Continuation Part II - Cold Fusion Claims

[The Moog]

And on it goes

Its been a while but it seems this is still going on.
Rossi Expects E-Cat Production Lines to be Operating by End of November

In a recent comment, when asked when he expected the first E-Cat products to be delivered to customers, Andrea Rossi stated “Within December, I think”.

It will be interesting to see if he manages to meet this target.

 

[Dancing David]

Its a race between him and Mills with the hydrinos!

 

[Kid Eager]

He didn’t say which December...

 

[Red Baron Farms]

oops I guess this goes here rather than the Mills thread
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/318719?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

 

[3point14]

oops I guess this goes here rather than the Mills thread
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/318719?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

Does the little popup header drive anyone but me absolutely mental?

 

[wea]

oops I guess this goes here rather than the Mills thread
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/318719?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

" ...we committed ourselves to disrupt at least two fields — the energy market and the way people move themselves and goods on large distances..."

LMAO

will they first dismiss entropy or build the "teleporter"?

If anything after the first paragraph is worth reading, please advice.

ETA: related thread

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=12404160#post12404160

 

[Pixel42]

I'm sure there's a cold fusion thread but I can't search for it so I'm putting this here:

Cold fusion may be a viable energy alternative to end reliance on fossil fuels | Letters

Letters: A number of companies have been able to make these low-energy nuclear reactions work reliably, write Brian Josephson, David J Nagel, Alan Smith, Dr Jean-Paul Biberian and Yasuhiro Iwamura

www.theguardian.com

Very surprised to see this in today's Guardian, linked to from the home page. Are there really still people working on this? I thought it was dead and buried.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I'm sure there's a cold fusion thread but I can't search for it so I'm putting this here:

Cold fusion may be a viable energy alternative to end reliance on fossil fuels | Letters

Letters: A number of companies have been able to make these low-energy nuclear reactions work reliably, write Brian Josephson, David J Nagel, Alan Smith, Dr Jean-Paul Biberian and Yasuhiro Iwamura

www.theguardian.com

Very surprised to see this in today's Guardian, linked to from the home page. Are there really still people working on this? I thought it was dead and buried.

Looking at the Wikipedia entry I can't see any reference to an article from less than 8 years ago but I suppose there may be some stealth research going on somewhere.

Cold fusion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[arthwollipot]

I just looked up the lead author of the Guardian article, and found this.

Brian David Josephson (born 4 January 1940) is a Welsh physicist and is a professor emeritus of physics at the University of Cambridge.[3] Best known for his pioneering work on superconductivity and quantum tunnelling, he shared the 1973 Nobel Prize in Physics with Leo Esaki and Ivar Giaever for his discovery of the Josephson effect, made in 1962 when he was a 22 year-old PhD student at Cambridge.

Josephson has spent his academic career as a member of the Theory of Condensed Matter group at Cambridge's Cavendish Laboratory. He has been a fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge since 1962, and served as professor of physics from 1974 until 2007,

In the early 1970s, Josephson took up transcendental meditation and turned his attention to issues outside the boundaries of mainstream science. He set up the Mind–Matter Unification Project at Cavendish to explore the idea of intelligence in nature, the relationship between quantum mechanics and consciousness, and the synthesis of science and Eastern mysticism, broadly known as quantum mysticism.[6] He has expressed support for topics such as parapsychology, water memory and cold fusion, which has made him a focus of criticism from fellow scientists.

Make sure you click to expand that - the third paragraph is very interesting.

Brian Josephson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[shemp]

He's a loony. A brilliant loony, but a loony nonetheless.

 

[Wudang]

He claims that research isn’t being published as journal editors dismiss cold fusion as disproved but fails to explain why he can’t for example publish it on his department’s website or somewhere.
One step away from “do your own research “.

 

[catsmate]

I just looked up the lead author of the Guardian article, and found this.



Make sure you click to expand that - the third paragraph is very interesting.

Brian Josephson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes he's a classic case of 'Nobel disease's, and a multi-disciplinary crank.
He believes in a range of nonsense, water memory, homepathy, cold (as opposed to cool) fusion, psychic abilities and various types of paranormal drive.

He's a loony. A brilliant loony, but a loony nonetheless.

A once brilliant loony.

 

[JayUtah]

Are there really still people working on this? I thought it was dead and buried.

I attended and taught at the university that hosted Pons and Fleischmann. I've hired several people from that physics department. We don't talk about it.

 

[catsmate]

I emailed The Guardian with regard to his nonsense.

We're covered Josephson. Nagel is a former engineer who's been a cold fusion true believer for years. Smith was a lab tech, bacteriology, who is another cold fusion believer and runs a pseudo-journal.
Biberian worked with Fleischmann and Pons back in Ye Olde Days of cold fusion.
And finally, Yasuhiro Iwamura is another engineer (the Salem Hypothesis again) is another crank who's been making unrepeatable claims about cold fusion for many years.

 

[catsmate]

I attended and taught at the university that hosted Pons and Fleischmann. I've hired several people from that physics department. We don't talk about it.

Also there have been experiments in fields such as muon catalysed fusion, sometimes referred to as cool fusion, which is legitimate, if unproductive, field of research.

 

[jonesdave116]

I just looked up the lead author of the Guardian article, and found this.



Make sure you click to expand that - the third paragraph is very interesting.

Brian Josephson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Another example of Nobel disease.

 

[Trebuchet]

Another example of Nobel disease.

Josephson is even listed as an example in the article!

 

[angrysoba]

I'm sure there's a cold fusion thread but I can't search for it so I'm putting this here:

Cold fusion may be a viable energy alternative to end reliance on fossil fuels | Letters

Letters: A number of companies have been able to make these low-energy nuclear reactions work reliably, write Brian Josephson, David J Nagel, Alan Smith, Dr Jean-Paul Biberian and Yasuhiro Iwamura

www.theguardian.com

Very surprised to see this in today's Guardian, linked to from the home page. Are there really still people working on this? I thought it was dead and buried.

To be honest, the Grauniad regularly posts stupid pseudoscience crap.

 

[Pixel42]

Glad to see a good rebuttal in today's Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/feb/02/cold-fusion-claims-that-dont-bear-scrutiny

 

[Pixel42]

More letters in the Guardian

We need to keep an open mind on cold fusion potential | Letters

Letters: Scientists around the world are leading research into cold fusion as an alternative to fossil fuels so it should not be dismissed as pseudo-scientific, say MIT-based researchers. Plus a letter from Huw Price

www.theguardian.com

We are MIT-based researchers in an LENR research programme run by the US Department of Energy’s innovation agency, Arpa-E. Our group is pursuing the careful replication and characterisation of promising LENR experiments in close coordination with the original experimentalists and informed by the theoretical work of the MIT professor Peter Hagelstein.

Cold fusion could result in spectacular technologies. But we are convinced that the way forward requires rigorous, open-source scientific investigation, not more claims. The Arpa-E LENR programme – a result of Google’s research efforts in cold fusion summarised in the journal Nature – is a model in this regard. It balances the highest scientific standards and careful experimental documentation with an open mind to the anomalies reported in the LENR literature.

In many ways, cold fusion’s time has come. Advances in theory and experiment have made the LENR field eminently actionable. It is time for fellow scientists to constructively engage and for science funders to take Arpa-E’s lead and back rigorous inquiry into this promising field.