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It's valid, but had nothing to do with western medicine.
Typical cop-out. You tried to validate it yourself with medical science. But then you were shown that medical science discredits the idea, so now it "has nothing to do with western medicine".

As for the "great sense of joy and amazement", it is like a lot of things naive; and if that was directed at me yes, by definition it was. Anything else?
How is it naive? And "naive" is not how you last described it. I daresay it seems as though you are making this up as you go along.
 
Typical cop-out. You tried to validate it yourself with medical science. But then you were shown that medical science discredits the idea, so now it "has nothing to do with western medicine".
I said Buddhist art illustrates some of it's arcane practices. I also described basic retention, used by some martial artists and athletes, as opposed to expelling it constantly, which most men do. This absorption does in fact occur and is physically noticeable. This is simply what I stated, correct?

How is it naive? And "naive" is not how you last described it. I daresay it seems as though you are making this up as you go along.
Which type of reassured naivete do you prefer, remember the price is fail:

1) The natural world is the result of an intelligent designer, that is, nature is not self-sufficient.

2) The intelligent designer does not exist but nature's self-ordering symmetry, which we are a product, somehow validates something besides nihilistic dualism in human terms.

Randi is an excellent example of the latter naivete. He takes cruises to the Galapagos, takes refuge in naturalism and engineering, labels himself an atheist - and then fights who he imitates. Worse, he also looks like a gnome, a wizard, and the God of the Old Testament, making public relations a nightmare. Ah, the human condition! I guess you have to be half evil to understand.
 
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I said Buddhist art illustrates some of it's arcane practices. I also described basic retention, used by some martial artists and athletes, as opposed to expelling it constantly, which most men do. This absorption does in fact occur and is physically noticeable. This is simply what I stated, correct?

Which type of reassured naivete do you prefer, remember the price is fail:

1) The natural world is the result of an intelligent designer, that is, nature is not self-sufficient.

2) The intelligent designer does not exist but nature's self-ordering symmetry, which we are a product, somehow validates something besides nihilistic dualism in human terms.

Randi is an excellent example of the latter naivete. He takes cruises to the Galapagos, takes refuge in naturalism and engineering, labels himself an atheist - and then fights who he imitates. Worse, he also looks like a gnome, a wizard, and the God of the Old Testament, making public relations a nightmare. Ah, the human condition! I guess you have to be half evil to understand.

You've just put six dots on a page and presented it to us as though it were a painting. Could you please connect the dots?
 
I said Buddhist art illustrates some of it's arcane practices. I also described basic retention, used by some martial artists and athletes, as opposed to expelling it constantly, which most men do. This absorption does in fact occur and is physically noticeable. This is simply what I stated, correct?
Physically noticeable except by controlled observation. Have you considered confirmation bias?

Which type of reassured naivete do you prefer, remember the price is fail:

1) The natural world is the result of an intelligent designer, that is, nature is not self-sufficient.

2) The intelligent designer does not exist but nature's self-ordering symmetry, which we are a product, somehow validates something besides nihilistic dualism in human terms.

Randi is an excellent example of the latter naivete. He takes cruises to the Galapagos, takes refuge in naturalism and engineering, labels himself an atheist - and then fights who he imitates. Worse, he also looks like a gnome, a wizard, and the God of the Old Testament, making public relations a nightmare. Ah, the human condition! I guess you have to be half evil to understand.
Do you do a Yoda impression when you say "the price is fail"?

Seriously, part of your argument includes the physical appearance of James Randi.
 
I said Buddhist art illustrates some of it's arcane practices. I also described basic retention, used by some martial artists and athletes, as opposed to expelling it constantly, which most men do. This absorption does in fact occur and is physically noticeable. This is simply what I stated, correct?
Vampires have been a feature of lore for hundreds of years. I have even seen seasons of television shows which describe the actions of some. Further, people dress, emulate and practice vamiprism many times with books describing how to be a vampire.


Hmm, vampires must be real.

Which type of reassured naivete do you prefer, remember the price is fail:
1) The natural world is the result of an intelligent designer, that is, nature is not self-sufficient.

2) The intelligent designer does not exist but nature's self-ordering symmetry, which we are a product, somehow validates something besides nihilistic dualism in human terms.
The price is loaded answer mixed with false dichotomy.

Randi is an excellent example of the latter naivete. He takes cruises to the Galapagos, takes refuge in naturalism and engineering, labels himself an atheist - and then fights who he imitates. Worse, he also looks like a gnome, a wizard, and the God of the Old Testament, making public relations a nightmare. Ah, the human condition! I guess you have to be half evil to understand.
argumentum ad you-look-funnium.
 
Seriously, part of your argument includes the physical appearance of James Randi.
Argument? Oh, he thinks nature and morality (and by extension secularism) having nothing to do with each other is one. Look, if you ever solve that one I'll be the first to congratulate you. Other things, now what is your point, but as for Yoda, such a contrast of tact might apply here; I suppose I could recite the rules of positive dialogue, then knowing finally what they are this time, you can pretend I'm somehow not aware of them, or I can sit through very boring critiques of statements I've already proofread without having to point them out.
 
You've just put six dots on a page and presented it to us as though it were a painting. Could you please connect the dots?
Do you also want me to bring out large colored fonts, reading guides, and shove my hand up a muppet's arse, rendering it both dead and alive?
 
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Argument? Oh, he thinks nature and morality (and by extension secularism) having nothing to do with each other is one.
Whom has stated that nature and morality have nothing to do with each other?

I suppose I could recite the rules of positive dialogue.
Simply acquainting yourself with the rules of dialog would be a positive step.
 
Physically noticeable except by controlled observation. Have you considered confirmation bias?
Have you considered that you have no actual interest here besides bickering. Like most things involving fitness, explaining it is counterproductive but a lot more so in that case. It was directed to those so inclined. Yes, sigh, I'm aware.
 
Whom has stated that nature and morality have nothing to do with each other?
Darth Sidious, for one.

Simply acquainting yourself with the rules of dialog would be a positive step.
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Have you considered that you have no actual interest here besides bickering.
I see, you consider the address of flaws in your claims to be "bickering". Did you come to this forum with the expectation that everyone would agree with what you say?

Like most things involving fitness, explaining it is counterproductive but a lot more so in that case. It was directed to those so inclined.
How is explaining it counterproductive. I'm sure I've asked you before if you think that consuming ground rhinoceros horn has any actual effect on a man's ability to achieve an erection. A great many people truly believe that it does. They are convinced by their experiences that it does.

Yes, sigh, I'm aware.
So you are aware that your insistence that you are experiencing a genuine result contrary to the result indicated by scientific investigation is the same sort of confirmation bias employed by someone who thinks ground rhino horn will give him wood.
 
How is explaining it counterproductive.
Because it's hilarious having to, as it's simple to validate. The 'mood lift' effects all males the same way:


It's influence on adrenaline and testosterone levels certainly play a role however.

So you are aware that your insistence that you are experiencing a genuine result contrary to the result indicated by scientific investigation is the same sort of confirmation bias employed by someone who thinks ground rhino horn will give him wood.
You have to admit though, snorting Erzsebet Bathory's ashes would be a superb aphrodisiac.
 
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Because it's hilarious having to, as it's simple to validate. The 'mood lift' effects all males the same way:
It's simple to validate the effects of rhino horn too. I mean people think it works, so it must work. Those poor rhinos. If only their phallic features didn't have an obvious effect on men's erectile function.

And I see we're back to posting the same links that were earlier discredited. At least this time you didn't accidentally post a link to a site debunking your claim. But this could go on ad infinitum and I'm getting bored...
 
It's simple to validate the effects of rhino horn too. I mean people think it works, so it must work. Those poor rhinos. If only their phallic features didn't have an obvious effect on men's erectile function.
Escape from your desk is impossible these days, isn't it.

And I see we're back to posting the same links that were earlier discredited. At least this time you didn't accidentally post a link to a site debunking your claim. But this could go on ad infinitum and I'm getting bored...
I don't get the motive here. I mean, anybody reading this you complete utter dolt, can ask Google ("semen and mood") and notice a positive correlation is suggested and nothing exists that discredits it, as no proper studies exist, and wonder what you are talking about. Yes, it's equilibrium in the body can effect mood and physical fatigue. Yes, I actually knew this before I wrote it. Yes, studies if they do continue, will actually affirm it. Yes, if the average person throws it out of their system repeatedly then jogs, spars or works out they will notice a degree of drained fatigue, as opposed to it being retained. This also works in reverse. What else can I say, deal with it?
 
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Escape from your desk is impossible these days, isn't it.
Evasion noted.

I don't get the motive here. I mean, anybody reading this you complete utter dolt,...
Awww, are you getting angry? I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to hurt your fragile ego or anything. I was just pointing out that you repeatedly make claims and then ignore all contradictory evidence.

...can ask Google ("semen and mood") and notice a positive correlation is suggested and nothing exists that discredits it, as no proper studies exist, and wonder what you are talking about. Yes, it's equilibrium in the body can effect mood and physical fatigue. Yes, I actually knew this before I wrote it. Yes, studies if they do continue, will actually affirm it. Yes, if the average person throws it out of their system repeatedly then jogs, spars or works out they will notice a degree of drained fatigue, as opposed to it being retained. This also works in reverse. What else can I say, deal with it?
We're going full circle here. Not only do you apparently fail to read the sources that you cite as your supporting evidence, leading you to post a link to a site discrediting one of your claims, but you also seem to ignore the contrary evidence that has been presented to you, such as the medical studies referenced by Slingblade that contradict your claims. Your assurance that medical science will one day validate your assertion (which embarrassingly contradicts you earlier statement that "it has nothing to do with Western medicine") amounts to little more than a god of the gaps argument. You may as well claim that further, proper study of phrenology will lead to its validation by medical science.
 
Awww, are you getting angry? I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to hurt your fragile ego or anything.
I can certainly be irked, a better word is depressed - generally all it takes is to feign mature interest long enough, then spring you are just trying to get a rise out of me. Congratulations?

I was just pointing out that you repeatedly make claims and then ignore all contradictory evidence.
I think this is the first time Foster encountered an actual argument from authority (common in the East, to be sure), that is, someone actually knowing something he doesn't.

We're going full circle here. Not only do you apparently fail to read the sources that you cite as your supporting evidence, leading you to post a link to a site discrediting one of your claims, but you also seem to ignore the contrary evidence that has been presented to you, such as the medical studies referenced by Slingblade that contradict your claims. Your assurance that medical science will one day validate your assertion (which embarrassingly contradicts you earlier statement that "it has nothing to do with Western medicine") amounts to little more than a god of the gaps argument. You may as well claim that further, proper study of phrenology will lead to its validation by medical science.
Yes, Foster, there is in fact a correlation that medicine will discover. The reverse also exists, and certain practices will cause dramatic effects, but it's not part of western fitness or sports medicine. It's a statement, but you are making a complete fool out of yourself. Offhand 'studies' that exist clearly suggest a correlation exists, so what are you talking about?
 
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