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Corbyn's days (very) numbered?
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P.J. Denyer
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Well that's going to endear him to the rank and file.
Ten years after enactment.. So barring an early general election 2030 absolute minimum. For those of us who buy used and drive our vehicles until they fall apart it could be another decade before we give up the petrol engine. Or more, my household count (cars and motorcycles) is 5, years of manufacture 2006, 2006, 2005, 1994, 1992.
I'm a petrol head, my instinctive reaction is against this but as a spur to further development and adoption of the technology particually in terms of affordability, maybe a deadline would be a good thing and with the current state of the tech and uptake a decade doesn't seem ridiculous to me. You're right about popularity, but people bitched about removing lead from petrol too. I think the worst thing about it as an aspirational policy is that it will generate "Corbyn will ban YOUR car" headlines rather than actual discussion.
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Sure. And I'm a Labour man. But why not announce it as a target an aspirational target without dat3>
P.J. Denyer
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What data do you think should have been announced with it?
And yet doctors are calling for a ban on diesel cars in London. I have a bike, but there's a limit to what even I can carry on it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38274792
P.J. Denyer
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Norway are planning to ban the sale of fossil fuel cars within a decade and the Dutch Labour Party has a similar policy.
I moved house by motorbike a few times (admittedly I didn't own that much at the time) and the largest single parcel I moved when I was a despatch rider was an industrial filter, four foot square by two foot. But I don't see the relevance, so far as I am aware no-one is proposing banking four wheelers.
I moved house by motorbike a few times (admittedly I didn't own that much at the time) and the largest single parcel I moved when I was a despatch rider was an industrial filter, four foot square by two foot. But I don't see the relevance, so far as I am aware no-one is proposing banking four wheelers.
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If only there were some way electricity could be used to power vehicles...
P.J. Denyer
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Sorry "banning"
P.J. Denyer
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I think we're already far beyond what Thatcher envisioned (she was against privatisation of the Post Office for example.
Oh, I'm sure they will increase in popularity, but I see plug hybrids or just hybrids still being a big part of the make up of traffic for many years. If I want to take the family to Cornwall for a holiday, I can't do it in a pure electric car in day, but I can in a fossil fuel car.
where does the electricity come from? I know someone with a Tesla and he thinks he is saving the planet. Most of the electricity here comes from coal or gas fired power stations.
P.J. Denyer
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You don't think that's likely to change within the ten to thirteen year minimum time frame being proposed?
P.J. Denyer
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Apparently this (the car suggestion) is part of the larger energy policy aimed at substantial reductions in carbon emissions. The answer is probably in the full text.
Yes but as and when renewable sources grow in volume, that is where the power for the cars will increasingly come from. Cars are good at being charged off peak, so making best use of intermittent sources. Electric cars are a very important part of the development of a renewable energy economy.
Here in Scotland
At the start of 2016, there was 8,055 megawatts (MW) of installed renewable electricity capacity in Scotland. Renewable electricity generation in Scotland was 21,983 GWh in 2015, up 15.2% on 2014. 57.7 per cent of Scotland's electricity came from renewables in 2015.
The Atheist
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In the UK, green & nuclear energy accounts for almost half the electricity production.
The UK is not one of the states or territories of Australia.
But in Australia as in Scotland the conditions I describe apply in exactly the same way. As and when the amount of renewable energy increases, then electric cars will be an efficient way of using it, so their introduction is an important part of the development of a renewable energy economy. That is true everywhere.
Almost half? My point stands.
Look, I'm a advocate of 100% renewal energy and electric cars. However, Corbyn's grandstanding will not help, given his long history of loony ideas.
Your #1351 indicates the contrary. Owners of these vehicles think they're "saving the planet", presumably in your view mistakenly. Corbyn has "loony ideas", presumably about renewable energy.
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AFAIK Corbyn is also anti-nuclear energy - he's against the building of new nuclear power stations.
That means that his "renewables" strategy currently accounts for under 25 % of UK demand and does very little to address the "baseload problem".
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