Conspiracy Theories are a Conspiracy!

[MG1962]

Why should it?

It would greatly improve the possibility of getting action and resolution.

Say a new commission is held, and half the truthers have their theory either validated or discounted. The other half are going to call for a new commission because their view was not addressed.

And lets say one small group of truthers did get it right and a truth is exposed and leaders are held accountable for their actions

Other truthers will not be satisfied because the uncovered truth is not their truth

 

[Reactor drone]

None of you are on the same page, and none of you have a coherent theory as to the who, what, how and why the US Govt would kill it owns citizens. Just a bunch of wild Tom Clancy novels.

It's worse than that, they have a bunch of pages ripped from 100 different novels and they've never bothered to stick them together to see if they make an actual story.

 

[JihadJane]

Quite using the Truther Tactic:



You know what I'm talking about JJ. I didn't study you Truthers for years for nothing. I know how you think & I understand what you are.

It bothers you to know that there are people out there, like me, that study Truther behavior & know what Truthers are going through.

Please list my "Truther" qualifications!



You don't know diddly-squat about me or how I think or what bothers me.

You appear to be on automatic pilot.

 

[JihadJane]

It would greatly improve the possibility of getting action and resolution.

Say a new commission is held, and half the truthers have their theory either validated or discounted. The other half are going to call for a new commission because their view was not addressed.

And lets say one small group of truthers did get it right and a truth is exposed and leaders are held accountable for their actions

Other truthers will not be satisfied because the uncovered truth is not their truth

There won't be a new commission.

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Ah ah...the question was posed to CTer's first.

Why doesn't it bother you that none of you CTer's can agree on a single story?

Why are you including me in your comfort-blanket "CTer's" collective, either-you're-for-us-against-us game?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Please list my "Truther" qualifications!



You don't know diddly-squat about me or how I think or what bothers me.

You appear to be on automatic pilot.

Truther qualifications:

1: Deceive - Misrepresent the claims of 9/11 Researchers into "Strawman" issues that are easily knocked down.

2: Dodge - Try to avoid or ignore any 9/11 evidence that you can not explain away.

3: Deny - Refuse to acknowledge any irrefutable evidence given is relevant to the 9/11 arguement.

4: Discredit - Use any possible ad hominem accusation to ruin the credibility of 9/11 Researchers.

5: Repeat - Repeat the Conspiracy Theories constantly.

Oh I know alot about your behavior JJ & I know how you think that 9/11 wasn't perped by Al-Qaeda. I know what bothers you the most, not having any evidence to prove anything you claim about 9/11.

You appear to be transparent to the real truth that 9/11 wasn't an "Inside Job". So continue to dream on JJ!

 

[JihadJane]

Truther qualifications:



Oh I know alot about your behavior JJ & I know how you think that 9/11 wasn't perped by Al-Qaeda.

You are wrong.

I know what bothers you the most, not having any evidence to prove anything you claim about 9/11.

What claims?

You appear to be transparent to the real truth that 9/11 wasn't an "Inside Job". So continue to dream on JJ!

Is being transparent to the real truth a bad thing?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

You are wrong.

What claims?

Is being transparent to the real truth a bad thing?

If I were "wrong", then why is it that that's what your qualifications are? You love to make excuses as to why people are "wrong", when you know they're right to begin with.

That 9/11 was an "Inside Job" perped by the U.S. Government. Too bad you don't have that "mountains of evidence" to prove it!

The real truth you can't swallow. All you can do is ignore what people are telling you & you handwave the evidence like it was nothing.

You said that I don't know you Truthers? I know you fellas real well!

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

None of you are on the same page, and none of you have a coherent theory as to the who, what, how and why the US Govt would kill it owns citizens.

Hell, some of them don't even believe the U.S. Government was the responsible party. They think "the Jews did it."

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Hell, some of them don't even believe the U.S. Government was the responsible party. They think "the Jews did it."

If they think the "Jews did it", then they're propaghanding for Adolf Hitler!

 

[Chuck Guiteau]

JJ, just what are your beliefs regarding the attacks on 9/11 and the identities of the perpetrators?

 

[dvictr]

Where is your evidence?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Where is your evidence?

It's plastered all over the internet in the form of Truther websites. Kind of sucks knowing that Truthers are the real conspiratists themselves, isn't it?

 

[JihadJane]

If I were "wrong", then why is it that that's what your qualifications are? You love to make excuses as to why people are "wrong", when you know they're right to begin with.

This is what you are wrong about:

“I know how you think that 9/11 wasn't perped by Al-Qaeda”.

That 9/11 was an "Inside Job" perped by the U.S. Government. Too bad you don't have that "mountains of evidence" to prove it!

Idiotic. Why should I provide evidence for something I've never claimed?

The real truth you can't swallow. All you can do is ignore what people are telling you & you handwave the evidence like it was nothing.

You said that I don't know you Truthers? I know you fellas real well!

Are you a pre-recorded message?

I didn’t say you “don't know you Truthers”.


I said "You don't know diddly-squat about me or how I think or what bothers me". [my bold]

JJ, just what are your beliefs regarding the attacks on 9/11 and the identities of the perpetrators?

My belief: We'll never know the full story.

Truther qualifications:

1: Deceive - Misrepresent the claims of 9/11 Researchers into "Strawman" issues that are easily knocked down.

2: Dodge - Try to avoid or ignore any 9/11 evidence that you can not explain away.

3: Deny - Refuse to acknowledge any irrefutable evidence given is relevant to the 9/11 arguement.

4: Discredit - Use any possible ad hominem accusation to ruin the credibility of 9/11 Researchers.

5: Repeat - Repeat the Conspiracy Theories constantly.

Perhaps you could illustrate how any of these qualifications apply to me.

 

[Chuck Guiteau]

My belief: We'll never know the full story.

That is an evasion, Jane. You don't know the full story about George Washington, the Treaty of Ghent or your own mother. No one ever knows the full story about anything.
Surely your belief extends beyond an admission of total ignorance, so why don't you just give us your suspicions about who perpetrated the attack?

This is what you are wrong about:


I said "You don't know diddly-squat about me or how I think or what bothers me". [my bold]

But we do know a lot about you, how you think, and what bothers you. You've told us yourself.

You're female, or you have some serious gender identity issues to address.

You're young. Under 30 and probably closer to 20.

You're poorly educated and the product of a public school in which even by their standards you were an underachiever (you found it boring, right?).

You have difficulty with relationships (does the phrase "No one understands me" ring a bell?)

You're either unemployed or working in a menial job.

You're very insecure.

You have a marked inferiority complex.

You fantasize a lot.

I'd say that's quite a bit considering the paucity of your posts.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Why should I provide evidence for something I've never claimed?

You seem proud of the fact that you lack the courage of your convictions.

We're well aware that you never claim anything. You merely insinuate in order to get attention.

Do you disagree?

(Careful with your answer. It might require you to make a claim.)

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Bolding's mine:

This is what you are wrong about:

“I know how you think that 9/11 wasn't perped by Al-Qaeda”.


Idiotic. Why should I provide evidence for something I've never claimed?

Because you're guilty be association with the 9/11 TM. Fair enough?


Are you a pre-recorded message?

LOL! Don't shoot the messenger! Unlike you, I'm not programmed to repeat the same lame CTs. You are programmed to ignore evidence when you see fit to ignore them.

I didn’t say you “don't know you Truthers”.

Can you speak English & not gibberish?

I said "You don't know diddly-squat about me or how I think or what bothers me". [my bold]

I know you, you just can't understand how I know you!


My belief: We'll never know the full story.

Your belief is pure BS! We know the full story & you can't accept it because you have no evidence.

Perhaps you could illustrate how any of these qualifications apply to me.

No illustration needed. You're guilty by association with the 9/11 TM!

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

For someone who uses the screen name "Jihad Jane" sure knows how to pick that kind of name without reseaching first:

JihadJane, an American woman, faces terrorism charges.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/09/AR2010030902670.html

A petite, blond-haired, blue-eyed high school dropout who allegedly used the nickname JihadJane was identified Tuesday as an alleged terrorist intent on recruiting others to her cause, as federal prosecutors unsealed criminal charges that could send her to prison for life.

JJ, need I say any more?

 

[Patriots4Truth]

When you think of anyone believing a conspiracy theory you may as well think that they are a weirdo.

But people that spend endless amount of time debunking the weirdo are actually the weirdest of them all. Do y'all really have nothing better to do? I would say get a job but I'm starting to believe that debunking 9/11 conspiracy is some people's job here at jref.

Being obsessed with conspiracy is one thing. Being obsessed with debunking weirdos is... to put it mildly... completely insane.

 

[riptowtan]

When you think of anyone believing a conspiracy theory you may as well think that they are a weirdo.

But people that spend endless amount of time debunking the weirdo are actually the weirdest of them all. Do y'all really have nothing better to do? I would say get a job but I'm starting to believe that debunking 9/11 conspiracy is some people's job here at jref.

Being obsessed with conspiracy is one thing. Being obsessed with debunking weirdos is... to put it mildly... completely insane.

I don't agree with that. I find debunking weak arguments/theories fun and good practice for building argumentative skills. I also find conspiracy theories to be really interesting to talk about. It's kind of like a hobby I guess..

 

[Patriots4Truth]

but if you don't have the skill set to debunk engineering arguments why bother. that's where 9/11 conspiracy is heading - all engineering talk.