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colin fry's magic pendulum

silver birch said:
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I don't agree with the claim that he's 'widely regarded as one of the worlds finest spiritualist mediums'
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As opposed to the ones who aren't regarded so highly ?


Tricky:
Stamp out Linkulets, i.e. threads that start with a link or video and nothing else. If you don't have time to at least post a brief synopsis of the link or video, then I don't have time to waste viewing it.
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This..

At least create a poll .. Do we believe in the effectiveness of magic pendulums or no ..
 
My English is fine thanks and like yourself I have never had typing lessons. I suppose the difference is what effort the individual puts in. If you suffer from some malady that prevents you from using more than one finger then please excuse my crassness. Once you go over a sentence or two it all starts to get a bit muddled for me.

You mentioned that the camera crew were "disgusting" for being involved. What do you mean by this?

What evidence do you have that Virgin Media knew these mediums were fake? Why do you think that a company who rely on advertising would want to make any kind of program that would not be watched or that there is no ready market for?

All I see is you throwing out criticisms but with nothing to enlighten thread subscribers as to why you take your position.
 
silver birch said:
I would have not thought a synopsis was neccessary. when somebody views the clip its so obvious its another example of colin fry asssuming people are stupid it speaks for itself.
I don't agree with the claim that he's 'widely regarded as one of the worlds finest spiritualist mediums'
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I wouldn't bother viewing a clip unless I had some idea what it was about. Not worth the time.
 
To be honest, the thread title led me to expect a topic that was a lot racier than mediums on Virgin Media...
 
bluesjnr said:
My English is fine thanks and like yourself I have never had typing lessons. I suppose the difference is what effort the individual puts in. If you suffer from some malady that prevents you from using more than one finger then please excuse my crassness. Once you go over a sentence or two it all starts to get a bit muddled for me.

You mentioned that the camera crew were "disgusting" for being involved. What do you mean by this?

What evidence do you have that Virgin Media knew these mediums were fake? Why do you think that a company who rely on advertising would want to make any kind of program that would not be watched or that there is no ready market for

All I see is you throwing out criticisms but with nothing to enlighten thread subscribers as to why you take your position.
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when the pendulum moves the camera zooms in so that his hand is not in the frame. colin fry obviously told the camera man to do that so he is complicit.
2 pages back I've started a thread called colin fry channeling.
down the page is a link to a charlie brooker screenwipe program which is a montage of several clips. the final clip is from a psychic private eyes program and shows colin fry in a graveyard trying to locate a body, he casually remarks, I can sense a dead body but not the one I'm looking for.
charlie brooker's comment to that is-'however revolting and irresponsible you find that'
somebdy filmed that knowing what was going on. because there is a ready market for that sort of program does not make it ethical to broadcast it, that is my point.
 
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silver birch said:
when the pendulum moves the camera zooms in so that his hand is not in the frame. colin fry obviously told the camera man to do that so he is complicit.
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It isn't obvious to me. Perhaps it was the editor, director, and/or the producer? Do you have any evidence the cameraman was out to dupe the entire world, or just following orders from his director?

somebdy filmed that knowing what was going on. because there is a ready market for that sort of program does not make it ethical to broadcast it, that is my point.
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So? American/Canadian/Pop Idol are filmed for the same reasons. If there are laws in your neck of the woods that don't allow that type of programming, you need to contact the proper authorities.

silver birch said:
I don't believe any of the current tv mediums are genuine, although from books I have read I think its possible some of them in the past could have been.
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So because your brand of woo won't jibe with the current selections, we need to completely restock the tobacco shop with the old stuff.

Why not just close the shop permanently?
 
the question remains-can the 'dead' communicate with us or not? some investigators who have spent years researching believe they can. a well- known comment by one of them is- 'it only takes one white crow to prove all crows are not black.
I don't have the time, patience, or typing skills to discuss wether particular mediums from the past who are no longer here were genuine.
I will only say they did not make lots of money doing theatre tours with flashy suit changes and gold cufflinks, have premium rate phonelines, sell dvds at ripoff prices, and unlike present day mediums, allow themselves to be tested.
 
silver birch said:
the question remains-can the 'dead' communicate with us or not?
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Nope... There really isn't a question. Anymore then there is the question of the existence of the easter bunny or bigfoot.

It could be possible under the "everything could be possible" moto, however, it is up to the particular people in question to prove it's worth spending time, money and\or IQ on this nonesense.

silver birch said:
some investigators who have spent years researching believe they can. a well- known comment by one of them is- 'it only takes one white crow to prove all crows are not black.
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Indeed, a single white crow would prove that. Too bad we don't have a white crow till this very day.

silver birch said:
I don't have the time, patience, or typing skills to discuss wether particular mediums from the past who are no longer here were genuine.
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I wouldn't bother with it either. They would all be unverifiable anecdots that we don't really have a point to discuss anyway.

silver birch said:
I will only say they did not make lots of money doing theatre tours with flashy suit changes and gold cufflinks, have premium rate phonelines, sell dvds at ripoff prices, and unlike present day mediums, allow themselves to be tested.
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So they weren't very marketable. Who cares?
Cold Reading and all the other basic techniques are as old as time itself.
Fraud is not a modern day monopoly.
 
silver birch said:
the white crow was a METAPHOR
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Ummm... I know that. I was replying to the metaphor.

We haven't found a single person who we can verify that talked to the dead.
Anectodal stories from the past, as I already stated, are utterly useless.

If they are alive and kicking, they either already tested and failed or refuse to be tested which makes them pointless at best.
 
silver birch said:
white crow medium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonora_Piper
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Nope. Just another black one...

Martin Gardner writes in his essay “How Mrs. Piper Bamboozled William James” that transcribed records of Piper's seances clearly illustrate that she used the technique of cold reading and "fishing", as vague statements were followed by more precise information based on how sitters reacted. Gardner reports that when caught in an error, Piper's "control" would invariably profess deafness and "leave" her, and that Piper was unable to discern between real and fictitious information fed to her.
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someone thought she was genuine someone else did not. we have not seen her so we shall never know. there were others of that calibre.
anyway, they did not have premium rate phonelines which says something about them.
 
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