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Ed Confessions of a Bigfoot Hoaxer?

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(the information in this post may or may not be factual - you decide!)

I'm traveling fairly often due to my job and I also love to get out in the woods and hike, mtn bike and canoe/kayak. Due to the nature of my work I'm not always able to bring a bike or canoe/kayak along and sometimes I have little time to plan out excursions to the woods. So sometimes during my travels I like to have a bit of fun with the gullible. Now before anyone gets upset, I do not try to hide this, or lie about what I'm doing. I do it purely to leave dents in the ground for my own fun. (and yes, to poke fun at the bigfooters a little) It is perfectly legal, and safe to do. In fact, I will use this thread as a guide to those that may want to try this in the future, and encourage anyone interested to give it a go.

What I will be revealing is how I have made different types of stompers, and how to use them best. What I won't be revealing is where I've done it, for how long or how many times. To some this may be controversial, especially considering my viewpoints on the bigfoot phenomenon. I enjoy fooling the fools, and don't mind showing people how to do this themselves. People really should know that bigfoot is fake, and it is never real. That is part of the reason I'm posting this, to show how easy it is. Skeptics are often told bigfoot prints cannot be faked, when in fact all of them are. (the only exception being misidentified tracks from other natural fauna)

My first set of stompers I made from 2 inch thick alder wood. A lot like Ray Wallace's stompers. I was curious if it could be done. Mark that one off the bucket list. Here is a photo showing my design when I first began. (no, i will not show the finished product as I do not want the stompers tracks easily identifiable) These stompers actually worked pretty well and I use them screwed onto some old work boots I had laying around. A little carving, a little dremel work, some sanding and wow... not too bad. This photo shows the very beginning outlines I started with as to not show the final product.

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I later discovered some better materials to use for this. Mixable urethane foam. It can be very easily molded and can be quite flexible depending on what density is purchased. (i will not show my stompers, but i will show some similar that I found online) This stuff is great for making a more realistic appearing track because they vary some due to the flexibility. Here's an example I found of someone else using a similar process. Mine are a little more detailed. My stompers have incorporated some "dermal ridges" that I made with my original mold out of clay. (which is filled with the urethane)

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I know there are others out there that have done this, some of whom have revealed this in the past. Matt Crowley being one of them that posts images of his very basic stompers and tracks. He's done some excellent work in the past with exposing the bigfoot myth.

One of the most important things to making good tracks is conditions! I cannot emphasize this enough. Without proper soil conditions and hardness, you will be wasting your time. I like to wait until after a long rain storm of a few days or more. When the rain is almost stopped, or has just stopped is the best time to do this. Why? Because the ground is softer than normal, and more apt to accept your dents with ease. This also gives the false impression of the footprints being much deeper than a human could leave in normal conditions. Also, if you do this just before the precipitation stops, it can help give some variance to your tracks and to the final look of your imprints. You can do this crossing dirt roads in a very short trackway that disappears into the brush easily.


I would suggest doing this anywhere you suspect bigfooters may be scouting, or in areas where it is more likely to be seen. After all, bigfoot is everywhere, yet nowhere! Also, be careful and respect private property. I would never advise anyone to do this on someone else's land as you don't want to be trespassing. (some bigfooters especially might get upset about this, but hey it happens!) So you've made some good stompers and tracks/dents in the ground. What next? Nothing! Do not ever report your own tracks, or lead someone to them. Let them be discovered on their own.

As I said above, I do not lie about making these all over the country. I just won't tell you when or where. I've taught two people how to do this on their own, and seen some of their efforts. I'd love to see more people get into this as it helps expose bigfoot con artists that would use these to support the existence and not to expose the myth. The more people out there making tracks, the more hilarious it becomes. (IMHO)

Is it all a big story? Or do I really travel all over the country doing this? who knows right? Some may see this as controversial. (i think its funny) Take it or leave it.

Anyone else have suggestions on how to make good fake bigfoot prints? Lets hear it.
 
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Well, I suppose it beats trolling on a keyboard - at least it gets you outside.

If you're looking for applause for trolling bigfooters, someone will no doubt provide it, but to me it seems a fairly puerile thing to do
 
One problem I see is that those prints aren't flat, such as the recently discussed pics in Chrisbfrpky's video.

A flat track is common for bigfoot. And alderfoot.

The idea of a flat bottomed foot goes back to Gimlin's descriptions.

Chris says that he knows those prints in his video are real, and they show a virtually flat bottom of the foot as far as I can tell.

I would guess that if you stomped in Chris's neck of the woods with your "feet", Chris would say they were fake tracks.
 
A couple of questions for you.

How do you pick the locations to leave the tracks? Do you research the area first or just drive around and pull over when the feeling hits you?

When putting on your fake feet, do you do it in sight of others or do you hide it and make sure no one is around?

Do you pick locations that are well traveled, or go deep into relatively unexplored areas?

Have you seen any of your tracks show up on popular Bigfoot sites and if so, when and where?

What is your normal stride length and do you try and intentionally make it longer? If so, what is the longest you can achieve?

Thanks.
NL
 
A couple of questions for you.

How do you pick the locations to leave the tracks? Do you research the area first or just drive around and pull over when the feeling hits you?

When putting on your fake feet, do you do it in sight of others or do you hide it and make sure no one is around?

Do you pick locations that are well traveled, or go deep into relatively unexplored areas?

Have you seen any of your tracks show up on popular Bigfoot sites and if so, when and where?

What is your normal stride length and do you try and intentionally make it longer? If so, what is the longest you can achieve?

Thanks.
NL

Let me help you. Any large footed trackway you come across is either the result of a degraded track from an actual animal, a track from Shaq, or a hoax.

If Sherpas can hoax round eyes by laying down tracks at altitude in the Himalayas, what's the problem with someone laying down a little sumpin'-sumpin' at the terminus of a logging road somewhere in the Superior National Forest?
 
Meldrum is already selling casts of Riverfoots?

Maybe the odds of a "hit" are low since you are not part of the bigfootery's evidence-producing elite group.

Bigfoot research 1: "Hey, was it you?"
Bigfoot research 2:"Nope."
Bigfoot research 1:"Attention guys, my über bigfoot tracking skills indicate ITS A FRAUD!"
 
A couple of questions for you.

How do you pick the locations to leave the tracks? Do you research the area first or just drive around and pull over when the feeling hits you?

When putting on your fake feet, do you do it in sight of others or do you hide it and make sure no one is around?

Do you pick locations that are well traveled, or go deep into relatively unexplored areas?

Have you seen any of your tracks show up on popular Bigfoot sites and if so, when and where?

What is your normal stride length and do you try and intentionally make it longer? If so, what is the longest you can achieve?

Thanks.
NL

You trying to find some new tips & ideas?
 
One problem I see is that those prints aren't flat, such as the recently discussed pics in Chrisbfrpky's video.

A flat track is common for bigfoot. And alderfoot.

The idea of a flat bottomed foot goes back to Gimlin's descriptions.

Chris says that he knows those prints in his video are real, and they show a virtually flat bottom of the foot as far as I can tell.

I would guess that if you stomped in Chris's neck of the woods with your "feet", Chris would say they were fake tracks.


The alder ones actually happened due to a buddy of mine leaving some spare wood blocks for guitar bodies laying around and mentioned I could have them. Since it was alder, I decided to see what I could do as a "laymen" and non artist to make some stompers. I made them to my own specifications and did not use anyones as a model. After all, no one really knows what a bigfoot foot looks like right? Any large footprint will do. The urethane foam ones are much more impressive due to the slight flexibility.
 
A couple of questions for you.

How do you pick the locations to leave the tracks? Do you research the area first or just drive around and pull over when the feeling hits you?

Generally speaking when I travel I don't have a lot of time in each town so it usually ends up being a spur of the moment thing when the conditions and time is there. (remember, I'm traveling for my work not just for fun)

When putting on your fake feet, do you do it in sight of others or do you hide it and make sure no one is around?

I do nothing to hide what I'm doing, and do not care if someone sees. Almost all of the time someone (sometimes more than one person) is with me watching.

Do you pick locations that are well traveled, or go deep into relatively unexplored areas?

In my post I mentioned that I like to hike/bike/canoe/kayak. Generally speaking these would be the same locations. Sometimes its remote, sometimes its not. The stompers fit nicely in a backpack and are quite easy to use anywhere/anytime the conditions are right.

Have you seen any of your tracks show up on popular Bigfoot sites and if so, when and where?

What is your normal stride length and do you try and intentionally make it longer? If so, what is the longest you can achieve?

Thanks.
NL


I've never been approached about a certain print or track or even asked by anyone observing this. In fact I'd bet that most footers would rather "look the other way" and then report the awesome big guy tracks they spotted in the remote wilderness, and how scary it was because they had a feeling of fear and the infrasound got them scurd. If you'd like instructions on how to do this you're welcome to hire someone like me. I probably wouldn't charge anymore than say a single showing of the PGF on television. lol?
 
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Meldrum is already selling casts of Riverfoots?

Maybe the odds of a "hit" are low since you are not part of the bigfootery's evidence-producing elite group.

Bigfoot research 1: "Hey, was it you?"
Bigfoot research 2:"Nope."
Bigfoot research 1:"Attention guys, my über bigfoot tracking skills indicate ITS A FRAUD!"


I think it's much simpler than that. Pretty much any find that could be mistaken for such, would be used.
 
As I said above, I do not lie about making these all over the country. I just won't tell you when or where. I've taught two people how to do this on their own, and seen some of their efforts. I'd love to see more people get into this as it helps expose bigfoot con artists that would use these to support the existence and not to expose the myth. The more people out there making tracks, the more hilarious it becomes. (IMHO)
How does that work? How do you expose Bigfoot con artists who use the fake tracks for promotion if you do not present evidence of the tracks actually coming from a hoax operation? For that necessary part, how do you do it without implicating yourself as being part of the hoax operation?

Maybe I'm missing something here, but it would seem to compromise your own personal safety when you make your move to expose the Bigfooter con artist using your stuff.

BTW, your carved Alderfeet look like the spawn of Wallace. You have the goofy double-ball and also the upside-down bowling pin thing going on. The only thing missing are square toes.
 
How does that work? How do you expose Bigfoot con artists who use the fake tracks for promotion if you do not present evidence of the tracks actually coming from a hoax operation? For that necessary part, how do you do it without implicating yourself as being part of the hoax operation?

Maybe I'm missing something here, but it would seem to compromise your own personal safety when you make your move to expose the Bigfooter con artist using your stuff.

BTW, your carved Alderfeet look like the spawn of Wallace. You have the goofy double-ball and also the upside-down bowling pin thing going on. The only thing missing are square toes.


All bigfoot tracks are either hoaxed or misidentified. Let's not forget that even kids toys these days are mimicking bigfoot tracks. A quick google search should confirm this for you and anyone interested. Several companies make them.

https://www.google.com/search?q=big...a=X&ei=4tJsVI3NKIHlggTDh4P4Cg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw


I'm not worried about my safety. I'd welcome any bigfooter just as any skeptic. There are some interested in the phenomenon that take it beyond that and perhaps could be mentally unstable. Those people would be avoided regardless of any monster interest. I meet strangers every day when traveling. (and sometimes, i really do mean STRANGER in the most literal sense haha)
 
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I made a pair of stompers using cast-off lumber from an old redwood fence. I cut out some modeling foamboard to make a fairly detailed foot outline (scaled out from a tracing of my own foot) and affixed that to the bottom. As just a wet footprint outline on a hard surface it wasn't too bad, but it looked really stupid in mud or sand. My biggest problem was that the grain on the old wood was too loose to hold the finishing nails I had used to attach the Velcro straps. They ended up moving like flip-flops.

Anyway, it was super-easy to slip these into my backpack and at least try to leave a footprint in some pretty out-of-the-way places. I did this as a proof of concept to see how difficult it would be to engage in some bigfoot-related tomfoolery. My poor craftsmanship notwithstanding, it was pretty darned easy.
 
All bigfoot tracks are either hoaxed or misidentified. Let's not forget that even kids toys these days are mimicking bigfoot tracks. A quick google search should confirm this for you and anyone interested. Several companies make them.

https://www.google.com/search?q=big...a=X&ei=4tJsVI3NKIHlggTDh4P4Cg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw


I'm not worried about my safety. I'd welcome any bigfooter just as any skeptic. There are some interested in the phenomenon that take it beyond that and perhaps could be mentally unstable. Those people would be avoided regardless of any monster interest. I meet strangers every day when traveling. (and sometimes, i really do mean STRANGER in the most literal sense haha)
I consider most of your response to be non sequitur to what I wrote.

Exactly how do you expose the Bigfooter who is using the tracks that you made? After you have done that, exactly how do you prevent the wrath of the Bigfootery Cult from coming down on you personally?
 
I consider most of your response to be non sequitur to what I wrote.

Exactly how do you expose the Bigfooter who is using the tracks that you made? After you have done that, exactly how do you prevent the wrath of the Bigfootery Cult from coming down on you personally?

I may be avoiding some of your question purposely. So you're correct in that I'm not going to give out certain aspects of this. (as to when/where and who may have "discovered" anything) Instead I'd suggest that ALL bigfoot tracks found are either hoaxed or misidentified. I'm giving an example of how easily it can be done with no special skills or artistry. I'm also giving an example of how the same sort of footprints can be found in many locations. It is not difficult to do, or takes any special skills.

As for the "wrath of bigfootery cult" I'm not at all scurd. The pros all know its fake. If someone has a problem with me personally making bigfoot tracks, I'm not hard to find. Come talk to me about it. They may as well hunt down those kids in the google link too. Those dang footprints/dents in the ground are definitely the cause of all eveeeeeel. :cool:
 
I made a pair of stompers using cast-off lumber from an old redwood fence. I cut out some modeling foamboard to make a fairly detailed foot outline (scaled out from a tracing of my own foot) and affixed that to the bottom. As just a wet footprint outline on a hard surface it wasn't too bad, but it looked really stupid in mud or sand. My biggest problem was that the grain on the old wood was too loose to hold the finishing nails I had used to attach the Velcro straps. They ended up moving like flip-flops.

Anyway, it was super-easy to slip these into my backpack and at least try to leave a footprint in some pretty out-of-the-way places. I did this as a proof of concept to see how difficult it would be to engage in some bigfoot-related tomfoolery. My poor craftsmanship notwithstanding, it was pretty darned easy.



This was my whole point. Anyone can do this, and it's not hard to do. It does not take any special skill set. To point at dents in the ground and claim "new species" is at best ridiculous. Especially so when you're trying to say that a non classified bipedal apelike creature that is 7-10 feet tall and weighing 600-1200 lbs left them when in fact a quick google search shows even young children have access to these type of things as toys.
 

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