Continuation The Electric Comet Theory Boogaloo (Part 2)

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BazBear said:
No matter how many pairs, it would seem most EU proponents are unable to find them with both hands.
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He who laughs last ... :p

Preview with Dr. Donald Scott: Cosmic Power Lines | EU2015
Published on 25 May 2015
One of the great pioneers of the Electric Universe and plasma cosmology is Dr. Donald E. Scott, retired professor of electrical engineering and author of the book, The Electric Sky. Dr. Scott has offered profound theoretical insights into the nature of the Sun and the electrical circuitry that drives all stars and galaxies. At the forthcoming EU2015 Conference: Paths of Discovery, June 25 - 29, Phoenix, Arizona, Dr. Scott will present compelling new evidence that electric currents from the Sun, called Birkeland currents, are the cause of extreme atmospheric phenomena at the poles of several planets. Today, Dr. Scott provides a brief introduction and overview of his talk.
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Birkeland Currents: A Force-Free Field-Aligned Model
Donald E. Scott Department of Electrical Engineering (Retired), University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA, USA.
e-mail: [email protected]

Abstract
The fundamental vector calculus definition of a force-free, field-aligned current in space is expanded in cylindrical coordinates to directly obtain the Bessel partial differential equation that specifies the magnetic field created by such a current. This result is often called the Lundquist solution. A simple but detailed derivation is included here. The physical properties of the resulting intricate magnetic field structure are described. The cause of its characteristic counter-rotation and counter-flows are identified. The describing equations are put into state-variable form and a step-wise approximation is applied. This solution reveals the primary effect of the force-free parameter, α, as being a scale factor of radial distance. We show that: 1) both the axial and azimuthal magnetic and current density components cyclically reverse their directions with radial distance from the central axis of the current; 2) the magnetic field extends farther from the central axis within a force-free field than it would if produced by a current in a long straight conductor. The total magnetic field magnitude and current density are shown to vary inversely as the square root of r. For larger, outside the plasma, the azimuthal magnetic field is shown to vary as 1/r. These results are shown to be consistent with laboratory and astronomical observations.
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Full PDF HERE
 
The delusions and lies of Dr. Donald E. Scott in his Birkeland current paper

Haig said:
He who laughs last ... :p
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He who spams a thread with an irrelevant crackpot video and link will get a laughing dog, Haig
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Dr. Donald E. Scott is an ignorant and deluded EU proponent who has fallen into the nest of neo-Velikovsky delusions at Thunderbolts and cannot escape. That he has a recent paper in the really bad Progress in Physics journal is not a surprise. The paper itself is starts with a possibly valid exploration of the mathematics of Birkeland currents. But then the lies and delusions begin:
* Figure 7: The hexagonal feature in Saturn's north pole is a consequence of the flow of Saturn's atmosphere - gas not plasma.
Scott clearly labels the image of the feature and then lies about it being plasma with an associated Birkeland current :eek:
* Figure 8: This is attributed to "A.L. Peratt, from Characteristics of a High-Current, Z-Pinch Aurora As Recorded in Antiquity, Part II ...".
The delusional part is that Birkeland currents can be seen by eye and so "recorded in antiquity". Even in modern times the confirmation of the existence of Birkeland currents needed spacecraft to enter them to actually detect them! So comparing ancient observations possibly of aurora to "dense plasma focus Birkeland Current" is delusional.
I suspect that A.L. Peratt is lying about a Birkeland current. His Fig 57 is electric discharges in one of Birkeland's terrella. His Fig. 58 is captioned "Pattern of a 90-kA particle beam from a thin circular cathode as recorded on a steel witness plate. The periodicity of the beam filaments (white dots) is 56.". None of his references are to Birkeland current in dense plasma. So the lie seems to be that A.L. Peratt is stating that plasma filaments are Birkeland currents.
* Figure 9: A repeat of the Saturn's north pole lie.
* Figure 10: A delusion about the Hourglass (or Butterfly) planetary nebula, M2-9, having a z pinch with double layers with gibberish about "visible glow and arc modes."!
 
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Reality Check said:
He who spams a thread with an irrelevant crackpot video and link will get a laughing dog, Haig
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Does that include NASA ?

I wonder how long it will be before they come up with their own "model" of The Electric Comet ? ;)

This from NASA last year ...

New NASA Model Gives Glimpse into the Invisible World of Electric Asteroids
Zimmerman and his team plan to apply the model to see if the electrical activity around asteroids presents any potential hazards to human explorers.
"For example, understanding the electrical environment around an asteroid could help identify locations where astronauts can safely make first contact with the object," said co-author William Farrell of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. "If an astronaut is tethered to a spacecraft that is in sunlight and positively charged, and touches a negatively charged asteroid surface in shadow, there could be an unexpected current flow between the two systems upon contact. We simply can't speculate on the nature of that current without this model."
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Getting closer to the REAL DEAL eh? RC :dl:
 
Haig said:
Does that include NASA ?
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It includes your delusions about that NASA release, that Scott is anything but a rather deluded crank (as shown by your citation) and that comets are rocks, Haig.
Still in total denial about the REAL SCIENCE that shows that comets are not rock, Haig? :dl:

Here we have irrelevant but interesting science about what we have known for decades - the solar wind charges up objects. We see this for spacecraft. So do we have to worry about this for astronauts visiting asteroids? Better computer models have included the solar wind effects: New NASA Model Gives Glimpse into the Invisible World of Electric Asteroids
 
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Haig said:
I disagree with you there :)
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Spamming the thread again with links to the deluded EU ideas about the Sun and universe just shows again that you cannot recognize delusion, Haig.
The deluded and wrong Electric Comets makes the Electric Sun deluded and invalid which makes the Electric Universe deluded and wrong.

Electric comets still do not exist :jaw-dropp!
For example: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos etc.
We must thank Haig again for pointing out so much crackpottery!

And thank you also for pointing out how deluded an Electric Sun author is:
28 May 2015 Haig: The delusions and lies of the Electric Sun author Dr. Donald E. Scott in his Birkeland current paper.


Then there is stupidity of looking for empirical evidence about the Sun from an experiment that has nothing to do with the real Sun :jaw-dropp!
Will we see neutrinos emitted in SAFIRE, Haig?
 
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Haig said:
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Published on 25 May 2015
One of the great pioneers of the Electric Universe and plasma cosmology is Dr. Donald E. Scott, retired professor of electrical engineering and author of the book, The Electric Sky." [SNIP]


"When I first began examining The Electric Sky, I considered it a diversion from my creationism debunking efforts. Now I’m not so sure. While it is not the Christian/Judaism/Islamic version of creationism, much of Scott's model hides connections behind 'invisible' dark currents. These 'Dark Currents' seem to fulfill in Scott's ‘theology’ the role of God in creationist claims as a form
of invisible agent. If there were a large modern religion based around Thor or Zeus, their creationism would probably contain many of the concepts of the Electric Universe. The Electric Sky is creationism for the Norse or Greco-Roman pantheon of gods. This notion is further reinforced by the imagery used on the many web sites advocating the Electric Universe model."

From Tom Bridgman's debunking of Scott's laughable book. Available here:
https://crankastronomy.org/anomalies/ElectricSky_20080322.pdf
 
Haig said:
I disagree with you there :)


Electric Comets requires an Electric Sun requires an Electric Universe

With more empirical science coming soon for an Electric Sun ...

SAFIRE—The Documentary (trailer)
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So far all EU 'evidence' is based upon utterly misinterpreting mythology, experimentally unsupported or unsound self published papers and youtube videos.

Whereas mainstream understanding of electricity, which immediately rules out most of EU's 'theories', literally powers every single device in the world.

It's easy to convince people though. The EU universe should allow the currents to and from the sun to be tapped. Providing unlimited free energy to the world. Build a generator based upon the principles and show it works.

In the meantime in the real universe extensive measurements show that the comet dawn is orbiting has NO magnetic charge.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
So far all EU 'evidence' is based upon utterly misinterpreting mythology, experimentally unsupported or unsound self published papers and youtube videos.

Whereas mainstream understanding of electricity, which immediately rules out most of EU's 'theories', literally powers every single device in the world.

It's easy to convince people though. The EU universe should allow the currents to and from the sun to be tapped. Providing unlimited free energy to the world. Build a generator based upon the principles and show it works.

In the meantime in the real universe extensive measurements show that the comet dawn is orbiting has NO magnetic charge.
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Psst... Rosetta, not Dawn. I've caught myself almost making that mistake too. It's such a busy year for our robotic explorers :)
 
The Electric Sky. Dr. Scott has offered profound theoretical insights into the nature of the Sun and the electrical circuitry that drives all stars and galaxies.
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Hahahaha, you have got to love a good joke!
 
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for those interested in real cometary plasma physics

Observation of a New Type of Low Frequency Waves at Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko" http://arxiv.org/abs/1505.06068 The "singing comet" observations and explanation of the mechanism generating these waves. This is cometary plasma physics in a whole new environment which has not been seen by any other cometary mission.
 
tusenfem said:
for those interested in real cometary plasma physics

Observation of a New Type of Low Frequency Waves at Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko" http://arxiv.org/abs/1505.06068 The "singing comet" observations and explanation of the mechanism generating these waves. This is cometary plasma physics in a whole new environment which has not been seen by any other cometary mission.
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Thanks for that reminder tusenfem ;)

Is the "singing comet" 67P linked in any way to the "singing Sun" or the "singing Earth" ?

Wonder why they all sing ? :D
 
Haig said:
Thanks for that reminder tusenfem

Is the "singing comet" 67P linked in any way to the "singing Sun" or the "singing Earth" ?

Wonder why they all sing ?
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No, if you would read the paper you would see the "singing comet" is a cross field current instability, whereas the "singing sun" is by P-mode (sound) waves and the "singing earth" seems to be a resonance with G-mode waves.

They're all singing because they are merry and gay.
 
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