CNN says ARNOLD!

Jesse would make a good presidential runner.

I would have voted Larry Flynt, but then I saw Mary's platform and it was actually pretty good. And she's so cute and bubbly! And DAMN smart.
Ugh, I sure hope Ahnold doesn't turn Vegas into California East.
 
reprise, I understand the voting is electronic and therefore pretty much immediate. Is that right, someone?
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I voted with a punchcard and I'll tell you what, I had a hanging chad, or non-hanging!!! I only punched 2 holes: one to vote Yes for the recall, one to vote for McClintock (woulda voted for Arnie just to get Davis out but I didn't need to, so I voted for who I felt was the "better" candidate). I skipped the other 2 initiatives as I was suspicious of any other items that got tacked onto the ballot. They were both defeated.

Voting problems:
Anyways, I looked at the ballot and one chad looked as if it hadn't been punched. I used my fingers, saw that it was "hanging", tore the little bugger off. Nice. My sister thinks we should use those hole-punchers that you use in offices and schools. Those never seem to fail...'ker-chink". I can't believe in the year 2003 that we can't get a ballot that works better. Well, ya I can actually.

Next:
Nobody asked for any identification. I asked the 3 people sitting in the empty schoolroom/polling area about it and they said "you just need to tell us your name and street address, that's all we require."

I asked "Don't you think that's a little scary?"

They looked at me like I was a moron (small town). I said, "I know 10 people who live on my street...their names and addresses. I could vote for all of them! So could anyone else."

They didn't have an answer, though I heard them discussing this as I was voting. With all the terrorism, voter fraud, and considering the fiasco of the last presidential election, I would think these rules would be changed. I think some sort of ID should be mandatory. Scary.

Like it or not, history is being made tonight. Trip out.
 
Awww Davis is making his sad little goodbye (concession) speech now.

Ewps, I had my fax wrong.

Recall Yes 54% No 46%

Schwarzenneger 50%
Bustamante 31 %
 
MoeFaux said:
Jesse would make a good presidential runner.

I would have voted Larry Flynt, but then I saw Mary's platform and it was actually pretty good. And she's so cute and bubbly! And DAMN smart.
Ugh, I sure hope Ahnold doesn't turn Vegas into California East.
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Bustamante was out to turn California into a cheap looking Vegas West.
 
I'm surprised that people standing on the bleachers haven't started passing out yet...
 
Originally posted by MoeFaux I would have voted Larry Flynt, but then I saw Mary's platform and it was actually pretty good. And she's so cute and bubbly! And DAMN smart.
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Maybe you are being sarcastic, but I remember seeing her long before this craziness started. I'm not a big fan of the fake porn star types, but when listening to her, I thought she was interesting, and she made me smile. It wasn't even the big boobs, I swear. :)
 
Hmmm... Maybe I should have voted for Gallagher.

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The real question is how this will affect the Republican party in the long run. Arnold is arguably at least as liberal as Davis, apparently on the record favoring gay rights, abortion rights, gun regulations, and even in favor of some taxes, if his campaign commercials are to be believed.

In short, it's difficult to say at this point if the Republican party really won much. The party that put up Bill Simon (as opposed to the moderate Dick Riordan) against Davis just a little while ago. And lost. I just have trouble believing the conservatives sitting easy with this victory. The biggest weapon the Democrats may have is calling Arnold on all his moderate/liberal stances. Assuming he doesn't back pedal on them, perhaps it'll enrage the conservative rank and file enough to initiate a recall...
 
shecky said:
The real question is how this will affect the Republican party in the long run. Arnold is arguably at least as liberal as Davis, apparently on the record favoring gay rights, abortion rights, gun regulations, and even in favor of some taxes, if his campaign commercials are to be believed.
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The one way this could help is that being nominally Republican, Arnold maybe can sweet talk some Federal money out of the US Congress.

Not quite "the Republican way", but I daresay he wouldn't be the first Republican governor to do this.
 
shecky said:
The real question is how this will affect the Republican party in the long run.
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That's a good point. I think that part of what we, the people, (not some right wing conspiracy, as some nut-job wacko pantloads would have you believe) are tired of the GOP putting forth extremist candidates that can't win, and that don't represent the rank and file Republican voter. That's part of the problem that has allowed the democrats to run the greatest state in the union into the ground. The results aren't fully in yet, but from how it looks now, Arnold's margin of victory in this election is overwhelming, and should ber a shot across the bow for politics as usual...or so I hope.

Most people, I reckon, be they Democrats or Republicans, are far more moderate than the parties that claim to represent them claim.

FWIW: I couldn't be happier than I am that that bought and paid for piece of crap in a pinstripe suit is toast. But I give him points for being humble during his speech tonite (on the flip side of that, when a fella is normally as arrogant as Joe Davis comes across as humble, it makes a skeptic and cynic wonder WTF he's up to).

It should be an interesting couple of years.

Hopefully, the governator can reach out, and get bipartisan support to do what needs to be done in this state, in order to jump start the economy of this state, which should help the economy of the country. Which would be good for us all.

But there are so many levels of obstruction ahead....sigh. How quickly the optimist is overcome by the realist....
 
schplurg said:

I voted with a punchcard and I'll tell you what, I had a hanging chad, or non-hanging!!! I only punched 2 holes: one to vote Yes for the recall, one to vote for McClintock (woulda voted for Arnie just to get Davis out but I didn't need to, so I voted for who I felt was the "better" candidate). I skipped the other 2 initiatives as I was suspicious of any other items that got tacked onto the ballot. They were both defeated.

Voting problems:
Anyways, I looked at the ballot and one chad looked as if it hadn't been punched. I used my fingers, saw that it was "hanging", tore the little bugger off. Nice. My sister thinks we should use those hole-punchers that you use in offices and schools. Those never seem to fail...'ker-chink". I can't believe in the year 2003 that we can't get a ballot that works better. Well, ya I can actually.

Next:
Nobody asked for any identification. I asked the 3 people sitting in the empty schoolroom/polling area about it and they said "you just need to tell us your name and street address, that's all we require."

I asked "Don't you think that's a little scary?"

They looked at me like I was a moron (small town). I said, "I know 10 people who live on my street...their names and addresses. I could vote for all of them! So could anyone else."

They didn't have an answer, though I heard them discussing this as I was voting. With all the terrorism, voter fraud, and considering the fiasco of the last presidential election, I would think these rules would be changed. I think some sort of ID should be mandatory. Scary.

Like it or not, history is being made tonight. Trip out.
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They checked my ID and I actually saw one guy being turned away because he had no form of identification of any kind. I am sure he was a registered voter; he just flaked on that part.
 
I've never been asked for my ID to vote in Minnesota. I do think it would be a good idea.
 
It's a Barnum and Bailey world, just as phony as it can be,
but it wouldn't be make-believe if you believed in me...

Perhaps people truly do get the government they deserve. Arnold will be the Governor who represents the children and the people (apologies to Diana and Michael Jackson groupies)? And people actually voted for him on that platform not on how in the name of the IPU he is going to fix the economic problems of the world's sixth largest economy?

And people wonder why some parts of the world have yet to be convinced of the value of "democracy in action"...

Today, America, we ARE laughing at you.
 
reprise said:


Today, America, we ARE laughing at you.
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And this is something new?:D

Watching Gray Davis speech I think I realize why he lost. He is Mr. Roger's twin brother!
 
Denise said:


And this is something new?:D

Watching Gray Davis speech I think I realize why he lost. He is Mr. Roger's twin brother!
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Don't you guys ever actually evaluate the POLICIES your politicians are advocating before you vote for them? Didn't people actually consider Arnold's economic plan to get the state out of big-time fiscal crap and consider whether or not it was workable or not? Didn't his opponents take great pleasure in publicly pointing out why his financial rescue plans wouldn't work?
 
reprise said:


Don't you guys ever actually evaluate the POLICIES your politicians are advocating before you vote for them? Didn't people actually consider Arnold's economic plan to get the state out of big-time fiscal crap and consider whether or not it was workable or not? Didn't his opponents take great pleasure in publicly pointing out why his financial rescue plans wouldn't work?
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Well, I'm not in California. Don't think voter apathy is unique to the USA.
 
Denise said:


Well, I'm not in California. Don't think voter apathy is unique to the USA.
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I would agree with you there Denise, but when your state or your nation is in the economic hole which California is in right now then you have a vested interest in giving a rat's ass about who the hell is going to be running it in the short-term future and you'd sure has heck better understand the implications of the vote you cast or your choice not to cast one at all.

If Iraq proposed "free" elections which operated on the same basis as this one most of the Western world would - justifiably - accuse the candidates of being ill-equipped or under-qualified to assume the responsibilities of the office they sought to assume.[/b] [/quote]
 
reprise said:


I would agree with you there Denise, but when your state or your nation is in the economic hole which California is in right now then you have a vested interest in giving a rat's ass about who the hell is going to be running it in the short-term future and you'd sure has heck better understand the implications of the vote you cast or your choice not to cast one at all.

If Iraq proposed "free" elections which operated on the same basis as this one most of the Western world would - justifiably - accuse the candidates of being ill-equipped or under-qualified to assume the responsibilities of the office they sought to assume.
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I accidentally edited your post. I hope I restored it fully. I apologize. I wanted to say that my state elected an outsider and I think he did an outstanding job.
 
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