Coach let go for allowing parent to try to convert Muslims

[Paranormal Inquirer]

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080529/SCHOOLS/805290380

Was the pastor within his right to do so?

 

[godless dave]

Depends if he did it on school grounds or during school activities. He and the coach claim he didn't.

 

[Prometheus]

Seems to me that everyone on all sides has acted completely within their rights. What's the big deal?

 

[JoeEllison]

You'd think they would just bag the assistant?

 

[drkitten]

Was the pastor within his right to do so?

if he was not acting in his official capacity as coach at the time, and wasn't doing it on school property, then, yes, he was.

But the school board was also within their rights not to renew his contract. Almost no one has a legally enforceable expectation of contract renewal.

 

[Bob Klase]

I'd think they'd find out exactly who did what, and where, before they bag anybody. Based on that article it looks like they still don't know.

 

[drkitten]

You'd think they would just bag the assistant?

Marszalek says he was aware for 10 years that Hancock's activities "might be a problem."

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I can only imagine the discussion:

"Let me see, now, Mr. Murphy. We've had complaints now from customers for the past six months that all the cashiers on your shift are rude and surly, and in many cases sexually harassing. Despite this, you've by your own admission done nothing to address the problem, not even firing the most egregious offenders. I'm afraid the problem is at a higher level than the cashiers, Mr. Murphy. May I have your nametag please?"

 

[drkitten]

I'd think they'd find out exactly who did what, and where, before they bag anybody. Based on that article it looks like they still don't know.

Whom did they bag? His contract was up for renewal and was not renewed.

 

[Fnord]

Just my Cr0.02...

The school's principal, Imad Fadlallah, is a relative of Hezbollah spiritual leader Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, a Specially Designated Terrorist (SDT) on the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Asset Control terrorist list, used by the State Department.

Susan Fadlallah (Imad Fadlallah's wife) is the daughter of Lebanese Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, who was Hezbollah's negotiator during the 1985 TWA flight 847 hijacking during which Hezbollah tortured to death Navy Diver Robert Dean Stethem.

Islamic Terrorists Ali Houssaiky and Osama Sabhi Abulhassan (a.k.a.; "The Dearbornistan Boys") are graduates of Dearborn's Fordson High School (a.k.a. "Hezbollah High"). Houssaiky was the star running back and co-captain of Fordson's football team.

Rev. Trey Hancock of the Dearborn Assembly of God, who helped Marszalek with the team for 10 years, and whose son, Paul, is now a member, confirmed that he attempts to convert Muslim youths to Christianity and that he baptized a 15-year-old Muslim student in Port Huron a few years ago. Hancock insisted that he never attempted a conversion as part of his work with the wrestling team, or on school grounds.

Golly gee, I see no ulterior motives in the coach's firing, do you?

 

[Fiona]

Guilt by association?

 

[Paranormal Inquirer]

Just my Cr0.02...




Golly gee, I see no ulterior motives in the coach's firing, do you?

Enough with the Debbie Schlussel sources. It'd do you some good not to source anti Islamic, racist propaganda. Besides, the first and third points you made have been refuted.

 

[Prometheus]

Fixed it for you:

Just my Cr0.02...

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Golly gee, I see no ulterior motives in the coach's firing, do you?

Golly gee, I see no ulterior motives in your post. Paranoid, much, are we?

 

[Paranormal Inquirer]

lol, nice one!

 

[Fnord]

No statement is racist propaganda if the stated assertions are true.

However, even conceding the first and third points does not change anything else. The coach was fired / let go / not re-contracted; and not necessarily for failing performance. The facts that his association with a Christian evangelist, and that his supervisor is a moslem would appear to have been major factors in that decision.

Last I heard about Fordson was back in 2006, when Dearborn school leaders directed their employees to de-emphasize the 9/11 attacks in the classroom. Since then, some teachers have feared for their jobs if they so much as acknowledge 9/11.

Of course, we all know that nobody is ever persecuted merely being associated with Christians in this modern and enlightened age, right?

And certainly, no one would ever dream of allowing their own religious beliefs to influence their decision-making processes, right?

Yeah, this is all one big hoo-hah over nothing. Ignore it, there is nothing going on involving religious persecution.

السلام والمحبة

 

[Civilized Worm]

I think Fnord may have a bit of a point. If the principal is a muslim that could explain this overreaction.

 

[Paranormal Inquirer]

I think Fnord may have a bit of a point. If the principal is a muslim that could explain this overreaction.

True. But he still brought up stories which were fabrications made by the bigoted Debbie Schlussel. For him to fall for such sources for information on the outside world is quite frightning. Perhaps you agreed with her and Michelle Malkin on calling Rachel Ray's recent ad for Dunkin' Donuts terrorist promoting.

 

[drkitten]

However, even conceding the first and third points does not change anything else. The coach was fired / let go / not re-contracted; [strikeout]and not necessarily for failing performance[/strikeout]. The facts that his association with a Christian evangelist, and that his supervisor is a moslem would appear to have been major factors in that decision.

Of course the fact that by his own admission parents were complaining to that same supervisor about his association with the Christian evangelist, and he did nothing about it, is probably an even greater factor in that decision.

The coach is, by his own admission not responsive to the needs and desires of the community he ostensibly serves. Sounds to me like he acknowledges that he was fired for failing performance.

 

[GreyICE]

Of course the fact that by his own admission parents were complaining to that same supervisor about his association with the Christian evangelist, and he did nothing about it, is probably an even greater factor in that decision.

The coach is, by his own admission not responsive to the needs and desires of the community he ostensibly serves. Sounds to me like he acknowledges that he was fired for failing performance.

The coach is not responsible to any person or group for who he knows or is friends with, especially in the context of a government job. Right of free association and all that.

So the issue the parents were complaining about was never a legitimate issue, and he had no responsibility to respond to it in any way, shape, or form.

 

[Prometheus]

School spokesman David Mustonen left this statement: “Coaches are at-will employees. They sign a one-year contract. The decision was made based upon the fact that there was a union person interested in the position, and priority has to be given to that unionized person.”

Marszalek said he does not plan to take any legal action. He said he was already retired and was only coaching part-time.

Link

 

[Civilized Worm]

True. But he still brought up stories which were fabrications made by the bigoted Debbie Schlussel. For him to fall for such sources for information on the outside world is quite frightning. Perhaps you agreed with her and Michelle Malkin on calling Rachel Ray's recent ad for Dunkin' Donuts terrorist promoting.

I have no idea who Rachel Ray is.