Common Sense

[28th Kingdom]

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I'm gonna reply to everything you said in your last post... but I need to ask something first... and I'm being serious, so please don't brush it off or be sarcastic... but are you government employed? Honestly... do you work in law enforcement, the military or some other branch of the government... I just want to know before we continue.

 

[Pardalis]

From Tamara de Lempicka.

It is the portrait of Marjorie Ferry.

I didn't know her, love it. Thanks!

 

[Skibum]

Maybe you need to tell this building...that it was suppose to completely collapse, since half of it is missing.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4847/ntp10ini8.jpg

Pssst, totally different building design, totally different situation.

 

[Pardalis]

I'm gonna reply to everything you said in your last post... but I need to ask something first... and I'm being serious, so please don't brush it off or be sarcastic... but are you government employed? Honestly... do you work in law enforcement, the military or some other branch of the government... I just want to know before we continue.

And you're a limo driver, what difference does it make?

 

[28th Kingdom]

Pssst, totally different building design, totally different situation.

Pssst, maybe you should address my reply to your post... you know the one that mentions the speed at which the towers fell... you know the simple scientific equation that easily debunks NIST's theory.

 

[R.Mackey]

I'm gonna reply to everything you said in your last post... but I need to ask something first... and I'm being serious, so please don't brush it off or be sarcastic... but are you government employed? Honestly... do you work in law enforcement, the military or some other branch of the government... I just want to know before we continue.

I am a civilian contractor working for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. If that rankles your paranoia, too bad. Everything I've said is independently verifiable.

 

[Bell]

Pssst, maybe you should address my reply to your post... you know the one that mentions the speed at which the towers fell... you know the simple scientific equation that easily debunks NIST's theory.

Common Sense + ALL CAPS CONSPIRACY THEORY = NIST is wrong

 

[Pardalis]

28th... stop... how could the building... support... the falling... top section... ?... stop

 

[babazaroni]

Common Sense + ALL CAPS CONSPIRACY THEORY = NIST is wrong

You forgot to multiply by paranoia.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Someone ask the idiot if he understands the middle third rule.




That should puzzle him.





For the rest of you, it's not hugely relevant but will show his ignorance. Essentially what is says is that the moment the centre of gravity moves outside the middle third of the structure's width, then it will be unable to take the loads and collapse.

Such collapses are invariably straight downwards. Why? Because the change in the centre of gravity and thus the joints/connections/whatever means they exceed design capacity and fail.

Generally.

This is an argument I've tried with troofers a few times, always to howls of laughter from those who rely too much on common sense. (Thanks for the technical term for this rule, by the way.) However, even common sense tells you that if a skyscraper is tilted at, say, a 20-degree angle, it can't possibly stay intact unless it has additional supports added (at great expense, of course) to withstand the diagonal loads. Still, the only purpose of this would be to keep the structure intact until it hit the ground, or, most likely, crash into another building. What would be the point of that?

 

[Arus808]

Pssst, maybe you should address my reply to your post... you know the one that mentions the speed at which the towers fell... you know the simple scientific equation that easily debunks NIST's theory.

psst.. maybe yous should 'unignore' those that have answered your questions.

 

[Bell]

You forgot to multiply by paranoia.

I keep forgetting that. Where do I have to put that in the equation again?

 

[Lisa Simpson]

Posts concerning the scale of the WTC have been moved here.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[28th Kingdom]

The speed at which the buildings fell IS the speed at which they fell, Doctor 28IQ. Which law of physics is being defied?

Is this just a game to you? What kind of statement is that? The buildings fell at the speed they fell... thus it's scientifically possible for them to fall that fast right? I mean... are you kidding though... I really don't know anymore. Yes, the buildings fell at the speed they fell... and since we have laws that determine how fast things can fall... we can use that to prove why the towers couldn't have fallen as fast as they did without a synthetic catalyst.

Free fall speeds are NOT common sense, Doctor 28IQ. The vast vast vast majority of common folk - keepers of common sense - have no clue concerning freefall speeds of ANYTHING. Let alone giant skyscrapers.

I didn't say they were common sense... I said that once armed with the knowledge of free falls speeds and what they are... then we can use common sense to apply this piece of knowledge to the tower collapses to deduce that they couldn't have fallen as fast as they did. Why? Because that would mean this steel structured building not only failed... but offered virtually no resistance. 10 floors failing per second... that's fast.

The only way the buildings could have fallen "faster than freefall speed" is if a force other than gravity was acting upon them, from the top down.

Not true... the floors were simply exploding from the top in a downward sequential pattern... really just a simple illusion. Nothing was collapsing... the upper mass was falling, and the lower floors were being blown up in a linear fashion top to bottom.

 

[Skibum]

Pssst, maybe you should address my reply to your post... you know the one that mentions the speed at which the towers fell... you know the simple scientific equation that easily debunks NIST's theory.

Why, the answers were given by others before I had a chance, I will not reanswer a question that has already been answered to my satisfaction.
It's not my problem that you choose to ignore so many people that you miss those answers.

 

[Architect]

This is liking watching a car crash......it's horrible, but you cannae take yer eyes off it! Are there no circumstances in which 28th will actually provide a meaningful, reasoned argument?!

 

[28th Kingdom]

Posts concerning the scale of the WTC have been moved here.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

Wow... thank you for doing that... we need more of this type of moderation.

 

[Oliver]

Wow... thank you for doing that... we need more of this type of moderation.

...at the Loose Change Forum. *Fixed*

 

[Bell]

Wow... thank you for doing that... we need more of this type of moderation.

Nope, you dimwit, I requested the posts to be moved because I wanted to get them attention on their own. Not that you will read this, since I'm on your ignorant list. But FYI for the other members here.

 

[A W Smith]

Not true... the floors were simply exploding from the top down in a downward sequential pattern... really just a simple illusion. Nothing was collapsing... the upper mass was falling, and the lower floors were being blown up in a linear fashion top to bottom.

let me fix that quote for you

Not true >>> the floors were simply exploding from the top down in a downward sequential pattern... really just a simple illusion. Nothing was collapsing... the upper mass was falling, and the lower floors were being blown up in a linear fashion top to bottom