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Common Sense

natureboy said:
UK dave said,

"Likewise, certain CTers can only relate the collapse of the WTC towers to videos of demolitions they have seen because they lack the imagination to understand the power of gravity and the forces acting upon the buildings."
and,
"Common sense tells them that the buildings had to have been brought down by explosives because that is how you bring down buildings,"

I say, no no!

Common sense tells ME that the buildings had to have been brought down by explosives because that is how THEY FELL DOWN! freefall speed!
not " because that is how you bring down buildings"

I say, having a fertile imagination is a good thing UK dave but,

no imagination is needed when analysing the collapse of any building collapse time! as a matter of fact....its bad.look what its done to you!

The Law of gravity is immutable!

when I was in high school I learned some basic physics....

Gallileo Gallileli? dropped a BIG BALL and a LITTLE BALL from the leaning tower of pizza....(he rolled em down a ramp) or "something of that sort" anyway.... from him we learned that gravity accelerates all objects downward (regardless of mass) at the same rate!.. 32ft/sec or so.

thusly, when we find out that the twin towers collapsed at freefall speed(at sea level atmospheric conditions) right down through 80 or 90 floors or so (that should have provided resistance even if they were just hanging there with skinny wires that would break if you dropped a feather on them) our common sense tells us....that something aint right.

why dont you use that wonderful imagination of yours...

imagine those world trade center floors,... 80-90 floors or so all held in place with glass truss brackets that would break if you jumped up and down too hard,... as fragile as you wanna make it(in your imaginitive little head)

then do the math (no imagining here though)

funny, when I do the math I keep coming up with a whole lot more than twelve seconds....a whole lot more!!!

you must have a really good imagination to have no questions about the world trade center collapses.
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:socks:
 
natureboy said:
thusly, when we find out that the twin towers collapsed at freefall speed(at sea level atmospheric conditions) right down through 80 or 90 floors or so (that should have provided resistance even if they were just hanging there with skinny wires that would break if you dropped a feather on them) our common sense tells us....that something aint right.
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So, how did you time the collapse? Seriously, what did you use as the start point, and end point? How long did it take?

why dont you use that wonderful imagination of yours...

imagine those world trade center floors,... 80-90 floors or so all held in place with glass truss brackets that would break if you jumped up and down too hard,... as fragile as you wanna make it(in your imaginitive little head)

then do the math (no imagining here though)


funny, when I do the math I keep coming up with a whole lot more than twelve seconds....a whole lot more!!!
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Let's see your calculations.

Also, why did the debris outside fall faster than the main body, if it fell at "free fall"?

you must have a really good imagination to have no questions about the world trade center collapses.
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No, just a firm grasp on how it really happened.
 
It's just a plot to make people think I'm Welsh and search for our Sooper Sekrit base inside a dormant Volcano in the Rhonda.



That's why we've set Torchwood in Wales, too.........
 
28th Kingdom said:
Okay, documented history... the founders of America slaughtered innocent indians and stole their land. Americans have a history of terrorist activity... History shows us that great powers are invariably corrupt and evil. The US is the richest and most powerful nation in the history of the world... 1 + 1 =
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Classic stuff, been listening to your leader,Fetzer?

He is an idiot also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGWYyKNTPEc

I just like posting this to show you how stupid he really is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDyB9BcKsA
 
StateofGrace

Does "jockland" refer to my home country or that weird term you guys use for sportsmen?
 
28th Kingdom said:
The reason none of you left-brain radicals have any common sense, is because you lack imagination, which is at the heart of functioning common sense. (sadly, for you guys/gals - this creative component of imaginary lives in the right-side of the brain)
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Hmmm, Kevin Barrett made a similar comment the other day:

Scientists aren't necessarily the best people to look at this footage and understand what they are seeing. Why? Because many scientists, especially engineers tend to be left hemisphere people. They're linear thinkers, they are very very good at following a linear path of logic, but it terms of looking at a picture and understand what they are seeing, that is a right brain and that is actually a function that artists are better at than scientists. For that reason, one would expect that engineers, subject to cognitive dissonance that we are all subject to, would in examining this event be very likely to fall into a linear track of thought that would be essentially trying to show that it could have happened the way the government said it did.
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I found it similarly unconvincing. Indeed, it's akin to saying that those same engineers are more qualified to judge art than actual artists. Common sense, which you laud so much, tells us that engineers are more qualified to judge engineering questions and artists are more qualified to judge matters related to art.
 
28th Kingdom said:
...Now, does everyone (CTist and/or Gov Shills) believe that planted explosives could have brought down the towers? Yes. Had explosives ever brought down a steel structured high-rise pre 9/11? Yes. Had a plane impact ever brought down a steel structured high-rise pre 9/11? No. Had a fire ever brought down a steel-structured high-rise pre 9/11? No. Had hurricane-like (debris) exterior damage ever made a steel-structured high-rise totally collapse in a symmetrical fashion at quasi-free fall speeds? No.

What are the odds that 19 amateur pilots with box cutters and plastic knives could have hijacked four commercial airliners with a 100% success rate, and then proceeded to maneuver these aircraft (past the world's most elite and advanced military defense system) to three exact destinations while hitting 100% of their targets? 1 in an inconceivable number

What are the odds that Israel, backed with the fourth largest funded military in the world, could have had some agents plant explosives in a privately owned building complex, that is owned by a Zionist? 1 in 1

What are the odds that elements (the highest ranking officials) within the USG government could hand down orders that effectively disarm NORAD? 1 in 1

What are the odds that a commercial size airliner can be hijacked via remote control and flown to exact locations. 1 in 1

Another technology devised by the U.S. military for remote control of huge airplanes is named Global Hawk. On April 24, 2001, four months before "'9/11,'" Britain's International Television News reported: "A robot plane has made aviation history by becoming the first unmanned aircraft to fly across the Pacific Ocean."

The former Minister of Technology said: '"The Americans had developed a method in the 1970s, whereby they could rescue hijacked planes by intervening into the computer piloting."'

http://www.911review.com/means/remotecontrol.html


Now... start piecing everything together... and then tell me which theory is more far fetched.
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Damn, you are entertaining!
 
natureboy said:
funny, when I do the math I keep coming up with a whole lot more than twelve seconds....a whole lot more!!!
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Let's see your calculations. And wash your socks, please. They're stinky.
 
natureboy,

You might want to look at the comprehensive posts on the "Did Bush etc" thread in response to the claims Non-Believer made, then come back and speak to us again.
 
28th Kingdom said:
So what makes the - 9/11 is an Inside Job Belief - such an unbelievable one? Tell me... logistically - why it was impossible for Israel and the US to pull off 9/11.

We're not talking about the specifics of the execution of operation 9/11 i.e. star wars beams and holographic wings.

I am asking what makes it impossible for professionally trained military agents to plant explosives in buildings...

What makes it impossible for explosives to bring down high-rise buildings...

What makes it impossible for corrupt entities to pull off false-flag attacks...

What makes it impossible for the US to fly commercial size airliners... either by remote or with (hired) suicide pilots....

Please, shed yer ego and remove that red, white and blue war paint from yer face - and tell me specifically why it was impossible for 9/11 to be an inside job.
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There is so much wrong with the above that it boggles the mind. Seriously. Not that you're paying attention, considering you've got me on...IGNORE!

But I bet you peek, you rascal.
 
Natureboy,

believe it or not, the WTC was NOT designed to handle 140,000 tons falling on it. When such a mass FALLS on the floor below it nothing will stop or so much as slow it down.

Why exactly do you think the structure would slow down such a massive force?

BTW, the "free fall" speed of collapse is because that's when the outter debris hit bottom....you know - the stuff that was in free fall. The actual collapse itself took longer.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Okay, documented history... the founders of America slaughtered innocent indians and stole their land. Americans have a history of terrorist activity... History shows us that great powers are invariably corrupt and evil. The US is the richest and most powerful nation in the history of the world... 1 + 1 =
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It's like a gold mine o' fallacies with you!
 
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