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CONNIE SONNE, Dowser

connie sonne said:
Hi out there...now I know why Banacheck was "the card handler". I have been cheated. I did find the right cards. And there is one more thing. At the stage, Banacheck said to me BEFORE he even looked in the envelope I had cut...and here is spade ace, the one you looked for!!!! I first hit me now about that ....but maybe you can see it yourself if someone get the video. I don`t care about the money, that wasn`t the reason why I came. So no matter what you think out there......I was CHEATED!!!!!

Connie
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Was it the last card? I don't recall such an even occurring.

Besides, I thought you had determined that the spirits that guide you decided this was not your time to shine?
 
I'm now sorry I prematurely congratulated you on your dignified conduct, Connie. I see I was mistaken.

Is it at all possible that you are wrong? Because if we do think about it, as you suggest, than it's much easier to believe that you failed because your odds of success were one in a thousand (in other words, no better than anyone else's) than because you were the victim of an elaborate hoax.

If you had succeeded, than everyone here would have been prepared to accept that your claims deserve to be taken seriously, or at least that further investigation is warranted. What would it to take for you to admit you are in error?
 
connie sonne said:
Hi out there...now I know why Banacheck was "the card handler". I have been cheated. I did find the right cards. And there is one more thing. At the stage, Banacheck said to me BEFORE he even looked in the envelope I had cut...and here is spade ace, the one you looked for!!!! I first hit me now about that ....but maybe you can see it yourself if someone get the video. I don`t care about the money, that wasn`t the reason why I came. So no matter what you think out there......I was CHEATED!!!!!

Connie
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Since this event was recorded I am sure that it will be possible to review the video and see if your claim has merit. I think I know what you are talking about and from my vantage point I could tell that Banachek noticed the card after the envelope had been cut and he had peered inside and then remarked that it was an Ace. I did not feel that he had in any way known the suit and card until he saw it.

I guess in the end, like most of the hoaxters out there, I knew you would start making accusations and excuses for your charlatan ways. Face it Connie Sonne, you failed the challenge.
 
connie sonne said:
Hi out there...now I know why Banacheck was "the card handler". I have been cheated. I did find the right cards. And there is one more thing. At the stage, Banacheck said to me BEFORE he even looked in the envelope I had cut...and here is spade ace, the one you looked for!!!! I first hit me now about that ....but maybe you can see it yourself if someone get the video. I don`t care about the money, that wasn`t the reason why I came. So no matter what you think out there......I was CHEATED!!!!!

Connie
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You were told and then asked about Banacheck beforehand, you knew who he was and what he did for a living (he is not just a 'card handler', and all magicians have 'card handling' in their bag of tricks) and you still agreed, and he did NOTHING to those envelopes (they were doubled upped and you had to cut both envelopes open). He did nothing but observe and pull cards out of envelopes with you STANDING over him so you could see every move he made).

He did not say that until the envelope was cut open, I was there, and he only said that once he saw it.

The test was fair and extremely controlled. There is no way at all he could have done anything to "cheat" you. You are just saying that now because it seems like an easy "out". You were made aware beforehand totally about who he was, and you could see he did NOTHING to cheat you, NOTHING.

I've just lost all respect for you.
 
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It does seem like they should have had someone else handling the cards / envelopes, running the test and had Banachek standing to oversee the protocol.
If nothing else just to avoid such claims of impropriety.

We may all think Banachek is a stand up guy, but would any of us trust one of Sylvia Brown or Benny Hinn's cronies. From the believers view it isn't any different.

If my memory is correct the envelope was cut and it appeared he looked inside before announcing the card.
Plus any card switch would have had to been done at the picking & opening of the original picks, not at the verification of the unpicked cards stage. It seems it would be little late.

Ms Sonne failed because dousing doesn't work (duh!)

Would have been cool if she had gotten one anyway. Too bad it was statistically average.
 
I was sitting in the second row, and paid pretty close attention. She was the one that cut open each envelope, and Banachek had to pull on some harder to get them out of the envelopes. She was standing in front of him, it was recorded. He did not say, to the best of my recollection, anything about the contents of an envelope before he open and pulled, or attempted to pull, the cards from the envelopes.

I also went to the press conference afterward. Everyone was respectful. She says that the powers 'out there' weren't ready to be revealed. She seems like a very nice lady, but she is deluded.
 
connie sonne said:
Hi out there...now I know why Banacheck was "the card handler". I have been cheated. I did find the right cards. And there is one more thing. At the stage, Banacheck said to me BEFORE he even looked in the envelope I had cut...and here is spade ace, the one you looked for!!!! I first hit me now about that ....but maybe you can see it yourself if someone get the video. I don`t care about the money, that wasn`t the reason why I came. So no matter what you think out there......I was CHEATED!!!!!

Connie
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Every one of us in the audience knew you would make excuses for your failure (we knew you would fail in advance). Does that mean we are psychic? After all, we saw into the future.

:crazy:
 
connie sonne said:
Hi out there...now I know why Banacheck was "the card handler". I have been cheated. I did find the right cards. And there is one more thing. At the stage, Banacheck said to me BEFORE he even looked in the envelope I had cut...and here is spade ace, the one you looked for!!!! I first hit me now about that ....but maybe you can see it yourself if someone get the video. I don`t care about the money, that wasn`t the reason why I came. So no matter what you think out there......I was CHEATED!!!!!

Connie
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Boy, did you just lose points.

You had earned my respect for your professionalism and respect for the process. Way to piss all over it.
 
connie sonne said:
Hi out there...now I know why Banacheck was "the card handler". I have been cheated. I did find the right cards. And there is one more thing. At the stage, Banacheck said to me BEFORE he even looked in the envelope I had cut...and here is spade ace, the one you looked for!!!! I first hit me now about that ....but maybe you can see it yourself if someone get the video. I don`t care about the money, that wasn`t the reason why I came. So no matter what you think out there......I was CHEATED!!!!!

Connie
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I was cheated! I read your reply. I was hoping for some dignity, I feel cheated now. CHEATED I tell ya.
 
I agree that it took a lot of bravery for Ms. Sonne to appear at TAM7 and attempt to perform her supposed "gift" in front of a large room full of people who, even if they thought it would be interesting if she was able to prove herself and her claim, really expected her to fail.

And here's the deal with the "psychological problems" put simply: if she knew she was faking, she wouldn't have agreed to the protocol. If she genuinely believed in her powers, of course she would try to prove them.

Any excuse she can come up with does not change the fact that there is no proof anywhere, whatsoever than any supernatural or paranormal powers exist.
 
Gzuzkrytz, you are right about both. I can and will demonstrate everything. I can and will ensure you, that Ì have been cheated. I allready have the evidences. Check my name out in first in september. I will get a website where I will put it ALL, also in english. AND all the evidences about Maddie. So you can THEN decide if I´m deluded or not!! I can only say now....most of you people out there are wrong, very wrong. My last words here on this site.

Connie
 
connie sonne said:
Hi out there...now I know why Banacheck was "the card handler". I have been cheated. I did find the right cards. And there is one more thing. At the stage, Banacheck said to me BEFORE he even looked in the envelope I had cut...and here is spade ace, the one you looked for!!!! I first hit me now about that ....but maybe you can see it yourself if someone get the video. I don`t care about the money, that wasn`t the reason why I came. So no matter what you think out there......I was CHEATED!!!!!

Connie
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Like many others, I was about to offer my congratulations in the professional way you handled yourself and the grace with which you accepted failure. And like others, I have lost all respect.

As I understand it, the protocol must be agreed to by all parties. I think it is highly likely you knew well in advance that Banachek would be the tester. This gave you ample opportunity to object, even to the point of arriving on stage and saying “No, I want someone else.”

Instead, you indicated everything was being done fairly. Banachek kept saying “Ok?” and you kept saying “Yes”. The event was recorded from several angles. If you feel you were cheated, I encourage you to point out when and how. If you do not do that or retract your accusation, I (and many others) will remain convinced that you are not only a charlatan but also a sore loser.
 
connie sonne said:
Gzuzkrytz, you are right about both. I can and will demonstrate everything. I can and will ensure you, that Ì have been cheated. I allready have the evidences. Check my name out in first in september. I will get a website where I will put it ALL, also in english. AND all the evidences about Maddie. So you can THEN decide if I´m deluded or not!! I can only say now....most of you people out there are wrong, very wrong. My last words here on this site.

Connie
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Ma-mom-ma-mamma said that I got's these dowsing powers. Your wrong!


I am not sorry for ridiculing you, nor should I be sorry. You failed a controlled test and called the testers cheaters. That is a cry-baby poor sport, a highly technical term. Nothing aggravates me more than someone who doesn't take responsibility for their actions. You failed with the protocol YOU agreed to. Grow up and accept reality.
 
connie sonne said:
Gzuzkrytz, you are right about both. I can and will demonstrate everything. I can and will ensure you, that Ì have been cheated. I allready have the evidences. Check my name out in first in september. I will get a website where I will put it ALL, also in english. AND all the evidences about Maddie. So you can THEN decide if I´m deluded or not!! I can only say now....most of you people out there are wrong, very wrong. My last words here on this site.

Connie
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Why September and not now? If you really have the evidence that you say you have, there is no need to wait for one and a half month.

Or is it because you need that long to peek into Photoshop and video-editing to fabricate your evidence and doctor the videos to make them show what you want to make them show, but which isn't there?

You are a really bad loser. Shame on you for saying that people cheated on you.

No greetings to you,

Chris
 
connie sonne said:
Gzuzkrytz, you are right about both. I can and will demonstrate everything. I can and will ensure you, that Ì have been cheated. I allready have the evidences. Check my name out in first in september. I will get a website where I will put it ALL, also in english. AND all the evidences about Maddie. So you can THEN decide if I´m deluded or not!! I can only say now....most of you people out there are wrong, very wrong. My last words here on this site.

Connie
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I already know the answer. Does that make me psychic?
 
If Ms. Sonne truly believes she has been cheated by Jref, she is free to look into arbitration and to present her proof. Certainly she could even file a civil claim and a complaint (including her proof) with the District Attorney for fraud.

Something tells me none of this will occur.
 
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