody has had a cold or flu many times, and they got over it each time. Why should this time be any different?
The news media is constantly bombarding us with stories about things being wrong. Somewhere an airplane crashes, a school is shot up, a celebrity says something deemed racist. But this 'wrong' doesn't affect our daily lives. Every now and then a virus is detected that 'experts' warn could wipe out the human race. But apart from infecting a few Africans or gays it never comes to much. And why would it? We catch viruses all the time and nobody dies.
Having 'wits' means being able to reason and act quickly. But quick-thinking alone is not enough to clearly identify the threat of a novel virus. To truly appreciate why 'draconian' measures are needed you have to ignore past experience, grab a calculator and do the math - and believe the results. But this is hard when geometric progressions are non-intuitive and the news media is always hyping unlikely scenarios. Even worse, they are sending you mixed messages. Half the 'experts' say that the economy is more important, that we just have to stop hospitals from being overrun, that it only kills the old and sick who would die soon anyway, and the virus mutates very slowly. Even your own President is telling you it will all go away soon - so why worry?
Then they hit you with all kinds of restrictions to stop something they say is extra deadly, when the evidence around you says otherwise. Now it's affecting you personally for no obvious gain. They publish figures showing thousands infected and hundreds dying of this so-called 'novel' virus, but in the 2018-2019 season an estimated 29 million people in the US caught the flu, 380,000 were hospitalized and 28,000 died. And throughout that time nobody was forced to stay at home, wear a mask or get vaccinated. So why is it different this time?
If you already have a reason not to trust authority, the impositions you have to put up with (that even many experts and government officials are saying are over the top) take on a sinister slant. They say it's to keep you safe, but all it's really doing is getting in the way of living a normal life - reason enough alone to oppose the restrictions. But then you start to think what is their real reason for making such a big deal of it? Incompetence? Military experiment gone wrong? Political goals? Funny how it's always liberals who want to take away your freedoms!
For someone using only their wits to identify what's wrong with this pandemic, it's easy to fall into believing conspiracy theories.
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RR: Your points are well expressed. I failed to make it clear that I was speaking more generally than about covid and the ways this plague era has developed. My fault; I should have stuck to the thread.
I hope that you exaggerate the vacuity of the average person. I'm sure you hope so too.
I think that the numbers of outright reality-deniers scuttling around the news is not as great as our fears and our disgust lead us to believe. Sorry I don't have more to offer than that.
I hope that you exaggerate the vacuity of the average person. I'm sure you hope so too.
I think that the numbers of outright reality-deniers scuttling around the news is not as great as our fears and our disgust lead us to believe. Sorry I don't have more to offer than that.
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
Meanwhile, in the real world:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60364821
By the time the police arrived, there were only a few stragglers left: most of the protestors have left.
CE, where are the world-shaking events you promised us? I'm sorry to report that my world view is showing not a trace of erosion. Peaceful protests occur, and then they end: this is not coming as a huge surprise to me, and there doesn't seem to be anything else happening here.
Can we add this to the ever-growing list of your failed predictions, or should we wait just a little longer? If so, how long, and for what? You're that smart, you should easily be able to tell us.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
We had our very own Ottawa-inspired "Freedumb Convoy" of plague rats in Wellington (our Capital). They started off with about 3,000 morons hanging around making idiots of themselves on the grounds of Parliament, but that was whittled down a bit when firstly, the speaker of the house, Trevor Mallard, ordered very loud and terribly annoying music to be played (Barry Manilow and the like). Numbers were further reduced when he ordered all the lawn sprinklers to be turned on and set to maximum "drench" level. That was followed with Mother Nature joining the party by delivering three days of driving rain and winds as Wellington caught the edge of a tropical storm.
There's just a few hundred left, and frankly its time to send in the riot squad and drag these idiots out of there.
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Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
Actually, I disagree. This is exactly what they want- an excuse to scream 'OPPRESSION!' and get more attention. I see no need to create martyrs or give them any justification for their claims and demands. I'd rather they carried on with the sprinklers and the muzak, and just ignored them. The few remaining protestors will get bored and wander off after the next shiny thing in a few days.
Perhaps, in the meantime, some leaflets and/or broadcasts educating them about how democracy works might be useful, too?
I think they also played James Blunt, which he'd probably find amusing
https://twitter.com/JamesBlunt/status/1487364023003844610
SteveAitch
Master Poster
James Blunt offered his help - but it backfired slightly -
"After reading the news, Blunt – who is known for his self-deprecating humour and sharp wit on social media – tweeted: “Give me a shout if this doesn’t work @NZPolice.”
A few hours later, his biggest hit “You’re Beautiful” started playing out from the loudspeakers.
But it only spurred the protestors on who started singing and swaying along to the song before dancing and singing other songs. "
Oops!
That's some..... interesting company you're keeping. Is there any woo you don't believe in?
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
A rather large portion of the "company Bubba keeps", including "friends", exist only in the fascinating alternate world of make believe.
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
That's for my benefit, I think. Bubba is familiar with my posting history, we'd both participated in threads discussing other kinds of BS before he fell down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole.
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
I sometimes suspect that Bubba does not actually believe a substantial portion of the things he posts. More of a performance art sort of thing. A person with all of the weird beliefs and paranoia Bubba professes would have a difficult time functioning in the real world.
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And it's "Off Guardian", a rancid collection of lies and nuttery.
In other news, idiot at USAian prison used inmates for illegal ivermectin tests, lawsuits result.
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
No need for suspicion. Bubba has already admitted he doesn't believe all of his posts.
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
Not at all.
Twas for all the guys n gals in your covid virus vaccination Mass Formation Psychosis hive. You're all in the same boat. A leaky, sinking old tub.
Some victim members of MFP quit the kool aide, although it is difficult for y'all to see it from the inside. Looking back, we see it with Jim Jones, Hitler, and fiery witch hunts.
Make no mistake, a cultish witch hunt it is, that you are a part of.
Dr Malone nailed it, and you.
You're smart, study it. Here, learn characteristics of M F P, explained for your benefit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQChw_Rk1Kk
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It's amazing that a comedian has to be the voice of reason in these times.
The number of otherwise sane, rational, decent people I’ve seen blandly (blindly) repeating the company line and trying to reanimate months dead rhetoric has been absolutely astonishing. I suppose it shouldn’t be, but it’s certainly evidential of what JP is talking about here. Thank you again, JP, for speaking truth so plainly and openly. I hope it continues to open more eyes. What you’re doing and what you’ve done is so incredibly important.
JP is a genius. He has a great way of opening up your mind and teaching all of us to think for ourselves.
I guess I'm old school.
I learned as a child to "Question Authority", and "Question Everything".
My parents taught me to "Think for myself".
I was taught critical thinking, how to spot propaganda narratives, and logic in college. In the military, I was trained to troubleshoot systems to locate problems and figure out workable solutions.
When I hear media telling me what to think, I immediately break down and analyze their reasoning, check their facts, and question the narrative, and the motives. Often I find that the media lies intentionally through omission of facts, and framing.
Many young people are naive enough to believe what they are told by alleged "experts" brought in to sell the narratives. After all, the "experts" know more than everyone else, and don't have a motive to lie, right?... Only the naive, or uninformed believe what they are told unquestioning.
It has warmed my heart to see four provinces of Canada strike down mask and vax mandates. I myself got a couple of jabs but then and now my loyality is 100% for the unvaccinated and especially those who are against vax mandates. You have a right to oversee your health as best as you see fit and as long as America exists, you always will.
The quote, in a comment down the line, from a former CIA Director (William Casey) caused my cup to runneth over. Paraphrasing: we'll know our misinformation campaign was successful when everything the American public believes is false.
A key aspect of the phenomena is that the people they identify as the leaders – the one’s that can solve the problem or issue alone – they will follow that leader(s) regardless of any new information or data. Furthermore, anybody who questions the leader’s narrative are attacked and disregarded.
There are four key components needed for an environment to experience a mass formation psychosis: lack of social bonds or decoupling of societal connections, lack of sense-making (things don’t make sense), free-floating anxiety, and free-floating psychological discontent.
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bruto
Penultimate Amazing
Be not concerned. Nobody benefits. If you took benefit out to the back yard, shot it and buried it, it would be kinder treatment.
That's because the vaccines work, and the pandemic seems to be ending.
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
No no no. It is because of all the hard work Bubba has put into denial of reality.
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