Katody Matrass
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Now that's some unique logic and dazzling spin
Just wanted to straighten some another attempt of spinning the facts
The Independent Court Appointed Experts destroyed any credibility of the cops from "scientifica", by pointing out how none of the widely agreed forensic procedures and recommendations where followed. They showed how the procedures the cops failed to follow are not only agreed on by the Interpol and the European Network of Forensic Science Institutes, two very competent and well regarded entities but even Missouri State Highway Patrol recommends the same in it's Forensic Evidence Handbook. The experts showed how universally accepted the rules of crime scene inspection are.
It is absolutely false, desperate and dishonest spin to pretend that the independent experts were not basing on univeral standards accepted by international organisations like Interpol and ENFSI, which they quoted, and which in theory should the italian police follow.
Yes, the question of what exactly the standards of the italian police were is rhetorical. When the video presenting extreme unprofessionality of the investigators and their disregard for any procedures, familiar even to a Highway Patrol officer was played in court, it caused gasps of disbelief and outbursts of laughter.
The cops trampled the crime scene in uncontrolled herds, not respecting basic rules like employing shoe covers, changing gloves, or using disposable tools. They gathered DNA with large smearing motions from many surfaces with the same swab, cross-contaminating the samples. The videos of them gift-wrapping the mop handle in a paper found on the crime scene and "walking" it into the blood stained room ended up on youtube. Same with the video of the cops passing around important piece of evidence with dirty gloves, handling it by many individuals only to drop it on the floor. It's there for everyone to watch and shake their heads in disbelief.
Unfortunately the failures in crime scene inspection were just a tip of the iceberg. The fact is that the polizia pseudoscientifica missed and failed to gather most of the important evidence, e.g. many bloody pieces of clothing and had to return after more then a month. The crime scene integrity had been seriously breached in the meantime in an undocumented way by unknown individuals. In fact the rooms were turned upside down, all the things including bloody pieces of evidence and even furniture tossed around in disarray.
The mishandling of the crime scene was one thing, but the main point of the independent report were the inexplicable errors of the prosecution's technician Stefanoni, suggesting either extreme incompetence or foul play.
I'd also note that the independent experts confirmed what was already indicated by many professionals and scientists familiar with the case. The "outside observers" who disagree with the independent report are a tiny extremely biased and over invested group of activists without any credentials. In fact those in the group, who had the credentials, like certain "Greggy", changed mind in favour of innocence and left.
The only scientist who tried (and failed) to criticise the report was Novelli, not only paid by the prosecution but in fact lacking credentials in the field of criminology or forensic DNA. No wonder the Court paid no attention to it and found that the DNA evidence is rubbish, just like the really knowledgeable experts argued all the time.
Just wanted to straighten some another attempt of spinning the facts
The Independent Court Appointed Experts destroyed any credibility of the cops from "scientifica", by pointing out how none of the widely agreed forensic procedures and recommendations where followed. They showed how the procedures the cops failed to follow are not only agreed on by the Interpol and the European Network of Forensic Science Institutes, two very competent and well regarded entities but even Missouri State Highway Patrol recommends the same in it's Forensic Evidence Handbook. The experts showed how universally accepted the rules of crime scene inspection are.
It is absolutely false, desperate and dishonest spin to pretend that the independent experts were not basing on univeral standards accepted by international organisations like Interpol and ENFSI, which they quoted, and which in theory should the italian police follow.
Yes, the question of what exactly the standards of the italian police were is rhetorical. When the video presenting extreme unprofessionality of the investigators and their disregard for any procedures, familiar even to a Highway Patrol officer was played in court, it caused gasps of disbelief and outbursts of laughter.
The cops trampled the crime scene in uncontrolled herds, not respecting basic rules like employing shoe covers, changing gloves, or using disposable tools. They gathered DNA with large smearing motions from many surfaces with the same swab, cross-contaminating the samples. The videos of them gift-wrapping the mop handle in a paper found on the crime scene and "walking" it into the blood stained room ended up on youtube. Same with the video of the cops passing around important piece of evidence with dirty gloves, handling it by many individuals only to drop it on the floor. It's there for everyone to watch and shake their heads in disbelief.
Unfortunately the failures in crime scene inspection were just a tip of the iceberg. The fact is that the polizia pseudoscientifica missed and failed to gather most of the important evidence, e.g. many bloody pieces of clothing and had to return after more then a month. The crime scene integrity had been seriously breached in the meantime in an undocumented way by unknown individuals. In fact the rooms were turned upside down, all the things including bloody pieces of evidence and even furniture tossed around in disarray.
The mishandling of the crime scene was one thing, but the main point of the independent report were the inexplicable errors of the prosecution's technician Stefanoni, suggesting either extreme incompetence or foul play.
I'd also note that the independent experts confirmed what was already indicated by many professionals and scientists familiar with the case. The "outside observers" who disagree with the independent report are a tiny extremely biased and over invested group of activists without any credentials. In fact those in the group, who had the credentials, like certain "Greggy", changed mind in favour of innocence and left.
The only scientist who tried (and failed) to criticise the report was Novelli, not only paid by the prosecution but in fact lacking credentials in the field of criminology or forensic DNA. No wonder the Court paid no attention to it and found that the DNA evidence is rubbish, just like the really knowledgeable experts argued all the time.
