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Colbert Nails Author of The Purpose Driven Life

OK - it wasn't clear since you posted your comments when someone was asking how different were the punishments among other cultures in OT times. It made me think that you thought there was a movement to make laws requiring stonings or something. :)

For the Republican Party of Texas Platform - are they talking about Sodomy or Gay Marriage? Do you have a direct link for that quote?

http://www.texasgop.org/site/DocServer/Platform_Updated.pdf?docID=2001

LLH
 
It's typical of his posts. The last bit is, I believe, a shot at me: an accusation that I am somehow following him about the forum. I got the same silliness from Plumjam a while back. The price is fail.
I offered you a shot, but I offered him cookies. Now I offer you both a shot and cookies if you can win this challenge. Many men have died of migraines, some are headless because of it. You must bear the stress of thinking this hard, summon every neuron to attention, and answer what probably qualifies as an allegory:

Item One

Item Two

Victory is yours for the taking men.
 
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Christian Sceptic,

Here's another pertinent link. Texas had an anti-sodomy law on the books until the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional in 2003. You're curious to know which Old Testament laws are being forced upon people, well there you go. The Bible holds so much sway down here that my own home state had managed to pass an unconstitutional religiously motivated law.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/26/scotus.sodomy/

Regarding my previous post in this thread: Imagine if Texas banned Red Lobster from operating their business in the state. Imagine that their justification for doing so was adhering to the exact same cultural reference that inspired the anti-sodomy law.

Why do we take one verse of Leviticus seriously, and the others we don't?
 
You don't see Christians picketing Red Lobster or the GAP. Anytime I've asked a Christian why these old laws aren't enforced, the answer I get is, "The New Covenant did away with many of the old laws."

From Luke 16:16

16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of heaven is preached.

(The John in question is John The Baptist)

However in the very next verse, Luke 16:17-18

16:17 It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

16:18
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

Then there is this chestnut from Paul in 2 Corinthians 3:14

3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ.

However, Jesus allegedly said in Matthew 5:18:

Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.

So essentially, Jesus did away all that barbarism demanded by God in the Old Testament AND gave them his complete stamp of approval! Jesus essentially invented the concept of Doublethink long before Orwell wrote 1984. Either that, of the "Virgin" (yeah, right) Mary should have named her son "Sybil."

This schizophrenic theology explains how most Christians can call hellfire down on homosexuals, atheists, fornicators, adulterers, and and other "sinners," yet can snack right royally on shrimp cocktail while wearing those tacky polyester suits we often see them sporting. (As I always said: "Find God, loose all taste.")

The Bible is literally, unerring, "Word of God" only when it suits the believer.
 
I offered you a shot, but I offered him cookies. Now I offer you both a shot and cookies if you can win this challenge. Many men have died of migraines, some are headless because of it. You must bear the stress of thinking this hard, summon every neuron to attention, and answer what probably qualifies as an allegory:

Item One

Item Two

Victory is yours for the taking men.
I worry about you. Your posts read like you are trying to emulate the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.

We can understand your point or you can write coherently, but we can never both understand your point and have you write coherently.:p
 
Christian Sceptic,

Here's another pertinent link. Texas had an anti-sodomy law on the books until the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional in 2003.

Good

You're curious to know which Old Testament laws are being forced upon people, well there you go.

Well - actually I wasn't sure what was being meant. It's clear now.

The Bible holds so much sway down here that my own home state had managed to pass an unconstitutional religiously motivated law.

Is the Texas GOP argument based on the Old Testament?

Regarding my previous post in this thread: Imagine if Texas banned Red Lobster from operating their business in the state. Imagine that their justification for doing so was adhering to the exact same cultural reference that inspired the anti-sodomy law.

I wish I would have taken advantage of the Red Lobster all you can eat crab legs. But the one summer I passed it by they decided never to do it again. :(

Why do we take one verse of Leviticus seriously, and the others we don't?

I've never gotten a simple answer to this very same question. I personally don't think Christians need to be going back to the OT when they can go directly to what Jesus taught. But that's just me.
 
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OK - it wasn't clear since you posted your comments when someone was asking how different were the punishments among other cultures in OT times. It made me think that you thought there was a movement to make laws requiring stonings or something. :)

For the Republican Party of Texas Platform - are they talking about Sodomy or Gay Marriage? Do you have a direct link for that quote?
Almost certain it would be the Gay Marriage thing. What would the Texas Republican Party do if Sodomy were outlawed???:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp
 
Almost certain it would be the Gay Marriage thing. What would the Texas Republican Party do if Sodomy were outlawed???:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

haha. Well - actually, according to that link above - Gay Marriage is a seperate issue on their platform.

Although the CNN article describes Texas law as being targetted for homosexuals only.
 
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Comedy Central re-runs the previous day's show about 5 times the following day...


Looked for it and caught it. Thanks. :) Another priceless interview by the Lincolnish one.

My take on the "Who are your writers?" question was that it was like "Where the hell did you pull that from?", as if the author didn't think the bible said that, or at least didn't want to admit it. Another lie for Jesus, maybe.
 
Why do we take one verse of Leviticus seriously, and the others we don't?
It isn't about Leviticus. It's about in-group and out-group, and using God as a ventriloquist's dummy to say the things you want to say with the reverb cranked up. People who feel threatened by someone else's sexual preferences get to sock-puppet God as their spokesperson to condemn it. The in-group bonds, and the out-group is demonized.

The dietary in-group was once a powerful force too (else, why would it be written in the Torah, the Bible, and the Quran?), but that train has moved on somewhat. Some Jews and Muslims still observe prohibitions on pork (I don't know about shellfish, crustaceans, catfish, and cephalopods), but Christians by and large have outgrown that particular observance.

I know there is a lot of condemnation of "a la carte Christians," both from those who fancy themselves as nonbelievers and from those who fancy themselves as true believers, but I regard the a la carte Christian as more enlightened than his fundamentalist brothers. Granted, many of them don't KNOW they're a la carte Christians -- if you told them the Bible forbade the eating of shrimp, they'd give you a blank stare, followed by the "Jesus said that stuff didn't apply to us" speech, followed by another blank stare when you pointed out that he most certainly did not. Nevertheless, they've taken the first step to ethical maturity, using reason and conscience to determine an ethical course of action, rather than childishly and unthinkingly adhering to a long list of prohibitions that can't be rationally justified.

To me, that's progress. Insignificant, but progress nevertheless.
 
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Christian Sceptic,

Here's another pertinent link. Texas had an anti-sodomy law on the books until the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional in 2003. You're curious to know which Old Testament laws are being forced upon people, well there you go. The Bible holds so much sway down here that my own home state had managed to pass an unconstitutional religiously motivated law.

And for those keeping score at home, that case was 5-4, and was decided when O'Connor was on the bench.

If a similar case came before today's court, there is not a doubt in my mind that it would be 5-4 the other way.

This is the problem with the "police power", it gives states the right to regulate morals, so it can, in theory, reach even private activities between private actors even when there is no demonstrably negative effect to anyone else. So then you have to find a fundamental right in the constitution to overturn it, and there is always a fist fight about what rights are in there.

It would be far better if states were only allowed to regulate demonstrably harmful activities and not just any old thing they think is immoral.(ala Jefferson's "picks my pocket or breaks my leg") But, that is another thread.
 
I worry about you. Your posts read like you are trying to emulate the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. We can understand your point or you can write coherently, but we can never both understand your point and have you write coherently.:p
Foster can be Larry, Thompson can be Moe, and you can be Curly. Now If I can get all three of you to pay attention:

"His irritation at the author's literalism and salesmanship"

Colbert clearly takes exception to the author's fundamentalism (literal interpretation of a canonical book (s), that is, an allegory). The author denies he's a fundamentalist, but interprets it literally (a contradiction), Colbert points this out. The author, an imbecile, is clearly embarrassed and acts like Foster, while Colbert manages a straight face, a feat of concentration brother Philip hasn't mastered yet in these situations. This is because Colbert knows it is properly a collection of stories, metaphors, and situations.

"..is because he recognizes that it is an allegory of faith."

If this is the definition of allegory, I could only be referring to the Bible. Correct? Now if this is correct, then I've only failed to consider reading comprehension difficulties, general laziness, or the need to bicker in my conciseness. Another problem, although not mine, is all three of you have distinguished yourselves as idiots by having me point this out to you for some reason. Thoughts?
 
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