Common Sense

[28th Kingdom]

Do we have to tie you down in a skyscraper and run a plane into it for your five senses finally get it?

Well, actually...a visual simulation of the WTC collapses would be a good first step. You know... it's only one of the most unique and mysterious structural failures in the history of the world... it would be nice if they (NIST) took the time to demonstrate their theories.

 

[babazaroni]

Well, actually...a visual simulation of the WTC collapses would be a good first step. You know... it's only one of the most unique and mysterious structural failures in the history of the world... it would be nice if they (NIST) took the time to demonstrate their theories.

I'd like to see that as well.

Wonder if some grad student somewhere can steal some supercomputer time to render a collapse.

 

[The Almond]

Cool... well tell me how many we have... I'm really interested in this type of thing. And, link me to some literature, cus I'd like to read about it.

Thanks.

Proprioception
Equilibrioception
Synestesia

Google, 30 seconds. Research is your friend.

 

[CHF]

Well, actually...a visual simulation of the WTC collapses would be a good first step. You know... it's only one of the most unique and mysterious structural failures in the history of the world... it would be nice if they (NIST) took the time to demonstrate their theories.

Apparently twoofers need Dora the Explorer to slowly explain engineering matters to them. And if da twoofers don't understand it...well then there MUST be something wrong with it.

 

[LashL]

How can I disprove something that is beyond my senses? I can't... I can neither prove it nor disprove it... that's why the million dollar challenge (according to what I know of it) seems to be a paradoxical impossibility.

How can you scientifically prove something that is scientifically unprovable? That is... how can you make something that is beyond the senses (paranormal) appear before the senses? If that happened, than the experience wouldn't be paranormal anymore... hence the paradox.

Is Randi looking for verifiable proof/evidence that something exists outside of the 5 sensory world?

Well... let me present my application. Do you have thoughts? There is your proof. Thoughts are a psychic ability that creates a communication link between the immaterial and material worlds. This paranormal activity i.e. thoughts - is experienced beyond all of our senses... and the physical (scientifically measurable) world.

If my winnings are paid out in the form of a check... please make it out to cash.

Toodles.

As I said, you're a fraud. You said you would respond to R. Mackey's posts and then you failed and refused to do so, as usual. You spout nothing but nonsense.

You are probably the only person here who cannot grasp the simplest of high school physics, and yet you pretend to have superior knowledge beyond that of actual experts (including those in this very forum) and you consistently and repeatedly refuse to substantiate your outrageous claims, which are obviously made on the basis of nothing but a poor education, over-exposure to conspiracy websites inhabited by nutcases, and, of course, your advanced degree in woo.

You're a fraud, 28th, plain and simple.

Everything you have written (or copied and pasted) in this thread, including your post just quoted, leads to that simple, unavoidable conclusion.

Again, either put up or shut up.

 

[28th Kingdom]

Close your eyes. Move your left arm into some position. With your eyes closed, point to your left arm using your right hand. How did you do that?

http://www.answers.com/topic/proprioception

That perception is part of the sixth sense. The sixth sense is an all inclusive perception that includes everything beyond the 5 senses.

 

[R.Mackey]

Well, actually...a visual simulation of the WTC collapses would be a good first step. You know... it's only one of the most unique and mysterious structural failures in the history of the world... it would be nice if they (NIST) took the time to demonstrate their theories.

By extrapolation, I suppose this means 28^th Kingdom believes that science began in about 1976, when computer visualization began to become practical.

By further extrapolation, as few science concepts are taught with visualization, particularly in the primary school system, we presume he's never passed a science class in his life.

Archimedes is laughing at you, pal. As is da Vinci, Galileo, Newton, Stokes, Green, Gauss, Kelvin, Hooke, Leibniz, Maxwell, Einstein, Bohr, Schrodinger, Fermi, Feynman, Oppenheimer, and all the rest... Take a bow!

 

[The Almond]

That perception is part of the sixth sense. The sixth sense is an all inclusive perception that includes everything beyond the 5 senses.

Care to quote a reliable psychological resource on that? My sources state that the concept of a 6th sense is entirely linked to the paranormal, and no scientist believes Proprioception, Equilibrioception or Synestesia to be extra sensory in any way. Nice try, though.

 

[Skibum]

Cool... well tell me how many we have... I'm really interested in this type of thing. And, link me to some literature, cus I'd like to read about it.

Thanks.

I see what your problem is. You need to be led by the hand and spoon fed the information, because even in the case of something that really interests you, you won't take the time to go and study about it on your own. Instead of a quick google search, you have to be led to the info.

Maybe thats why conspiracy theories seem so prevalent, because folks like LTW are willing to lead nitwits by the hand and spoonfeed them whatever info they want them to hear. They know the nitwits won't take the time to figure out on their own that they are being lied to.

 

[Spindrift]

Well, actually...a visual simulation of the WTC collapses would be a good first step. You know... it's only one of the most unique and mysterious structural failures in the history of the world... it would be nice if they (NIST) took the time to demonstrate their theories.

Unique? Yes.

Mysterious? Not really. You might not have noticed but a plane crashed into each of the towers. Big planes. Full of fuel. Planes go boom. Buildings burn. Steel weaken. Buildings fall down.

 

[Paul]

That perception is part of the sixth sense. The sixth sense is an all inclusive perception that includes everything beyond the 5 senses.

So, we've found something else you are entirely ignorant about.

What makes proprioception paranormal? How about thermoception, nociception or equilibrioception?

 

[aggle-rithm]

I could speculate...one of the 100 different ways they might of executed the demolition... but, of course, I don't know the exact details...

Talk about a failure of imagination. He pulled the whacky CT theory out of his nether regions, but now he can't make up the details? Pathetic.

 

[Horatius]

Well, actually...a visual simulation of the WTC collapses would be a good first step. You know... it's only one of the most unique and mysterious structural failures in the history of the world... it would be nice if they (NIST) took the time to demonstrate their theories.

Even if we produced a "visual simulation" of the collapse, how would you know it was accurate? We could slap any old crap together, and you wouldn't be able to tell, because you lack any fundamental understanding of the underlying science. So really, what would this prove, other than the fact that you can be mesmerized by pretty pictures?

 

[28th Kingdom]

Proprioception, Equilibrioception, Synestesia

Google, 30 seconds. Research is your friend.

Synesthesia is a unique blend of the five senses... and the other two are not senses we use to directly experience the material world... actually... these senses are more sixth sense or an illusion altogether... caused by the interaction between our bodies and gravitational forces. In the vacuum of deep space... these senses wouldn't even exist.

 

[Skibum]

So, we've found something else you are entirely ignorant about.

Big surprise there, I'm certain we could find at least one topic per day that he is totally ignorant about, yet is willing to prattle on and on about.

 

[Skibum]

In the vacuum of deep space... these senses wouldn't even exist.

Nor would smell, does that mean smell is not one of our senses?

 

[Horatius]

Archimedes is laughing at you, pal. As is da Vinci, Galileo, Newton, Stokes, Green, Gauss, Kelvin, Hooke, Leibniz, Maxwell, Einstein, Bohr, Schrodinger, Fermi, Feynman, Oppenheimer, and all the rest... Take a bow!

And if you can't recognize more that 6 or 7 of these guys without Google, you don't know jack about real physics.

 

[Mr.D]

How can I disprove something that is beyond my senses? I can't... I can neither prove it nor disprove it

Interesting. Let's apply your principle to something else you said.

We already know that invisible forces (beyond the 5 senses) can move physical objects. Just go play with some magnets and you will espy that.

What are these things "magnets" of which you speak? Since by your own admission you cannot sense their "invisible forces," you should not speak of them as if you know such things exist.

Your world must be a confusing place full of miracles.

Do you put food in a microwave and just hope it gets hotter?

Do you pay your cell phone company for providing a service that they cannot prove to your satisfaction actually works.

Better be careful about listening to the radio. How do you know the "transmissions" are really coming from where they claim?

Be careful of the so-called "Oxygen" scam - paramedics may one day try to administer some to you. Refuse them because it looks, smells, tastes, feels and sounds just like regular air

Hey, just how much time do you spend posting messages for people you have never seen, heard, smelled, touched or tasted (ewww)? Conversing with people you cannot prove exists seems pretty psychotic to me.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Hahahaha - I'm so entertaining.

That's the first thing he's said that I agree with.

 

[Horatius]

Synesthesia is a unique blend of the five senses... and the other two are not senses we use to directly experience the material world... actually... these senses are more sixth sense or an illusion altogether... caused by the interaction between our bodies and gravitational forces. In the vacuum of deep space... these senses wouldn't even exist.

Except for the fact that even a lack of gravity can be detected:

Most astronauts find that their sense of balance is impaired when in orbit, because they are in a constant state of free-fall while their rockets are off. This causes a form of motion sickness called space sickness.

The fact that we perceive this lack in an unpleasant manner is irrelevant. We still know when we're falling.

-1 for 28th.