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Stout said:
Nooooooooooooo

Not Sarkesian too,, say it isn't so.

Avicenna, Hensley, Sarkesian....Am I starting to notice a pattern of liberating other people's content for profit or am I hatching a conspiracy theory ?

This requires more time...more thought.
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Check your privilege and stop mansplaining.
 
Stout said:
Nooooooooooooo

Not Sarkesian too,, say it isn't so.

Avicenna, Hensley, Sarkesian....Am I starting to notice a pattern of liberating other people's content for profit or am I hatching a conspiracy theory ?

This requires more time...more thought.
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No conspiracy necessary, just lack of respect for others, lack of concern for others and their property and overinflated sense of self and entitlement.
 
spin0 said:
Looks like the Blockbot has some serious legal issues including possible libel, running a possibly illegal blacklist (leading to potential legal issues with the Gamejobsbot using such blacklists), and possibly breaking the UK data protection law:
BlockBot Busted? Front Page Rewrite and a Resignation for a Block Bot Team in Disarray

The Blockbot team claiming that the data is in the US probably does not make them immune to the legal issues in the UK (and also probably not in the EU): Aggravating Ignorance

If you have been entered to the blockbot list you can file a complaint, and you can do so even if you do not live in the UK:
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Oh, I am so going to check this out. I am still listed as blockbot level 2 number 3161. Giving that they have 3500+ at level 1 and 4000+ at level 2, some heads could start exploding if just a small percentage of individuals started filing complaints.

The worm is going to start to turn on this one ;)
 
Stout said:
In order to give her Kickstarter page a modern edgy urban look, she seems to have somehow acquired and used an image that doesn't belong to her. The artist is, understandably, rather miffed about this.

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I've noticed that the SJW mindset doesn't really care about justice for theft as long as they're the ones doing the stealing.

Interesting that she's planning on taking pictures of people and possibly shops. Hope she's planning on getting model releases for the people that she's focusing on with her photography, and commercial releases for any shops that she shoots pictures of. Or is requiring photographers to actually ensure that their subjects clearly consent to being photographed too oppressive?
 
luchog said:
I've noticed that the SJW mindset doesn't really care about justice for theft as long as they're the ones doing the stealing.
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Well, I'm not sure how much 'social justice' has to do with actual justice in the first place when looking at the behavior of people subscribing to that ideology. Seems they're very quick to judge and label people at first glance, and then use and spread that label and include it in their blacklists however irrational that is.
 
luchog said:
Interesting that she's planning on taking pictures of people and possibly shops. Hope she's planning on getting model releases for the people that she's focusing on with her photography, and commercial releases for any shops that she shoots pictures of. Or is requiring photographers to actually ensure that their subjects clearly consent to being photographed too oppressive?
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Well, it's not required to get a model release, depending on what you plan to do with the photo.

In the US, you are allowed to sell a recognizable photo of someone on the street as a work of art. What you are not allowed to do is to sell it for commercial photography — that is to say, photos being used to sell a product. This would prevent the sale of photos of a recognizable person to (let’s say) a stock photo service, but not as a work of art, or photojournalistic purposes.

Relevant reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nussenzweig_v._DiCorcia
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Stout said:
It's been a while since we've had some lulz from the warrior contingent in our S/A camp so let's take a wee glimpse into the current antics of one of our more attention hungry members, Ms. Melody Hensley.

Ms. Hensley has decided to branch out, to finally get out of her bed and return to some semblance of active living by starting a blog to detail fashion on the streets of DC. Slight hitch though, she needs a high end camera to take her shots and doesn't have the disposable income to finance her new hobby. What's an activist to do when faced with such dire limitations on her aspirations ? Why, ebeg her fellow warriors for the funds, of course.

Slight problem though.

In order to give her Kickstarter page a modern edgy urban look, she seems to have somehow acquired and used an image that doesn't belong to her. The artist is, understandably, rather miffed about this.

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Her kickstarter is quite interesting. The math on her backers does not add up.

She appears to have 17 backers by the pledge level numbers, but the number listed for total is 22. So she has 5 backers not accounted for on the page.

Pledge levels are lowish, the highest one she has listed backers for is $100 or more and that has only 3 backers. She has levels for $500 and $1,000 but no listed backers and yet she has collected $10,770?

There appears to be an audit issue here at the least.
 
Kochanski said:
Oh, I am so going to check this out. I am still listed as blockbot level 2 number 3161. Giving that they have 3500+ at level 1 and 4000+ at level 2, some heads could start exploding if just a small percentage of individuals started filing complaints.
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By all means do that and tell others to do the same. And it's relevant to note that the right to make a complaint is not limited to UK residents/citizens.

It is also of interest that the derivative of the Blockbot blacklist and software has been adopted for use by GG Autoblocker which is run by Randi Harper, a social media harasser who now has established her own anti-harassment crowdfunding project to collect money:
The Hidden Face of Hypocrisy: Randi Harper, Part 2, and Part 3.
(yeah, the pile of evidence really does warrant a three-part post and it's not even all of it)

For EU residents/citizens it is worth of note that the twitter Gamejobsbot uses the GG Autoblocker list as an blacklist to deny job opportunities from potential seekers. Such blacklists are illegal in the EU and the Gamejobsbot is run by a German person. If I was on any such list I would rise a stink against all the instances of using such blacklists including legal action in Germany.

Personally, the worst part for me has been learning that the blacklist and related bot is being run by an EFF employee. For many years the Electronic Freedom Foundation represented to me what it says in it's name: freedom. Now that idea has been tarnished. How little my contributions have been in the past I will not commit any more in the future until the EFF clarifies its position on the issue of blacklisting people.
 
Stout said:
Ms. Hensley has decided to branch out, to finally get out of her bed and return to some semblance of active living by starting a blog to detail fashion on the streets of DC.
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Prior art: http://www.thesartorialist.com/

Slight hitch though, she needs a high end camera to take her shots and doesn't have the disposable income to finance her new hobby.
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Of course.
 
zooterkin said:
Well, it's not required to get a model release, depending on what you plan to do with the photo.
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Any commercial use is required to have a release for all clearly identifiable individuals who form a significant part of the subject of the image. Depending on the jurisdiction, there may be other restrictions based on on how the images are used, and what type of images they are. Even some non-commercial uses are restricted. The statements on that link are factually wrong; and one case is hardly a sufficient to base a policy on, considering the wide disparity in rulings on similar issue in various jurisdictions. Being an artist who used to specialize in street photography, I can say from experience that consent and use of street images is a complicated issue, and one it is easy to fall foul of.

In any case, that link doesn't apply because 1) the Kickstarter page clearly indicates that this is for commercial use; and 2) that these are going to be effectively portraits, not street shots.

I emailed her using the Kickstarter link to inquire about the legal issues involved in her work, and if they had been addressed. My email:

Hi,

I am considering contributing to this project. However, as a photographer myself, and being aware of the legal issues surrounding such a project; I wanted to inquire as to how you're going to manage the issue of subject consent, and whether you will be obtaining legal model releases. I am concerned about this, as there already appears to have been an issue with unauthorized use of another person's artwork on your Kickstarter page; and I am unwilling to involve myself in a project where clear and explicit consent for subjects and appropriate compensation for artists are not handled ethically and legally.

Thank you for your time,
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Her response:
Hi [deleted],

Once I received noticed that the image that was in use was not creative commons it was quickly changed.

All models will be 18 years are older. I have an adult talent release. I have used a similar one in the past. It is an updated version made by a lawyer and covers every possible liability.

Best regards,

Melody
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Needless to say, this didn't really address all of my concerns, or all of the issues involved. And she certainly did not seem to be at all apologetic about using someone else's artwork without even bothering to check to see if it was public domain first (nor did she address the use of someone else's artwork to promote her own project). The current image on the site is not credited, which leads me to have concerns about that as well. She also said nothing about compensation, which also gives me concerns about the ethics, if not the legality, of this project.

I won't be contributing.
 
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Y'all are going to try and sue people because you got blocked on Twitter?

Good luck with that. :D
 
Kochanski said:
Her kickstarter is quite interesting. The math on her backers does not add up.

She appears to have 17 backers by the pledge level numbers, but the number listed for total is 22. So she has 5 backers not accounted for on the page.

Pledge levels are lowish, the highest one she has listed backers for is $100 or more and that has only 3 backers. She has levels for $500 and $1,000 but no listed backers and yet she has collected $10,770?

There appears to be an audit issue here at the least.
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I was wondering about that too.

Oh wait, it's now down to $860 with yet another cover picture.
 
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Stout said:
I was wondering about that too.

Oh wait, it's now down to $860 with yet another cover picture.
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Math still doesn't work, shows 27 donors and only 19 entries at pledge levels. How much you want to bet the $10,000 is from family member and was taken down so that she can get more bucks from others. Funding level is $1,500. Highly unlikely even for the SJW set that they will donate to something that is fully funded beyond the amount requested.
 
Kochanski said:
Math still doesn't work, shows 27 donors and only 19 entries at pledge levels. How much you want to bet the $10,000 is from family member and was taken down so that she can get more bucks from others. Funding level is $1,500. Highly unlikely even for the SJW set that they will donate to something that is fully funded beyond the amount requested.
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I don't know how Kickstarter works but if I was a trolling man, I might just consider making a phony donation on a phony credit card, just to see what would happen.
 
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