Conspiracy believers, answer me this:

[Disbelief]

PLUS 12/12/12 would be 2 x 6/6/6. A very important point.

Very good point and thanks for pointing it out!

 

[Belz...]

You only have to look at the official explanation. It is basicly a theory that fire softened the steel. For this to have happenend you needed time to let the fire work on the steel structure.

It is of course a silly explanation, because the time the steel structures were exposed to the fires were way too short.

And how come you know this better than all the experts ?

Yes, all except the one. Please answer the question.

How would it have looked, if the towers had collapsed immediately after the planes hit? What would the explanation be based on?

Physical damage to the structure. Gosh. That wasn't so hard, was it ?

 

[Belz...]

Like I said, if God wants to get your attention, he'll get it - one way or another Not only that, He can change your mind (literally) without your involvement - that's what happened to me.

Interesting. So your god can change your mind by using his magic if he fails to do so by using your logic ? That's quite the omnibenevolent god, what, with the removal of your freedom and all. Don't you find it a tad irritating that he changed you against your will ? I thought humans had free will ?

Belzebub:

You rang ?

It's only a matter of time before Someone will throw you off your high horse

What "high horse" are you refering to ? Or are you just preaching and engaging in useless rhetoric ?

Who but a mental midget, emotional dwarf AND spiritual cripple would pick such an avatar?! Gee, you mean it's not real? - it's from fantasy land, then

Yes, yes it is. It's from a website that makes digital imagery. Imagery means someone created the image. The image itself is not real, aside from its physical component. Also, in this case, the "dark knight", the image doesn't even represent anything real. My previous avatar, the "abyssal overlord", doesn't either. See ? Reality and fiction can be perceived, both exist, but fiction represents things that aren't real. You can see what I mean by reading the bible.

It's truly a miracle how you can be right about anything

And on what do you base your conclusion ? I can only surmise that you base it on your preconceived notion that I am an idiot. That would be assuming your conclusion, by the way.

Jesus the Christ is not dead! (He was resurrected )

And therefore there was no sacrifice.

 

[Belz...]

Why do I post here? You musta missed my Introduction: I post here for the silent majority (listeners), who outnumber the talkers by a LARGE margin

How do you know they are a majority ?

PS I'm hoping that the listeners will be of 'greater stature' than the talkers, all around

Oh, some of them are. I would venture to guess that most are unimpressed by your 4th-century-level preaching.

Chieftain: "Holy slap! The volcano's exploding!"
Witch doctor: "The volcano god is angry!"
Chieftain: "Volcano god ? What the hell are you babbling about, old man ?"
Witch doctor: "See how it glows red, like an angry man ? And hear how it is making loud noises, like an angry man ?"
Chieftain: "Er... yeah. I guess, but then if-"
Witch doctor: "He demands a sacrifice!!!"
Chieftain: "Wait a minute, how do we even know-"
Witch doctor: "Like all angry men, only a virgin will soothe him!"
Chieftain: "Well, I think there are a number of other things that would-"
Witch doctor: "HERETIC! It is because of people like you that the volcano is angry!"
Chieftain: "Huh ? Why ?"
Witch doctor: "Because you refuse to heed the truth!"
Chieftain: "Now, we haven't invented logic yet, but this sounds remarkably circular..."

Can you figure out why I don't like to answer your questions?

Because you can't ?

 

[Belz...]

Now PAY ATTENTION:

Sorry, bloke. Public forum. Public thread. He'll pay attention if he damn well pleases.

I don't agree with his racist anti-Semitism.

That's the first positive thing I can say about you, so far.

There is NOT ONE statement on my website (my words) that is anti-Semitic! Anti-Zionist YES and in Spades!

I take that back. You're hiding your racism, again.

The Jews (REAL Jews) are the most immediate victims of Zionism!

WAHOO! That'll be a first for me: No True Scottsman fallacy.

Elizabeth I:

Choose your poison

Form. Of. ARSENIC!

The public is kept in the dark about MANY things, including nuclear technology but we can safely assume that they (US and Israel, for starters) have it - they've been playing with it for long enough!

Well, that's a particularily violent and retarded form of an argument from ignorance: We don't know whether it's true, therefore it is.



Oh, and DAMMIT, Disbelief: I can't focus, with your avatar!

 

[CurtC]

[about Jesus's resurrection] And therefore there was no sacrifice.

I've seen it described that "Jesus had a really bad weekend for your sins."

 

[Horatius]

I've seen it described that "Jesus had a really bad weekend for your sins."

"36 hours, tops, 35 if we did it on the week that they set the clocks forward..."

 

[CurtC]

"36 hours, tops, 35 if we did it on the week that they set the clocks forward..."

"Take that all the way to void, and then back it off a skosh."

I liked the prayer one even better:

 

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

If the collapse of WTC1, 2 and 7 were indeed CD's, why the delay in time between the impact of the planes and collapse?

Are you implying big brother behind the scenes had enough compassion to let some people escape before detonating the buildings? The perpetrators of the event wanted to kill between 2 and 5 thousand, but not tens of thousands of people? Why. More deaths would get everyone on the bandwagon to war even faster, huh?

Or, are you saying there was a malfunction with the CD in BOTH buildings, and it took about an hour to fix each problem?

I'm ardently opposed to all conspiracy theories but I can think of a reasonable explanation for that. Big Brother was simulating what would happen had someone really flown two planes into two exo-skeletonal steel structures.

 

[Mancman]

You only have to look at the official explanation. It is basicly a theory that fire softened the steel. For this to have happenend you needed time to let the fire work on the steel structure.

It is of course a silly explanation, because the time the steel structures were exposed to the fires were way too short.

How would it have looked, if the towers had collapsed immediately after the planes hit? What would the explanation be based on?

Explain the photos in this thread for us Pagan: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78442

The south wall of WTC1 is visibly bowing inward. As was the east wall of WTC2. Both of these bowing walls failed and initiated the collapses. The WTC2 wall was seen bowing inward just 21 minutes after the plane impact.

Did steel weaken? Yes or no?

 

[JimBenArm]

JBA:

I keep telling you (and others) to go and STUDY my website - the answers to your questions are just about ALL there! - including your last one! HINT: The answer to 'What should be done about the evil Zionists?' can be found in SEVERAL PLACES. Now go there and PAY ATTENTION. Are you just trying to prove my last point? (Laura, this is NOT an insult! - it's a simple question)

PS Sorry LISA!

And I keep telling you I'm not about to set foot in your website. You got something to say, say it here. I shouldn't have to slog through that excuse for a website to find answers to my questions. And quit being condesending.

 

[GodSend]

JBA:

You get what you deserve - NOT what you want! In your case, you deserve nada And Thanks! for not visiting my website and polluting it by your mere presence

PS I have NOTHING to say to you, whatsoever! (actually, never did) - something about not casting your pearls before swine Lisa, if you're eavesdropping, that's NOT a personal attack - it's a biblical metaphor and not to be taken literally!

Hmmm.......I wonder if Lisa knows what a biblical metaphor is? (we'll see, I guess)

 

[Horatius]

Hmmm.......I wonder if Lisa knows what a biblical metaphor is? (we'll see, I guess)

It's the excuse the loser in an argument uses to conceal their personal attacks.

Thanks for Playing!

Just keep looking for god, he might be anywhere!

 

[GodSend]

HorRATius:

Love that cat! As black as..........

 

[JimBenArm]

JBA:

You get what you deserve - NOT what you want! In your case, you deserve nada And Thanks! for not visiting my website and polluting it by your mere presence

PS I have NOTHING to say to you, whatsoever! (actually, never did) - something about not casting your pearls before swine Lisa, if you're eavesdropping, that's NOT a personal attack - it's a biblical metaphor and not to be taken literally!

Hmmm.......I wonder if Lisa knows what a biblical metaphor is? (we'll see, I guess)

Aw, come on, did I upset the poor anti-Zionist that much? Can't back up your statements, so just throw a hissy fit, and storm off. Typical. Haven't seen a bigot yet that could take me toe-to-toe. You guys either put me on ignore, or get banned for stupid behavior. But then, I wouldn't expect anything else!
As for you, though, I won't be ignoring you. I'm going to keep on you like white on rice, buddy! So, if you want me to go away, you'll have to do better than this. Whining just isn't an argument.
So, what is it about them evil Zionists that has your panties all in a knot, anyway? They steal your girlfriend, or something?

 

[JimBenArm]

It's the excuse the loser in an argument uses to conceal their personal attacks.

Thanks for Playing!

Just keep looking for god, he might be anywhere!

[URL]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_9490455687724e957.jpg[/URL]

Just remember; Jesus is coming! Everyone look busy!

 

[GodSend]

Well, JBA, if you want to engage me on some kinda spiritual/conspiracy issue, be polite and give me your best question. If the question is: What should we do with Zionists?, the answer is: Nothing! - God will do something with Zionists (and it won't be pretty) If you want to know more specifics, the more specific answer is: He will MELT them. Check the OT for the book, chapter and verse Read it from beginning to end, and you can't miss it!

GodSend, you were warned on April 3 to cease using personal insults and to be civil toward other members, as per your membership agreement. I have excised your offending comments and left the part of your post that is germane to the discussion.

Don't personalize discussions with insults, veiled or not.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: jmercer

 

[A W Smith]

Actually i think hes gonna melt the Nazis when they pry open the ark of the covenant. Hey i saw it in a movie! The guy in the s&m gear... I mean the Nazi uniform. his face melted RIGHT OFF like wax!

 

[David Wong]

The disconnect between the behavior Godsend demands of others versus what he demands of himself is astonishing. He believes only absolute holiness will save a man... and yet he blithely spits the nastiest insults at everyone he encounters.

How does he never make that connection? How does he not see how ugly his own behavior is?

Is that a specific personality disorder? It's not just hypocrisy, it's something on a level that borders on neurosis.

If you want a famous example of someone like that, the crazy football player Terrell Owens. Those of you who followed his story know what I'm talking about. He used to go to the press every day and say the ugliest things (even spreading gay rumors about Jeff Garcia) and would act BAFFLED when anyone took offense. Then, when one of his teammates issued a mild, generic quote saying the team would keep winning without Owens, he was outraged literally to the point of tears. "Keep winning!?!?! Without ME?!?!? I've never been so insulted!!!"

It's like a kind of deafness to his own voice, a blindness to his own actions. If Godsend replies to this post, watch how far he steers clear from addressing the issue at all. It'll almost sound like he's replying to someone else entirely.

Bizarre. But interesting to watch.

 

[JimBenArm]

JBA:

What is that avatar, anyway? Some kinda doggie with a funny hat?

It's Dogbert. If you read anything other than neo-nazi websites, you'd have known that.

So you wanna go 'mano-a-mano' with me, eh? (I don't do toes).

That I do!

So, are you related to the chipmunk by blood or by excrement?

This is supposed to be funny? Is it more of your "Christian" love? Consider this reported.

Are you some kinda tag-team that escaped from the WWF?

What, you don't like having people make fun of you? I figure by now you'd be used to it!

Whining? - who's whining? All I hear is oinking from, what? - a pigdog? (Lisa, that's NOT a personal attack! Pigdogs are VERY useful creatures They are also known as 'Schweinehund' - a special, German breed - truly).
Anyway, it's just an innocent question - and we're discussing the avatar, not JBA

Just stating something does not make it true. Calling me a "pig dog" is a personal attack. And 'Schweinehund'? What's next, Heil Hitler?

Well, JBA, if you want to engage me on some kinda spiritual/conspiracy issue, be polite

You're telling me to be polite? Irony, thy name is Godsend!

and give me your best question. If the question is: What should we do with Zionists?, the answer is: Nothing! - God will do something with Zionists (and it won't be pretty) If you want to know more specifics, the more specific answer is: He will MELT them. Check the OT for the book, chapter and verse Read it from beginning to end, and you can't miss it!

Oh, I'm sure the Zionists are going to be melted. You betcha.

Next question: How do YOU go about determining who is or isn't a Zionist? Do you have some special sight, or is there some outward marking that gives them away?