Colin Powell is an idiot!

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Wayne Grabert said:

Again? I suppose you missed the other threads when I made the point that our small military presence in Afghanistan in no way compares to the USSR's military occupation, how we relied on local militias to do most of the fighting and how these same points were made repeatedly by talking heads in the Fall of 2001 to explain why our campaign WOULD NOT be like that of the Soviet Union.

On the other hand, our occupation of Iraq WOULD resemble the USSR's occupation of Afghanistan.
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You leave out the big key of our success was strategic and tactical bombing. It was a huge source for the victory. Remember the previus milltias hd been fighting for a long time with no success.
 
Wayne Grabert said:


Al Qaida is responding US policy toward Iraq by making PR overtures to the Iraqi people (and NOT the Iraqi government). Colin Gump is exploiting that to make the false argument that it is all the more reason why we need to invade Iraq--that there is a tie between the Iraqi regime and al Qaida.
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Regardless of the other matters being discussed here, I still haven't seen any convincing evidence that Osama bin Laden is alive. If I recall, that mysterious tape of OBL from a few months ago was analyzed by the CIA and they thought it was him, but other intelligence agencies were doubtful. I think if he were alive, we'd have seen him or heard more from him.

Al Jazeera denies having the tape the Powell refers to--does anyone think that they actually might, and that they would lie about it?

I agree that al Qaeda wants us to attack Iraq; anything that would inflame Muslim distrust, dislike, or hatred of the U.S. and the West in general suits their purposes.
 
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Bluegill said:


Regardless of the other matters being discussed here, I still haven't seen any convincing evidence that Osama bin Laden is alive. If I recall, that mysterious tape of OBL from a few months ago was analyzed by the CIA and they thought it was him, but other intelligence agencies were doubtful. I think if he were alive, we'd have seen him or heard more from him.
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I think he is dead also, though I do not remember any intelligence agencies making any claims about the last tape. There was that Swiss group that tested it but I thought their tests were inconclusive since they did not have enough samples of his voice.

Al Jazeera denies having the tape the Powell refers to--does anyone think that they actually might, and that they would lie about it?
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They are not denying it:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....WC5SY4CRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=2209343
 
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the U.S. government is fighting for your right to make these statements.
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Spare the dramatics.

The US gov. is also "fighting" for things many people don't want them to be "fighting" for, and "fighting" for things that actually hurt the US.
 
Re: Re: Colin Powell is an idiot!

Bluegill said:


Regardless of the other matters being discussed here, I still haven't seen any convincing evidence that Osama bin Laden is alive. If I recall, that mysterious tape of OBL from a few months ago was analyzed by the CIA and they thought it was him, but other intelligence agencies were doubtful. I think if he were alive, we'd have seen him or heard more from him.

Al Jazeera denies having the tape the Powell refers to--does anyone think that they actually might, and that they would lie about it?

I agree that al Qaeda wants us to attack Iraq; anything that would inflame Muslim distrust, dislike, or hatred of the U.S. and the West in general suits their purposes.
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Al Jazeera has their idol's tape. They will play it shortly. That is the word, anyway.

JK
 
Wayne Grabert said:

BULLS**T!

Expansion of "Patriot" (sic) Act.

Yet I suppose I should be so grateful for the "fight for my rights" that I should not use them and should obediently fall in line? :rolleyes:
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Even if this was official, do you really think they are just out to get any U.S. citizen that disagrees with the government?
 
Al Qaeda and the Iraqi army in the same general area? With the U.S. military buildup surrounding that area? You couldn't ask for a better situation. There really must be a god if we're that lucky. Talk about two birds, one stone.

What we REALLY learned from Vietnam is to ignore leftist, idiot, pacifists.
 
"We have a statement and we will show it later tonight. It has a message," Editor Saeed al-Shouly told Reuters.

--from Ssibal's link


I note that the news is very vague on whether the message is audio, video, or written.
 
Kiss of death?

If it actually is Osama Bin-liner then lets face it he may have just shifted a few points of public opinion towards war there!


I hope he keeps 'em comming with lots of references to his brothers in Iraq (with luck) and His best mate Sadam (I'm pushing it now) and lots of references to the Anthrax They gave him as a pressy (Oh Science fiction time!! LOL).


:D
 
My hope is that a large contingent of al quaeda, hamas, and other islamic fundamnentalist terror groups go to Iraq to help fight the infidels off. That way we can wipe out a large portion of these people at once.
 
Iraq.

A Target Rich Enviroment.

I wonder where the rats will run when the Stars and Stripes are flying over Baghdad?? :D

Where-ever that is.....it'll be next.

-zilla
 
Congratulations Wayne! You've actually made Jedi Knight sound perfectly rational after multiple posts, no mean feat in itself. Sorry, JK, but recently a couple of threads have had you sputtering a bit. This one is actually pretty good!

Looks like the OBL's Islamofascists are firmly allied with Iraq. There's no doubt now that we have to dismantle the Iraqi terror machine. I hope that we will indeed use the strongest weaponry we have against them, up to and including ER and TACNUKE. That should prove sufficient warning to Islamofascists everywhere that we will beat back the 7th century wherever we find it.
 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=1&cid=578&u=/nm/20030212/ts_nm/iraq_dc
'But the statement did not express support for Saddam. It said Muslims should support the Iraqi people rather than the country's government.

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While urging Muslims to support the Iraqi people and repel any attack on their country, the tape said Saddam's secular "socialist" government had lost credibility.

"Socialists are infidels wherever they are," the statement said. But it added: "It does not hurt that in current circumstances, the interests of Muslims coincide with the interests of the socialists in the war against crusaders." '
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http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2210085

"The statement did not express support for Iraqi President Saddam Hussein -- it said Muslims should support the Iraqi people rather than the country's government.

"The fighting should be in the name of God only, not in the name of national ideologies, nor to seek victory for the ignorant governments that rule all Arab states, including Iraq," the statement said."
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Bin Laden clearly hates Hussein. He calls him an infidel and a socialist. He is rallying the Iraqi muslim folk to defy a U.S. invasion. There is no obvious connection between Saddam and Osama, except a common enemy.
 
Next move will be for Bin Laden to declare an alliance with Cuba. Ha! Knew it all along. ;)

Well, If Al Qaida does lead members to Iraq, all the better for U.S. My gut feeling, however is that Bin Laden is just playing the media. I doubt Powell is that gullible. I'm sure he's playing the news just as much.
 
You're a genius, Wayne! How could you risk your life to get this data on our enemy? Quickly, we need you in Washington to direct our intelligence agencies! I'll make sure I only vote for Democrats in the future to make the world safe again!

Honestly- thanks again, Wayne! You're the real hero, not our government services, nor our fighting military servicemen... it's all YOU!!!
 
Brooklyn Dodger said:
Congratulations Wayne! You've actually made Jedi Knight sound perfectly rational after multiple posts, no mean feat in itself. Sorry, JK, but recently a couple of threads have had you sputtering a bit. This one is actually pretty good!

Looks like the OBL's Islamofascists are firmly allied with Iraq. There's no doubt now that we have to dismantle the Iraqi terror machine. I hope that we will indeed use the strongest weaponry we have against them, up to and including ER and TACNUKE. That should prove sufficient warning to Islamofascists everywhere that we will beat back the 7th century wherever we find it.
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Yeah a nice SADM would do wonders underneath Saddam's palace.

JK
 
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