Merged Core-led collapse and explosive demolition

[slojoe]

slojoe,

Just FYI, if you want to post a link, remove the http:\\www part, and just leave the rest, and someone will post it for you.

Welcome to the forum!

Many thanks triforcharity. I had attempted removing the http:\\ to no avail,
but

implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf

seems to work should any one want to copy and paste the URL.

Seven more posts, and this will pass.

Thanks again

 

[ergo]

How do you know these things? Can you read their minds?

Why would I need to read their minds? As professionals, they would be able to put what might seem like unusual occurrences into context. Unlike the average citizen on the street.

What is your problem?

The firefighters were recounting their experience after being asked to recount their experience.

Many of them mentioned smoke. Did even a single one of them say "...but smoke isn't unusual in an office fire"? No?

No, because smoke is typical of building fires. Your argument is moronic.

 

[WildCat]

Why would I need to read their minds? As professionals, they would be able to put what might seem like unusual occurrences into context. Unlike the average citizen on the street.

How many firefighters who were there think there were bombs going off on 9/11?

 

[ergo]

Obviously a few, by the testimonies and video footage. I haven't done a count.

Why do you ask?

 

[beachnut]

How many firefighters who were there think there were bombs going off on 9/11?

Zero. A math term. Math is not used by 911 truth when forming claims on 911 based on nonsense.

Explosives in the core? Silent and zero blast effects. Sounds like fantasy explosives, 911 truth version of fantasy football.

 

[WildCat]

Obviously a few, by the testimonies and video footage. I haven't done a count.

Why do you ask?

I've done a count.

The number is ZERO.

Not a single firefighter on scene that day thinks there were bombs.

None, nada, zilch.

Where does this leave your theory?

 

[ergo]

I've done a count.

The number is ZERO.

Not a single firefighter on scene that day thinks there were bombs.

I guess this is why I have you on Ignore. It would not be possible for you to do a count unless you have contacted all the firefighters who provided testimony as well the ones who appear in news footage and asked them today whether they believe there were bombs or explosives. Something tells me you haven't done this. Back then many of them compared what they saw and heard to bombs and to demolition explosives. It's obvious, by groups like Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, that many still do today.

So your "none, nada, zilch" is just more 9/11 bedunkery.

 

[TexasJack]

If you want to get an idea of what FF's think about bombs on 9/11 and conspiracy kooks in general, you'll find it in this thread. http://www.firehouse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107457

A few even challenged the nuts to go a FDNY station and spew their bomb and explosives nonsense. However, they wouldn't be responsible for the outcome.

As one member wrote when a CTer tried to spew his garbage:

I got a three page pm from this friggin' nut. I haven't read it. I deleted it, after I provided this answer to him:

"Do not send me any more messages. You are out of your mind. What you are doing is despicable and is a complete show of disrespect to the FDNY in particular and the fire service in general. You do not have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. Your entire "body of evidence" is based on an utter lack of understanding of science and human behavior. Your posts and your mindset literally sicken me. The smartest thing you could do is to simply go away. You and your drivel are not wanted here."

 

[beachnut]

I've done a count.

The number is ZERO.

Not a single firefighter on scene that day thinks there were bombs.

None, nada, zilch.

Where does this leave your theory?

I guess this is why I have you on Ignore. ...

Funny stuff.

Silent explosives, no blast effects explosives, a bit with a dog, and an example of something that may be undefined; what was that? Irony?

I have you on Ignore, but... ? Got physics? Any evidence yet?

 

[TruthersLie]

Why would I need to read their minds? As professionals, they would be able to put what might seem like unusual occurrences into context. Unlike the average citizen on the street.

What is your problem?



No, because smoke is typical of building fires. Your argument is moronic.

Were there explosions reported in the caracas tower fire? Yes or no
How about in the Meridian plaza fire? yes or no
How about the one new york plaza fire? yes or no.

What is funny is how you datamine "explosion" and then try to link it to "explosives." Since we have "explosion"s in numerous high rise fires (and in many office fires) were they caused by explosions?

p.s. have you figured out why that building remained standing yet?

 

[TruthersLie]

I guess this is why I have you on Ignore. It would not be possible for you to do a count unless you have contacted all the firefighters who provided testimony as well the ones who appear in news footage and asked them today whether they believe there were bombs or explosives. Something tells me you haven't done this. Back then many of them compared what they saw and heard to bombs and to demolition explosives. It's obvious, by groups like Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, that many still do today.

So your "none, nada, zilch" is just more 9/11 bedunkery.

oopsie.. you stepped into it again. And onto your dick again.
how many fdny are members of the "firefighters for 9/11 truth?"

you might want to check that out.

 

[Justin39640]

I guess this is why I have you on Ignore. It would not be possible for you to do a count unless you have contacted all the firefighters who provided testimony as well the ones who appear in news footage and asked them today whether they believe there were bombs or explosives. Something tells me you haven't done this. Back then many of them compared what they saw and heard to bombs and to demolition explosives. It's obvious, by groups like Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, that many still do today.

So your "none, nada, zilch" is just more 9/11 bedunkery.

Wrong.

I assume know that you have never talked to a single FDNY member. They HATE 9/11 truthers. So do NYPD (I know lots of both). If they actually thought 9/11 was an "Inside Job" you would hear about it. If they thought anything was fishy, you would hear a lot more than just these quotemines from the testimonials.

 

[A W Smith]

no mention of bombs from firefighters

nothing here about bombs at the WTC
http://www.firehouse.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=357&order=desc

 

[Scott Sommers]

ergo, here's the firefighters themselves talking about this
WTC Building 7 Wasn't Demolished
Why don't you join their forum and check it out for yourself? Maybe you can straighten them out about WTC 7. They don't seem to believe any of that stuff you've been saying.

 

[GlennB]

I've done a count.
The number is ZERO.
Not a single firefighter on scene that day thinks there were bombs.
None, nada, zilch.
Where does this leave your theory?

I guess this is why I have you on Ignore.

Magnificent

 

[ergo]

Thanks for the link, people. Looks like that forum goes back to 2002. I'll take a look sometime, especially at the older threads. I can see already that questions were being asked even back then, when it was very unpopular and considered extremely unpatriotic to question any of it. We can see that opinion has never been uniform on why the buildings fell. But to think that that forum, like any other, would not have opinion pushers on it would be naive. I'd be interested to see how opinion changes over the years, and what happens to the discussion.

There are firefighters who don't believe in CD. There are firefighters who do. And there are firefighters who simply don't believe the official explanation. What part of this don't you get?

None of this changes what firefighters themselves reported having seen and heard that day. Get over it.

 

[triforcharity]

I guess this is why I have you on Ignore. It would not be possible for you to do a count unless you have contacted all the firefighters who provided testimony as well the ones who appear in news footage and asked them today whether they believe there were bombs or explosives. Something tells me you haven't done this. Back then many of them compared what they saw and heard to bombs and to demolition explosives. It's obvious, by groups like Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, that many still do today.

So your "none, nada, zilch" is just more 9/11 bedunkery.

There is not a single person who was there on 9/11, that has anything to do with FF4911T. Erik Lawyer's claims, as I have said before, are horse****.

Please tell me who from FDNY who was on duty that day, has signed their silly petition.

Why did you ignore my post here?

I've addresses each and every one of your cockamamy claims, but yet, you conveniently ignored it? I wonder why.........

 

[ergo]

Magnificent

It only takes an ********* **** to mess up what the firefighters said.

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Edited, breach of rule 0, rule 12.

 

[triforcharity]

It only takes an ********* ***** to mess up what the firefighters said.

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Moderated content removed.

I couldn't agree more!! Nice job stepping into a pile of fail again!!! WOOT!!

 

[WildCat]

I guess this is why I have you on Ignore.

And yet here you are, responding to my post. I guess I'm on your pretend ignore list.

It would not be possible for you to do a count

Sure it is. Counting to zero is so easy even a truther could do it.

unless you have contacted all the firefighters who provided testimony as well the ones who appear in news footage and asked them today whether they believe there were bombs or explosives. Something tells me you haven't done this. Back then many of them compared what they saw and heard to bombs and to demolition explosives. It's obvious, by groups like Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, that many still do today.

So your "none, nada, zilch" is just more 9/11 bedunkery.

Nope. There's not a single fiefighter on scene that day who thinks there were bombs. But what do they know? They were actually there, while you have low-res youtube videos to dissect.