Merged Cold Fusion Claims

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Craig B said:
From LeClair's response to Krivit, New Energy Times.
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We saw the presence of nearly every element in the periodic table imbedded into a diamond matrix covering the core of the experiment.
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So he is saying they created a diamond out of water, or that they had a cover made of diamond?
The only way to tell is to vaporize the diamond and run it through the mass spectrometer.
The transmuted particles were so radioactive they cooked the clear plastic dishes they were placed in after the experiment.
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And fried you and gave you radiation poisoning?
This stopped a week after the experiment, a clear sign of short-lived isotopes,
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Long enough to fry you guys, hey did you happen to see a Geiger counter?
the mass spec anaysis confirmed this.
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It showed what, usually there are percentages.
Mass spec is the gold standard and showed the transmuted particles followed supernova isotope ratios (All 80 or so ratios were close to one) and none resembled earthly abundances.
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There were 80 elements in the diamond?
All of this is hard to rationally explain as other than being generated by nuclear fusion.
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Maybe story telling.
There were other many other profound effects we observed that were not subtle as well and equally hard to explain. The experiment gave off powerful crested cnoid de Broglie Matter wave soliton wave packages that were doubly periodic
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Gibberish to hide behind?

Psychosis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave


This is loony, they are are talking about QM solutions for matter. They say they measured this how?

This looks like QUANTUM WOO
and followed the Jacobi Elliptic functions exactly, mostly in the form of large doubly-periodic vortices.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobi_elliptic_functions

So they showed a cyclical nature, at what frequency exactly?
Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared everywhere and are permanently burned into walls, objects and trees surrounding the lab.
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Craig B said:
I'm no physicist. Does this stuff mean anything? If vortices are permanently burned into objects and trees, could samples of these things be obtained?
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Um this is tale telling and likely a scam or psychosis, they would have been fried to death.
 
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Dancing David said:
So he is saying they created a diamond out of water, or that they had a cover made of diamond?
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Maybe it's a diamond "of the first water". As to Rossi and his e-cat, that started this flap, the Italian authorities have now spoken in terms that have dissuaded Rossi from setting up his alleged "factory" there. So it's to be in the USA, which will be of renewed interest to the Florida Board of Radiation Control; or "Sweden". We'll see how long he can keep the Sweden story going. See http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/05/rossi-reversal-no-e-cat-plant-for-italy/ for more details. Even the most crazy of the cryofusionists are giving up on Rossi!
 
PESN back in the game with Rossi!

you used to laugh at rossi but now it's over. look at this and repent
solid-state_E-Cat_burner_concept_600dC_300.jpg

http://pesn.com/2012/06/30/9602121_Solid_State_E-Cat/

Actually, I am in the USA, close to 20 reactors working above 600 Celsius. We must collect at least 20 000 hours of test. This is not sweating: this is vaporizing, as correctly the snakes say.
Soon (weeks) we will publish the report of the high temperature reactor validation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
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source: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=629&cpage=5#comment-262258
the report will be validated by a "third party"
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/07/rossi-third-parties-will-validate-high-temperature-e-cats/

poe-y enough? :D
 
Akuma Tennou said:
you used to laugh at rossi but now it's over. look at this and repent
[qimg]http://pesn.com/2012/06/30/9602121_Solid_State_E-Cat/solid-state_E-Cat_burner_concept_600dC_300.jpg[/qimg]
http://pesn.com/2012/06/30/9602121_Solid_State_E-Cat/


source: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=629&cpage=5#comment-262258
the report will be validated by a "third party"http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/07/rossi-third-parties-will-validate-high-temperature-e-cats/

poe-y enough? :D
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If they have enough strippers and booze at the party it's sure to be validated. :)
 
The story on that scam is still going on ?

Oh wait, the steorn scam is still going on, so why not this one.

I wonder how rossi "explain away" his own statement ti US authorities there is no radioactive reactor built or sold on US soil....
 
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When first introduced to the world, Andrea Rossi's E-Cat required a flow of water to remain stable, even at low temperatures. Now, he has developed a new "solid state" high temperature model that is stable at temperatures even higher than 600C -- with no cooling needed!

By Hank Mills
Pure Energy Systems News
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I'm off to Stundie this!
 
Soon (weeks) we will publish the report of the high temperature reactor validation.
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Thus spake Rossi. Last time he promised a statement, he did so just after an earthquake in Bologna, and then used the damage caused by that event as an excuse for postponing it. I look forward to the ingenious excuse he will resort to this time to keep the suckers hanging on in there.
 
Akuma Tennou said:
industrial sales have begun!
http://ecat.com/ecat-products
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Hmmmmm.... if you look at the technical data for the 1MW unit, it claims a 1MW *thermal* output from an average 167kW *electrical* input.

Fine, I guess, but does it include a mechanism for converting the claimed 1MW thermal output into something useful like, suppose, electricity??? ...and if so, what's the resultant output after taking conversion inefficiencies into account?

ETA - also, I note it needs water feed - I wonder if the power to the pumps (if applicable) is covered in the energy budget.

Also ETA - I can also see a problem here with the advertised performance data. It talks about "1MW" thermal output, but nowhere does it seem to frame that in the form of a *rate* of power output (ie kWH).

If I were a cynic, I would suspect the 1MW in thermal output to be produced after 10 hours of 167kW electrical input, as the specs are somewhat incomplete and misleading
 
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Kid Eager said:
Hmmmmm.... if you look at the technical data for the 1MW unit, it claims a 1MW *thermal* output from an average 167kW *electrical* input.

Fine, I guess, but does it include a mechanism for converting the claimed 1MW thermal output into something useful like, suppose, electricity??? ...and if so, what's the resultant output after taking conversion inefficiencies into account?

ETA - also, I note it needs water feed - I wonder if the power to the pumps (if applicable) is covered in the energy budget.

Also ETA - I can also see a problem here with the advertised performance data. It talks about "1MW" thermal output, but nowhere does it seem to frame that in the form of a *rate* of power output (ie kWH).

If I were a cynic, I would suspect the 1MW in thermal output to be produced after 10 hours of 167kW electrical input, as the specs are somewhat incomplete and misleading
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No, power is inherently a rate. A watt is one joule per second. A kilowatt is 1000 joules per second. A kWH is a unit of energy. It takes the 1000 joules/sec and multiplies it by the 3600 seconds/1 hour, so a kWH is 3,600,000 joules.

That's not to defend it, but the units are consistent.
 
TjW said:
No, power is inherently a rate. A watt is one joule per second. A kilowatt is 1000 joules per second. A kWH is a unit of energy. It takes the 1000 joules/sec and multiplies it by the 3600 seconds/1 hour, so a kWH is 3,600,000 joules.

That's not to defend it, but the units are consistent.
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oops, my bad. I offer JREF the use of my Ferrari as penance! :o

I still think they are being a bit sneaky with the way they depict the stats, though - or is that more me being more clueless than I thought?
 
Well here's a goodie -- the fuel costs will be negligible. Wait, what?! I thought you put in electricity and got out heat. Now there's a fuel involved, too? Isn't that new, or have I just not been following it closely enough.
 
Akuma Tennou said:
industrial sales have begun!
http://ecat.com/ecat-products
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ecat site said:
sign-ups for pre-orders ... there will be regularly updates in the specifications ... sign-up is not binding and no payment will be necessary until a final order is agreed upon
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No sales have begun at all. The specifications will change. Why do people think 'pre-order' is a word? Why am I watching this movie again?
 
nathan said:
No sales have begun at all. The specifications will change. Why do people think 'pre-order' is a word? Why am I watching this movie again?
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errrr why spoiling the fun? think like a loony
For sale now
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that's the only thing they'll read
the guru himself says it
The industrial version of the E-Cat is already for sale

source: http://www.freeenergysystems.com/Andrea_Rossi_Discusses_The_E-Cat_Part_1/
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the only thing that annoys me is that i must wait 4 months to see a moment of clarity in some believers... but it'll be soooo fun :D
 
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