Common Sense

[LashL]

spielberg i'm not but i thought i'd have a go ;-]

ETA i took the animated gif off here. i think it was slowing down the page loading don't want to incur the wrath of the mightymod




BV

Bonavada, that is hilarious! I first saw your post while at work this afternoon (shhhh!) but could not view the video from work, and was looking forward to seeing it tonight from home. It was well worth the wait ~ good work!!

 

[HeyLeroy]

(snip) I only use REAL physical evidence i.e. VIDEO FOOTAGE OF FIREFIGHTERS SAYING BOMBS WERE IN THE WTC 7 (snip)

I only use REAL physical evidence to make up my wild-ass speculations:

(snip)

I'm biting my tongue on this one... the firefighters were obviously told by their superiors that bombs were in WTC 7... OKAY? You with me so far? NOW... how does that mean they knew about the plot of 9/11? They were simply taking orders and doing their job.

 

[332nd]

Oh wait... you don't live in the real world... you live in a virtual world of speculation. I live in the real world, where I only use REAL physical evidence i.e. VIDEO FOOTAGE OF FIREFIGHTERS SAYING BOMBS WERE IN THE WTC 7 - to piece my case together.... you on the other hand... use myopic reasoning... generated from naive beliefs and limited imagination - to form your theories.

Yet you don't use any video footage that has the sound of the charges going off. Why?

 

[JimBenArm]

I apologize guys... this level of willful ignorance is sinful.

Yet you continue to do it.

 

[Tirdun]

28th Kingdom, You are a troll.

Your slander of FDNY is intolerable and disgusting.
You've labeled them graverobbers and murderers and have posted nonsense as evidence.

Good bye.

User CP -> Buddy / Ignore Lists -> Lower Textbox -> 28th Kingdom -> Save List

 

[28th Kingdom]

so how did the firefighters superiors (who are also firefighters BTW) know there were bombs? at some point someone must have firsthand knowledge of explosive devices, and since they havent mentioned in the 5 years since i woudl say they have some explaining to do

Maybe the superiors were told of the bombs by the Fire Department Commander...who spoke to the owner of WTC 7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A

Maybe... you are naive and don't know how the media suppresses information.... or how basic human psychology works. Why hasn't the firefighters talked? Maybe they haven't pieced it together... maybe they fear being ridiculed and losing their jobs... you do realize that it's legal for you to be arrested simply for speaking out against the official story, right?

Oh... please, don't argue that point - you're al Qaeda if you claim the government is behind 9/11 - it's all written in the acts and handbooks. Remember, Bush clearly told us...

"You're either with us... or you're with the terrorists."

Pretty strong words.. don't you think? The laws are starting to reflect this statement wherein.. any public descent from government policy/action is now being viewed and treated as terroristic threats.

But... not to worry... you'll have your martial law soon enough... where they can arrest you on the streets without reason... detain you indefinitely (forever) or proceed to execute you without justification.

Good Times.

 

[332nd]

Maybe the superiors were told of the bombs by the Fire Department Commander...who spoke to the owner of WTC 7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A

Maybe... you are naive and don't know how the media suppresses information.... or how basic human psychology works. Why hasn't the firefighters talked? Maybe they haven't pieced it together... maybe they fear being ridiculed and losing their jobs... you do realize that it's legal for you to be arrested simply for speaking out against the official story, right?

Oh... please, don't argue that point - you're al Qaeda if you claim the government is behind 9/11 - it's all written in the acts and handbooks. Remember, Bush clearly told us...

"You're either with us... or you're with the terrorists."

Pretty strong words.. don't you think? The laws are starting to reflect this statement wherein.. any public descent from government policy/action is now being viewed and treated as terroristic threats.

But... not to worry... you'll have your martial law soon enough... where they can arrest you on the streets without reason... detain you indefinitely (forever) then proceed to execute you without justification.

Good Times.

Really? How many were arrested during the 9/11 truther "Boston Tea Party"? When has Alex Jones, Steven Jones, Dylan Avery been arrested?

BTW: You seem reluctant to address the issue of why none of the audio equipment picked up the sounds of the "explosives".

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Maybe the superiors were told of the bombs by the Fire Department Commander...who spoke to the owner of WTC 7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A

I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.

larry says the fire department commander (and presumably others within the fire department) made the decision to "pull"

so who was involved again?

Maybe they haven't pieced it together...

"they told me bombs...then they say no bombs"

yeah, that could take a while to work out

maybe they fear being ridiculed and losing their jobs...

after 9/11 i dont think a new york firefighter could have been ridiculed for anything

you do realize that it's legal for you to be arrested simply for speaking out against the official story, right?

and thats why you, dylan avery, alex jones, steven jones, james fetzer, judy wood and every other member of the truth movement are behind bars, right?

however, you CAN have a civil suit filed against you for libel (that being your implied accusation of larry silverstein of terrorism and insurance fraud)

 

[stateofgrace]

Maybe the superiors were told of the bombs by the Fire Department Commander...who spoke to the owner of WTC 7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A

Maybe... you are naive and don't know how the media suppresses information.... or how basic human psychology works. Why hasn't the firefighters talked? Maybe they haven't pieced it together... maybe they fear being ridiculed and losing their jobs... you do realize that it's legal for you to be arrested simply for speaking out against the official story, right?

.

I apologies to all for this.

You are a pathetic disgusting obscene paranoid idiot who is accusing the FDNY and those who tried to help of being involved in covering up mass murder.

You make me sick. You are absolute scum of the earth.

 

[JimBenArm]

Really? How many were arrested during the 9/11 truther "Boston Tea Party"? When has Alex Jones, Steven Jones, Dylan Avery been arrested?

BTW: You seem reluctant to address the issue of why none of the audio equipment picked up the sounds of the "explosives".

You know, he really seems to think it would be us that would get locked up, instead of him, if all these dire things were to happen.

But logic (and truth) are foreign concepts to him.

 

[twinstead]

Maybe the superiors were told of the bombs by the Fire Department Commander...who spoke to the owner of WTC 7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A

Maybe... you are naive and don't know how the media suppresses information.... or how basic human psychology works. Why hasn't the firefighters talked? Maybe they haven't pieced it together... maybe they fear being ridiculed and losing their jobs... you do realize that it's legal for you to be arrested simply for speaking out against the official story, right?

Oh... please, don't argue that point - you're al Qaeda if you claim the government is behind 9/11 - it's all written in the acts and handbooks. Remember, Bush clearly told us...

"You're either with us... or you're with the terrorists."

Pretty strong words.. don't you think? The laws are starting to reflect this statement wherein.. any public descent from government policy/action is now being viewed and treated as terroristic threats.

But... not to worry... you'll have your martial law soon enough... where they can arrest you on the streets without reason... detain you indefinitely (forever) or proceed to execute you without justification.

Good Times.

BS. You are basically saying that for fear of a job, or fear of being arrested, EVERYBODY involved in the 'plot' refuses to come clean about the murder of 3000 people by their government. In the case of firemen, their brothers.

You are calling everybody who might even have a hint of REAL evidence (you know, like the kind you DON'T have) cowards. You are implying that nobody would ever put themselves in danger to uncover a plot so heinous. A plot to murder of 3000 innocent civilians.

Disgusting!

I say NO WAY. I say you are so totally wrong in your assessment of 'basic human psychology' as to be ludicrous.

You have a dim view of humanity, and a cynical, unrealistic, and ideologically biased view of the world. You are basically a disgusting low life.

And I don't care if you have me on ignore and never see this, people need to know how vile you really are.

 

[LashL]

No... you need to defend all three of the rescue workers who said the building was going to blow up... and the other one who proclaimed that the building was about to come down. Now you tell me... how do you predict when a building is gonna come down without knowing it is being blown up? And, then defend these two firefighters who say, "There's a bomb in the building - start clearing out" and "We got a secondary device in the building"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvMABQHSS40

Also... these rescue workers were not apart of the 9/11 plot and did not cover it up. Read my other posts where I explain this...

Hate to break it to you, 28th, but that video is not in relation to building 7. It's in relation to a school where the firefighters had set up a temporary center. Called something like Stuyvesant (sp) and not at the World Trade Center complex at all.

Sheesh.

Edit to add: oh, and it was because of a false report of a bomb in the school. There was none found and the school did not collapse.

 

[The Almond]

Maybe... you are naive and don't know how the media suppresses information....

I know how Dylan Avery and the Loose Changers supress information. They quote mine, disregard contrary evidence, fabricate, lie, obfusticate, imply and resort to ad homenim attacks when presented with facts. They're also fans of banning opposing viewpoints. I suppose it's a lot like putting people on ignore when you can't respond to their posts with facts, logic and insight.

or how basic human psychology works.

Since when did you become educated on basic human psychology? Or are you a self-declared googlexpert?

Why hasn't the firefighters talked? Maybe they haven't pieced it together...

So you're accusing them of being stupid.

maybe they fear being ridiculed and losing their jobs...

Now you're accusing them of being money grubbing cowards. Do you place your job above the virtues of truth, justice and reason? Why should you expect them to?

you do realize that it's legal for you to be arrested simply for speaking out against the official story, right?

Dylan Avery, Jim Fetzer, Judy Wood. Why haven't they been arrested yet? Or are you going to conceed that this is a blatantly false statement?

Oh... please, don't argue that point - you're al Qaeda if you claim the government is behind 9/11 - it's all written in the acts and handbooks. Remember, Bush clearly told us...

Al Qaeda? You mean the innocent/imaginary group that the Bush Administration is framing for the 9/11 attacks? How could it possibly be bad to be declared innocent of all charges? Or do you not really believe the things you type?

But... not to worry... you'll have your martial law soon enough... where they can arrest you on the streets without reason... detain you indefinitely (forever) or proceed to execute you without justification.

Paranoia. Or do you have a little crystal ball that allows you to predict the future?

 

[ConspiRaider]

But... not to worry... you'll have your martial law soon enough... where they can arrest you on the streets without reason... detain you indefinitely (forever) or proceed to execute you without justification.

Good Times.

Not really worried. I mean things are outta hand someone's gotta do sumpin. And the gubmint is Big and Strong, both.

Do you know if they like give you a choice of being detained (forever) or executed without justification? I'm probably gonna come down on the side of detained (forever). Like I never saw all the episodes of X-files and I heard they got reruns of all of them in SuperMax TV? Got some catchin' up to do...

 

[CHF]

you do realize that it's legal for you to be arrested simply for speaking out against the official story, right?

Poor Dylan Avery....rotting in jail simply for speaking his mind. And Alex Jones - he was executed, right?

In fact, I myself disagree with the government story - the part where "they hate us because of our freedoms."

I guess I'd better watch my back, huh?

Meanwhile, back on planet earth, I'm still waiting to hear those 9/11 demo charges goin off.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

maybe they fear being ridiculed and losing their jobs...

oh yeah, forgot this part

afraid of losing their jobs? firefighters risk their LIVES every single day, why would they be afraid of losing their jobs to uncover the truth about the murder of 300 of their brothers?

 

[volatile]

Maybe the superiors were told of the bombs by the Fire Department Commander...who spoke to the owner of WTC 7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A

http://911myths.com/html/wtc7_pulled.html

Maybe... you are naive and don't know how the media suppresses information....

Did you hear about when Fox news tried to supress a journalistic story about safety issues connected to Monstanto BGH in milk? The journalists resigned, made a huge stink, and took Fox to court.

Did you hear about the BSE crisis in the UK? The government tried to covered up certain details, but were found out.

Did you hear about the sinking of the rainbow warrior? The French government were found out.

Did you hear about Watergate? Nixon got impeached.

Did you hear about Mordechai Vanunu, who leaked Israel's nuclear secrets to the UK as a matter of conscience?

All conspiracies, all blown apart by honest testimony or decent investigation. Vanunu's case shows that even a mighty government can be exposed by a single whistleblower. Ditto the Nixo administration and Deep Throat.

How did your huge conspiracy survive 5 years without a single crack?

 

[Alt+F4]

. the firefighters were obviously told by their superiors that bombs were in WTC 7... OKAY? You with me so far? NOW... how does that mean they knew about the plot of 9/11? They were simply taking orders and doing their job.

AND who were they taking their orders from? Their FDNY superiors, of course! So your are still saying the FDNY was in on it, but now your implicating FDNY brass rather then the rank and file firefighters.

AND don't bother saying that the FDNY firefighters were getting their orders from anyone other than their FDNY superiors, it doesn't work that way.

AND, I'm not getting my information from some lame video, I'm from an FDNY family.

 

[28th Kingdom]

and thats why you, dylan avery, alex jones, steven jones, james fetzer, judy wood and every other member of the truth movement are behind bars, right?

How predictable is that?

however, you CAN have a civil suit filed against you for libel (that being your implied accusation of larry silverstein of terrorism and insurance fraud)

Now... I'm gonna use your words against you... Why do you think no one has sued Alex Jones for libel and/or slander? I mean have you heard the unambiguous claims he has made not only against organizations but specific individuals? Do you know how easy it would be for these powerful persons/entities to file a lawsuit against Alex Jones? At the very least they could make his life a living hell by tying him up in court...and swamping him in debt with legal fees, so why hasn't anyone done this?

I MEAN HAVE YOU HEARD SOME OF THE THINGS ALEX JONES HAS SAID? The CIA imports most of the drugs into the country... DynCorp, Halliburton and the UN run child prostitution rings... hmmm, maybe there is some truth to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DynCorp#Sex_slavery

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070106/ap_on_re_eu/un_sex_abuse

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/race_relations/july-dec96/cia_11-18.html

 

[aggle-rithm]

I apologize guys... but, I have to put some more of you on ignore... because I will be suspended or banned... if I have to continue reading this mindless drivel. I mean really... this level of willful ignorance is sinful.

Way to dominate, 28Virgins.