Concepts: Immunities, Resistances, Allergies?

I am not very sure that my basic ideas got changed, but these came in line/systematic understanding is there. Better try feeling/accepting two way interactions--somewhat alike crude+potencies, not just one in your way, crude, gross, immediate etc. There can be some slow, proressive, long term so chronic effects, which may not look immediately in your quantities but still can be progressive.

Sometimes, I feel that whether effects of highly conentrated chemicals are 'alike foriegn/toxic/confused/shock/unknown effect' as ingested without topical exposure, so not previously/in advance, known to our senses.
 
Incidentally for the newer forum members, just to let you know: Kumar came in the door here more than 18 months ago and the first thing he trotted out was this "silica disease" thingie he has just reiterated here. Suffice to say, we have been through this in excrutiatingly extended detail with him, and it didn't sink in then. It won't sink in now either.

Just letting you know... Carry on!
 
Is there anything which you learned here that you hadn't known before?


All those careful explanations people gave to your questions - was there anything that gave you pleasure because it cleared up something unclear or mistaken in your understanding?
 
flume said:
Is there anything which you learned here that you hadn't known before?


All those careful explanations people gave to your questions - was there anything that gave you pleasure because it cleared up something unclear or mistaken in your understanding?

Yes, a lot in my senses, which may not be in your senses/understanding. Both side should have got many new & dynamic understandings--you be much more than me. But I feel that I could only get--you may not due to 'otherwise'thinkings. Some dynamic understandings are there, which your real inner senses may be telling but your outer senses may not be telling. This real inner senses may mostly be keeping you with me inspite of.....

Few aspects are cleared in my mind in their understandings, but may not have changed in basic sense. The best one may be that, we may need advance

I am bit unclear about potency effect of crudes in case of medicines, which may be working alike shocking/foreign... effect & their sensation in advance may interfere in effecting these as indicated.

Flume, just study "silicea" deeply in this regard.
 
Kumar said:
I am not very sure that my basic ideas got changed,

Thank you. This confirms what I suspected.

Kumar said:
... but these came in line/systematic understanding is there. Better try feeling/accepting two way interactions--somewhat alike crude+potencies, not just one in your way, crude, gross, immediate etc. There can be some slow, proressive, long term so chronic effects, which may not look immediately in your quantities but still can be progressive.

Sometimes, I feel that whether effects of highly conentrated chemicals are 'alike foriegn/toxic/confused/shock/unknown effect' as ingested without topical exposure, so not previously/in advance, known to our senses.

Like I said before...

:hit:

Returning to psuedo-ignore mode.

-TT
 
ThirdTwin said:
Thank you. This confirms what I suspected.



Like I said before...

:hit:

Returning to psuedo-ignore mode.

-TT

Then what?

Ground reflection: Grass, soil and water reflect less than 10% of UV radiation; fresh snow reflects as much as 80%; dry beach sand about 15% and sea foam about 25%.

UV radiation and medicines
A number of drugs, medicines and ointments can make you much more susceptible to sunburn and skin damage from UV radiation. These include some antibiotics, drugs for high blood pressure (antihypertensives), psoralens, some antidepressants, some drugs used to suppress the immune system (for example, in a kidney transplant), and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. There are many others. http://www.publichealthgreybruce.on.ca/Cancer/Sunsense/UV_Radiation.htm
 
Zep said:
Incidentally for the newer forum members, just to let you know: Kumar came in the door here more than 18 months ago and the first thing he trotted out was this "silica disease" thingie he has just reiterated here. Suffice to say, we have been through this in excrutiatingly extended detail with him, and it didn't sink in then. It won't sink in now either.

Just letting you know... Carry on!
Ah, pre-empted by Zep once again.

Searching for posts by Kumar referring to silica, silicea, fluoride and suchlike can be very illuminating. I would especially commend the thread entitled "Cancer assumption" in this respect, containing as it does some of the most amazing ideas about silica being present on or in cancer cells, but scientists not recognising this because silica is glass, therefore it can't be distinguished from the glass of the microscope slide....

There was also a thread about fluoride as a waste product being used to treat water supplies, which Kumar seemed to have pasted from an anti-fluoridation web site, but I can't find that one now. The most relevant fluoride thread available at present seems to be "Let us forget & discuss", where, in December 2003 no less, he posted the following.
Can you please tell about the cycle & physiology OR patho-physiology of three minor elements in body-- fluorine, silicon & sulphur? These may bit less attended elements & so could be interesting to discuss.
And what is all this about? Well, it goes all the way back to Kumar's obsession with Schüssler's tissue salts, as in the end everything always does. One of the theories he originally came to this forum to try to prove was the very original idea that in fact all homoeopathic remedies are actually the tissue salt remedy silicea, and that this in fact is how homoeopathy works - silicea is, in this amazing scenario, the universal cure for everything. And by virtue of being ground up using stone mortars and pestles, and/or being stored in glass bottles, all homoeopathic remedies have this tiny trace of silicea in them, and hey presto, that's the secret of their curative properties. This idea can be seen in one of Kumar's earliest threads, in the very first post, though it didn't actually go anywhere at that point. (I see he even introduced the bit about "old whisky" at that point - pity that indefinite storage in glass bottles doesn't actually alter whisky the tiniest little bit, in fact the aging of whisky is dependent on its being stored in old oak sherry casks, from which it takes on the flavour of the wood and the other spirit.)

The way Kumar keeps coming back to the silicea thing, in this underhand and dishonest way ("Concepts: Immunities, Resistances, Allergies?" indeed!) makes me suspect that he hasn't wavered an inch from this idea, all the time he has been here. This is of course why he's not so popular on homoeopathy boards either. His agenda is aimed at telling them all their 3,000-odd remedies are an illusion, individualisation is a myth, and all homoeopathic remedies are equally and alike the TRS silicea remedy.

In fact one of these threads I linked to has one of the first attempts to get Kumar to go study, go learn, or even go read a book. All to no avail, of course. However, his reason is quite an enlightening one. He's afraid that he might become sceptical, and be forced to change his mind. Which rather begs the question of why he comes here I suppose, but maybe he sees us as less authoritative than books.

Now, I had to take him off ignore in order to link to one of his posts in another thread. Time to go put him back on the good old ignore list.

Rolfe.
 
On being patronised by Kumara

Kumar said:
. . . Both side should have got many new & dynamic understandings--you . . . much more than me. But I feel that I could only get--you may not due to 'otherwise'thinkings. Some dynamic understandings are there, which your real inner senses may be telling but your outer senses may not be telling. This real inner senses may mostly be keeping you with me inspite of..... . . . Flume, just study "silicea" deeply in this regard.

Sometimes it's possible to penetrate Kumara the Great's barbarous mode of expression (and I've never met even a semi-educated Indian who mangled English the way he does), and when you do, you meet this kind of stuff. How do you like the arrogance and conceit underlying his message? It's we who can learn from him; it's our blocked and blinkered minds that can't understand Kumara's deep insights; if we had his "real inner senses," we'd be able to follow the magnificent path of his intellect. The Master directs us to study deeply, so that we can hope, someday, to be worthy of his profundity.

The only impressive thing about Kumara is his ego, in the sense that all gigantic monstrosities have an impact when you finally comprehend their size. He's contrived to erect a genuine monument to ignorance, mortared together with a sneering self-assurance that's truly breathtaking - at least, it makes you hold your breath.
 
Rolfe,

Thanks for giving so much attention towards me. Most people,though contradict me, still feel something differant/real/dynamic in heart, so give this much attention--may be on any side/type. In differance of previous discussions, I got idea bout physical appearance effect as "reflected WLs effect", probably reflected UV rays effects also, I become more informed about scope of Silica/Silicea. Today, some old person told, it was bit common in previous time that ,to benefit TB patients, below air of flying pigeon/birds was beneficial. It may look bit paranormal, but feathers contain silicon, & particle released may be of Silicic acid in homeopathic dose or their reflected light effect.

In some ancient indications there is a curse for present age that

"No learned saint(may be learned/educated) will be able to understand basc knowlede/basic essance of reputed book's/studies due to the effect of Money God/Money"

There are some excepions to it. These are very few--may be mostly with 'O' negative blood group pople(just my feeling). So all should learn from them--althought they may not be entitled to get benefit/fame from that during their lifetime--but after do get.
So just be dynamic. Now flume can try something, you can also try--as you studied physiology/biochemistry. Honest telling for your & other's benefits.
 
Kumar said:
Today, some old person told, it was bit common in previous time that ,to benefit TB patients, below air of flying pigeon/birds was beneficial. It may look bit paranormal, but feathers contain silicon, & particle released may be of Silicic acid in homeopathic dose or their reflected light effect.
Hmmm no. This won't work. At all. Not because of silicon, not because of a homeopathic dose of silicic acid, and certainly net because of the reflected light effect.

In some ancient indications there is a curse for present age that

"No learned saint(may be learned/educated) will be able to understand basc knowlede/basic essance of reputed book's/studies due to the effect of Money God/Money"
Is this your justification for remaining ignorant?

There are some excepions to it. These are very few--may be mostly with 'O' negative blood group pople(just my feeling). So all should learn from them--althought they may not be entitled to get benefit/fame from that during their lifetime--but after do get.
So just be dynamic. Now flume can try something, you can also try--as you studied physiology/biochemistry. Honest telling for your & other's benefits.
What does blood type have to do with understanding books. And, would you happen to be O negative?
 
Donks said:
Hmmm no. This won't work. At all. Not because of silicon, not because of a homeopathic dose of silicic acid, and certainly net because of the reflected light effect.

We might had not yet seem slow, dilute, progressive & long term effects esp. energy/visible WLs based.

Is this your justification for remaining ignorant?

Exception can always be there to go on the show.


What does blood type have to do with understanding books. And, would you happen to be O negative?

It is just a thought. Being special, dificulties in fulfilling future needs & giving tendency--something special can be there in these type.



7% of the population has O negative Blood. People with O negative donors are potential universal red Blood cell donors. This means that their red Blood cells can be transfused to patients with all types of Blood.
http://www.bloodbook.com/type-facts.html
 
Can we think CANCER & other slow & progressive diseases are somewhat Latent diseases/disorders? How these latent conditions & infectons can remain dormant & persist in our bodies? What can be the natural cause for getting these conditions?
 
Kumar said:
it was bit common in previous time that ,to benefit TB patients, below air of flying pigeon/birds was beneficial. It may look bit paranormal, but feathers contain silicon, & particle released may be of Silicic acid in homeopathic dose or their reflected light effect.

I'm sure that's right, and you are absolutely correct about the likely mechanism. Well done.
 
it was bit common in previous time that ,to benefit TB patients, below air of flying pigeon/birds was beneficial. It may look bit paranormal, but feathers contain silicon, & particle released may be of Silicic acid in homeopathic dose or their reflected light effect.
I think that bit is a very clear illustration of Kumar's mode of thinking.

He applies this kind of reverse logic to anything. Camouflaged as questions, he makes statements about his theories, then, when people explain and argue, he simply picks whatever he feels can be construed to support his notions, takes it out of context,and adds it to his theory. Kumar DOES learn from being here; he picks up a lot of nice tidbits that he can cite at his discretion in apparant support of his ideas.

We thought we were educating him, but we were just fortifying his daft beliefs. Like a crow, he picks up anything shiny and adds it to his nest.

If he was able to communicate more efficiently, if his ideas were not so completely idiotic, I would say he was dangerous. As it is, he is merely amusing.


Hans
 
Don't belittle the Corvidae

MRC_Hans said:
. . . Like a crow, he picks up anything shiny and adds it to his nest. . . .

You're being too hard on crows. They build good solid nests and use them effectively to raise their young. Their liking for shiny objects is a sign of a discriminating intelligence, and merits study.

Put another way, the wonders of nature deserve our respect. The wonders of Kumar are another matter.

Well, Kumara, whaddya say to this?
 
Lung cancer is associated with occupational exposures to crystalline silica specifically quartz and cristobalite. An exposure-response relationship has been reported in studies of miners, diatomaceous earth workers, granite workers, pottery workers, refractory brick workers, and other workers

Several epidemiological studies have reported statistically significant numbers of excess deaths or cases of immunologic disorders and autoimmune diseases in silica-exposed workers. These diseases and disorders include scleroderma, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus, and sarcoidosis.

Recent epidemiological studies have reported statistically significant associations of occupational exposure to crystalline silica with renal diseases and subclinical renal changes

Crystalline silica may affect the immune system, leading to mycobacterial infections (tuberculous and nontuberculous) or fungal, especially in workers with silicosis.

Occupational exposure to breathable crystalline silica is associated with bronchitis, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and emphysema. Some epidemiologic studies suggest that these health effects may be less frequent or absent in nonsmokers.
http://www.lenntech.com/Periodic-chart-elements/Si-en.htm
 
(Kumar posts article about the dangers of exposure to SiO2, aka silica)

Kumar, did you have a point to make or a question about that article?

And what does this article about SiO2 have to do with silicon (your semiconductor thread) or "silicea"? What is "silicea"?

Do you think these are all the same things because of the common "sil" root? Then perhaps you would be interested in this substance:
http://www.wcsscience.com/silly/putty.html
 
Like I said, "silicea" is homoeopathic (or Tissue Remedies) silica, and Kumar believes that it is the great cure-all of all time.

Correction, Kumar knows it is the great cure-all of all time, and nothing will alter this opinion. He simply lacks the scientific knowledge to be able to figure out the mechanism of this wonderful effect, and he came to this board to ask us to do this research for him.

This was the intent on day 1, and it's still the case. He just finds more and more devious ways of coming round to the subject, while appearing to start a thread about something else.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
This was the intent on day 1, and it's still the case. He just finds more and more devious ways of coming round to the subject, while appearing to start a thread about something else.

Rolfe.
It's rather spectacular, ain't it? I had never seen such creativity and determination wasted in such a manner.
 

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