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Colin Powell endorses Obama

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57539893/colin-powell-endorses-barack-obama-for-president/

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell broke with the Republican party during the 2008 election, to endorse then-candidate Barack Obama for president, calling Obama a "transformational figure."

With 12 days to go before the presidential election, Powell publicly endorsed President Obama for re-election on "CBS This Morning" Thursday

"I voted for him in 2008 and I plan to stick with him in 2012 and I'll be voting for he and for Vice President Joe Biden next month."
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It might be worth pointing out that Virginia is home to many military and veterans. Not that this endorsement will necessarily help Obama in the state, but a new PPP poll released this morning has Obama leading by 5 points in Virginia.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-lead-in-virginia-up-to-5-points.html
 
I don't think this will do much for Obama. If Powell had endorsed Romney, I think it would have hurt Obama.
 
BenBurch said:
Powell is a decent man. Had he run as a Democrat, I would have voted for him.
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Not me. Not ever since he lied to the UN Security Council in justifying an invasion that would lead to widespread bloodshed and suffering.

Also. . .
"I voted for him in 2008 and I plan to stick with him in 2012 and I'll be voting for he and for Vice President Joe Biden next month."

What's with the inconsistent use of the objective and subjective cases of the pronoun that is the object of a preposition? In the first one, he correctly used "him", so why did he incorrectly use "he" the second time?

OK. . maybe this isn't reason enough not to have voted for him if he had run, but in my book, it comes awfully close! ;)
 
IIRC, in 2000 Powell was approached by both Democratic and Republican leaders to run for President on their tickets. I suspect that Powell could have beaten Al Gore or GW Bush pretty handily, and if he had we'd all be better off.
 
BenBurch said:
Powell is a decent man. Had he run as a Democrat, I would have voted for him.
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If it were Powell versus Romney, I'd expect Powell to get all of the electoral votes and exactly 99% of the popular vote.
 
BenBurch said:
Powell is a decent man. Had he run as a Democrat, I would have voted for him.
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JoeTheJuggler said:
Not me. Not ever since he lied to the UN Security Council in justifying an invasion that would lead to widespread bloodshed and suffering.
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I'd say "Powell is a decent man who was profoundly duped by a mix of hard-liners and his own ideology." I'd invite him to my BBQ, maybe vote for him for mayor or something, but I can't trust his judgment at the national level. He has an enormous amount of company in that regard.
 
R.Mackey said:
I'd say "Powell is a decent man who was profoundly duped by a mix of hard-liners and his own ideology." I'd invite him to my BBQ, maybe vote for him for mayor or something, but I can't trust his judgment at the national level. He has an enormous amount of company in that regard.
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Yes. I was referring to 2000, and should have said so.
 
R.Mackey said:
I'd say "Powell is a decent man who was profoundly duped by a mix of hard-liners and his own ideology." I'd invite him to my BBQ, maybe vote for him for mayor or something, but I can't trust his judgment at the national level. He has an enormous amount of company in that regard.
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I think you're being soft on him. He's too smart to have been duped. If he placed that degree of trust in the Bush administration, he's got a horrible lack of judgement.

Personally, I question his integrity. I think he lied because he agreed with Bush that the war was a good idea.

[ETA: For me even to vote for him for major, his opponent would have to be seriously flawed.]

And IMO, saying that something is known and certain when at best it's only suspected is lying.

Anyway, as a practical matter, he's damaged goods. Can you imagine the TV ads his opponent would be able to air?
 
BenBurch said:
Yes. I was referring to 2000, and should have said so.
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Oh--you mean before we learned that his much-touted sense of honor wasn't a real thing. Yeah--he would have made a strong candidate back then.

I thought you were talking about him instead of Obama.

I don't know if I would've voted for Powell even back then. I'm a bit suspicious of career soldiers being necessarily good civilian leaders. (The President is certainly much more than Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.)
 
Monketey Ghost said:
And John McCain is disappointed in him...
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The Powell endorsement is ho hum. Really, who cares? On the other hand, McCain's freak-out is delicious. The man who chose Sarah Palin to be Vice President of the United States says that Powell has harmed his legacy by endorsing Obama. That dude has zero sense of proportion.
 
hgc said:
...McCain's freak-out is delicious. The man who chose Sarah Palin to be Vice President of the United States says that Powell has harmed his legacy by endorsing Obama. That dude has zero sense of proportion.
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And the winner of today's Zinger of the Day goes to...hgc!
 
hgc said:
The Powell endorsement is ho hum. Really, who cares? On the other hand, McCain's freak-out is delicious. The man who chose Sarah Palin to be Vice President of the United States says that Powell has harmed his legacy by endorsing Obama. That dude has zero sense of proportion.
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:D

McCain said he was disappointed that Powell endorsed Obama because of the direction foreign policy has taken. Which is odd to me, as Romney seemed to agreed an awful lot with President Obama during the debate. I guess McCain will be withdrawing his support from the Romney ticket any day now. ;)
 
Though Powell has lost some of his appeal from his disingenuous support of GW Bush's war, he remains one of the few people that still has respect that crosses party lines, and is especially strong with independants. As endorsements go, this is one hell of a lot better than McCain or Donald Trump. It may actually influence some undecideds.
 
Tricky said:
Though Powell has lost some of his appeal from his disingenuous support of GW Bush's war, he remains one of the few people that still has respect that crosses party lines, and is especially strong with independants. As endorsements go, this is one hell of a lot better than McCain or Donald Trump. It may actually influence some undecideds.
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Ideally, it could influence some of the undecideds in Virginia, which has a large military population. However, endorsements usually have no impact.
 
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