Split Thread Conspiracy theories around the Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Andy_Ross]

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has ruled out recognising occupied Crimea as Russian territory, after reports suggested this could be discussed at the talks.

Trump attacks Zelensky over possibility of Crimea going to Russia

The Ukrainian president has consistently rejected the suggestion that his country give up its claim to the Crimean Peninsula.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ahhell]

It's bit crazy and despicable, in your desire for 'nuance' you are just trying to pin blame on the Ukrainians.

Its a bit despicable to absolutely take my statement out of context and reframe as ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊.

 

[dudalb]

I'm not attempting to defend or justify Putin's motives. Azov were not the only openly Nazi brigade at all. They were just the most visible.

I have no dog in this fight mate. I think staunchly supporting either side is irrational.

Notice how often when people deny something, that is exactly what they are doing?

 

[Axxman300]

I'm a proud member of NAFO:

We Are NAFO

The history of NAFO and its expansion is quite the tale. Read about it here.

nafo-ofan.org

I have donated money to kill Russians, and I will donate MORE money to kill Russians. Bonus: I got a t-shirt!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Ian McCollum (Gun Jesus himself) of Forgotten Weapons fame is a member.
He has been wearing a NAFO patch at some recent shooting matches.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

And the response, no your wrong doesn't make you right either.

I agree, every death is the fault of Putin, I just don't think its crazy to say there would have been fewer deaths and less suffering if the west hadn't enabled Ukrainian resistance.

I would dispute the highlighted part. Being invaded and occupied, having your children kidnapped and indoctrinated with the views of the invaders, and your entire national identity crushed, does, I venture, count as suffering, especially as a successful Russian occupation would be permanent.

 

[Andy_Ross]

There's a reason all those countries subjugated by Russia were so eager for independence.

 

[a_unique_person]

There's a reason all those countries subjugated by Russia were so eager for independence.

They were queuing up to join NATO while Russia's big announcement was a deal with North Korea.

 

[Monica 56]

Another False Flag ?

There were several signs pointing to the ‘false flag’ explanation, for instance a photo of a Russian drone that landed on a Polish “chicken coop” that shows the drone taped together with literal duct tape .

This is important because Ukraine was known to have been collecting previously-downed Russian drones in order to “creatively” reuse them for such a purpose. So a previously-destroyed or damaged drone could perhaps need some “work” to make it look whole for the ‘presentation’.

Additionally, Polish homes presented as “destroyed” by Russian drones were outed by citizens as houses that were damaged long ago by natural disasters:

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch...f17d-0935-4e56-afbb-0fed9dcde99e_748x680.jpeg

 

[Axxman300]

No, if you're familiar with Russian technology you'd know Duct Tape is standard issue.

 

[arthwollipot]

This is a clear and unambiguous example of what is referred to as "anomaly hunting". It's where a conspiracy theorist, in order to argue against the mainstream narrative, picks out some tiny apparent weirdness and holds it up as an example of the entire narrative being misleading.

"Oh yeah, well if that's what you think, how do you explain this, huh? Sheeple?"

 

[JimOfAllTrades]

No, if you're familiar with Russian technology you'd know Duct Tape is standard issue.

In Russia, duck tapes you!

 

[steenkh]

I find it very likely that the drone on the shed roof is an arrangement. Not because of the duct tape, but because there is no damage visible to the shed, or the drone.

But this is irrelevant to the general story that Russia has been flying drones over Poland.

 

[zooterkin]

Another False Flag ?

There were several signs pointing to the ‘false flag’ explanation, for instance a photo of a Russian drone that landed on a Polish “chicken coop” that shows the drone taped together with literal duct tape .

This is important because Ukraine was known to have been collecting previously-downed Russian drones in order to “creatively” reuse them for such a purpose. So a previously-destroyed or damaged drone could perhaps need some “work” to make it look whole for the ‘presentation’.

Additionally, Polish homes presented as “destroyed” by Russian drones were outed by citizens as houses that were damaged long ago by natural disasters:

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch...f17d-0935-4e56-afbb-0fed9dcde99e_748x680.jpeg

Does the original post say that's where the drone landed?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Closing a panel with duct tape makes sense on a single use drone
Why increase weight, expense and complexity with any other type of fastening?

 

[Monica 56]

Lovely to see the Ameican Sheeplets wriggling and deflecting .

Expect they will find the same type of gibberish to rationalise drone attacks in Romania which oddly ( ha, ha) have received virtually zero MSM Fake News coverage .

It's probably Drone Week in Moscow and they are sending out loving messages to all parts of the world , all hand made and finished off with Duct Tape wrapping instructions printed out in Russian .

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[jimbob]

Err, what

 

[arthwollipot]

Does the original post say that's where the drone landed?

I did a reverse image search on TinEye and found two sources - one appeared to be Ukrainian and one Slovakian. Neither gave a great deal of information about the provenance of the photo that I could determine. But someone else with better investiga-fu than me might be able to find out more.

 

[steenkh]

Lovely to see the Ameican Sheeplets wriggling and deflecting .

Deflecting from what?

Expect they will find the same type of gibberish to rationalise drone attacks in Romania which oddly ( ha, ha) have received virtually zero MSM Fake News coverage .

What drone attacks are you talking about? There has been no attacks in Romania, nor in Poland. Drones flying over a country is not an attack.

 

[arthwollipot]

Deflecting from what?

What drone attacks are you talking about? There has been no attacks in Romania, nor in Poland. Drones flying over a country is not an attack.

Marginal.