MarkCorrigan
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Is this a conversation that's actually ever happened?
Yes. I've had it twice, both times at university, oddly enough.
Not the exact words obviously, but the sentiment behind them.
If one only objects to factory farms then one could try to continue eating meat but simply try to avoid factory farm sourced meat, I agree. But in most situations this would mean not eating meat as a dinner guest,
Aside from getting a big bag of cheap mince for thrown together meals, I don't know many people who don't buy from at the very least quality assured supermarket farms that provide provenance. I'm not even talking about the most upmarket supermarkets either, even ASDA (a member of the Wal*Mart family as it's obnoxiously termed) has this for all of it's things like chicken breasts and steaks. They may not come from super high quality small farms like the one I work with, but nor do they come from "pack 2000 pigs in a small pen and force feed them slurry" farms.
not eating meat at restaurants
Maybe it's just e, but apart from the odd visit to Subway, most restaurants I know have their butcher mentioned somewhere on the menu, even in eating pubs I go to. When I say butcher, I mean butcher too, not just El Cheapo buy it by the ton places. For instance the pub closest to me, now a steak and ale house, proudly proclaims it buys all it's meat from a local butcher well known for sourcing all of his meat from the local mid-size farms.
I live right out in the sticks, surrounded by farms and I can't think of any that aren't in the same vein as the one I work at. I could well be wrong, and I don't disagree that factory farms exist even in the UK, but I can't think of any near to me. I even know two of the farmers personally.
As I mentioned above, even our Wal*Mart owned supermarket provides provenance for the meat it sells apart from the super cheap stuff. Even the sausages are given a single farm of origin, unless you're buying the super cheap value brand. We're hardly talking Whole Foods here.and not buying meat from stores
If you are on a very restricted budget, or consider McDonalds a restaurant then yeah, I suppose, but my family are hardly rich and if I went to our fridges and freezers right now, I can only think of maybe one bag of sausages (Richmond brand Irish sausages) that won't have the name of the farm and farmer that the meat came from on the packaging. I remember from my time in the US that it's hell to work out where your supermarket produce came from outside of places like Whole Foods and the like, but we do it here.unless one knows exactly where it came from. I can see why one might consider it simpler to just go vegetarian.
There are others who object to both factory farm and non-factory farm sourced meat. Many people who feel this way would agree that factory farms are worse than other types of animal farming, but still not be okay with either.
Which I mentioned already, so I don't understand why you felt the need to mention this.
