For twenty years? And obviously things are getting worse, rather than better - in the Don's opinion at least.
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Corbyn's days (very) numbered?
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MarkCorrigan
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Not all of them. I'm labour and I'm voting Smith.
I'm not in that party any more, my membership ran from 1985 to 2006 (although I'd been attending constituency Labour Party meetings from the late '70s - they were held in parents' house).
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They're also a lot more right-wing and Tory-voting than the Labour Party members.
angrysoba
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May I ask if you're in any party at the present time? I'm not, and I don't feel encouraged by recent events to become a member of one.
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That's the same thing.
For some people it seems to be. Hence the problem.
I will never be an active member of any political party ever again - too soul destroying. That didn't stop me paying out £25
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Francesca R
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You will probably be eligible for a refund in another self-inflicted laceration Labour has performed on itself.
Hey when you are on a winning streak why stop? Can't believe they are going to throw money away on yet more unnecessary legal fees.
All that money has gone to their heads!
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The only union so far to ballot its members, GMB, endorses Smith after members back him 60:40 over Corbyn. That's pretty much in line with the July poll showing 63% of trade union members think Corbyn is performing badly.
A response from the Corbyn team:
LOL. Yes, surely the ability to attract large crowds to rallies should've featured in there somewhere (the question, incidentally, was "Who do you think is best placed to lead the Labour party to a general election victory and serve as prime minister?" So you can see why Corbyn's team felt it put him at a disadvantage).
Meanwhile, Unite's Len McCluskey takes "one member, one vote" literally, and endorses Corbyn despite the above poll showing 66% of Unite members think Corbyn is doing badly.
A response from the Corbyn team:
LOL. Yes, surely the ability to attract large crowds to rallies should've featured in there somewhere (the question, incidentally, was "Who do you think is best placed to lead the Labour party to a general election victory and serve as prime minister?" So you can see why Corbyn's team felt it put him at a disadvantage).
Meanwhile, Unite's Len McCluskey takes "one member, one vote" literally, and endorses Corbyn despite the above poll showing 66% of Unite members think Corbyn is doing badly.
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Well, that makes at least two of us...
dudalb
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That is the real issue;Corbyn is doing a crappy job as Party Head.
Yes, I have seen it posted on Facebook as a badge of honour that 80% of his closest colleagues think that he's so rubbish that they'd rather a damaging internal election rather than him being ineffectual.
They also say that Corbyn wasn't given a chance - although I am unsure what that has to do with political reality.
Henri McPhee
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I remember reading a book once by George Bernard Shaw, in which he remarked that it's only about one hundred people in the country who are up to the job of being prime minister. The problem, as I see it, is that none of that one hundred now seem to be politicians, even though there is quite a bit of mediocre business leadership, and Oxbridge types, going into politics. It's the privately educated who are on the remuneration committees, and they don't like grammar school boys. Bright kids from comprehensive schools are held back in order to promote most of the other bit dim kids at the comprehensive schools.
All that mixed ability and no streaming theory is a load of bollocks. It can lead to becoming a backward country with an inefficient civil service.
Just being a woman doesn't necessarily make you a good prime minister. I don't think anybody in the Labour party is up to the job either. You need wide and practical experience and not suffer from want of judgment. What the Institute of Fiscal Studies says isn't scientific fact.
All that mixed ability and no streaming theory is a load of bollocks. It can lead to becoming a backward country with an inefficient civil service.
Just being a woman doesn't necessarily make you a good prime minister. I don't think anybody in the Labour party is up to the job either. You need wide and practical experience and not suffer from want of judgment. What the Institute of Fiscal Studies says isn't scientific fact.
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A pretty sad indictment of current politics if the answer to a leader being bullied by the media is to simply get rid of him and get someone in that the media like a bit better.
Why not just let the Sun appoint all our politicians?
Francesca R
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Let's have more politicians suing Private Eye and others for defamation and the return of dozen-million damages, that'll learn that pesky fourth estate. They can go back to reporting on celebrities. As long as the celebs don't sue as well.
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Absolutely. If you look at what I responded to, the argument was that it didn't matter that someone wasn't given a chance or treated unfairly. We should just accept that 'reality' and accept it.
So if the collective media decide that Corbyn eats babies it doesn't matter whether its true or not, the Labour Party should simply accept it and get rid of him and find a candidate they will accept.
It's a pretty undemocratic position to argue. Do you agree with it?