CNN Doxxes a gif maker

[BobTheCoward]

"CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change."

seems pretty cut and dried for the extortion game anyway.

I don't think it is extortion through blackmail. Blackmail involves secret material about a person. This is tying a person to public statements. Two different things.

 

[Belz...]

Seriously? You supported your position by insisting that the word table doesn't have a universally accepted definition. Table. Thats Stundie worthy. Table is in the dictionary, do you want a link to it?

It was a rhetorical device to try to get you to understand why your own claim about the definition of "fake news" being impossible to pin down was wrong. But if you want to get down to it, ok: is a stool a form of table? Seriously, this isn't a complex concept to grasp. And lay off the personalisations, please. That's why you were carded, not for off-topic discussions, by the way.

Anyhow, so Wikipedia is your best definition

Strawman.

"Fake news is written and published with the intent to mislead in order to gain financially or politically, often with sensationalist, exaggerated, or patently false headlines that grab attention."

What did I say?
"fake news is inaccurate and or irresponsible reporting that is attempting to push a false narrative."

So thats basically what I said unless you're being overly pedantic.

Why are you looking for a fight? I've already argued to Uke2se that your definition is adequate. It's you who then went on to say there wasn't a definition we could agree on, and sidestepped my question about determining intent in the process. Would you like to address it now?

Are you always this pedantic?

Cool, so you went from the possibility of me being pedantic to me definitely being pedantic even though I was agreeing with you.

 

[Belz...]

Poor CNN, they should be freely permitted to extort people who make gifs mocking them.

Poor CNN.

The abuse of language is getting out of hands. First it was threatening their wife, and now it's extortion!

 

[TheL8Elvis]

No free speech was suppressed. Freedom of speech does not mean immunity to the consequences of that speech. HanA**holeSolo spoke up. It was noticed. CNN investigated, and then he apologized and removed the posts. He could have just as easy as told CNN to go **** themselves and not apologized.

CNN also exercised it's freedom of speech. They are also, right now, paying for the consequences of that same (stupid) speech.

Apparently allowing for consequences make you a fascist

 

[Belz...]

I take it you also think Russia has absolutely nothing wrong relative to the US elections, then?

Where did I say that. Try reading what I'm writing.

<facepalm>

Can you not recognise a QUESTION when you see one?

 

[apathoid]

Wrong. Fake news is the Enquirer. Britebart. InfoWars.

That not the definition Argummemnon quoted. You guys need to get on the same page.

I don't get the sense you watch CNN. I am of the opinion that you gobble up talking points.

Dont watch CNN or Fox. I rarely watch TV at all, except for movie night and binge watching some of my shows. 24 hour news turns normal people into tards. I get my current events and political fill with various podcasts like the Rubin Report, Waking up with Sam Harris, Joe Rogan and shows like the Daily Show and Real Time.

This Russia drum NEEDS to be beat every single day. This is quite clearly on par with 9/11, Japanese Internement camps and pretty much any other of the darkest times in our history. That people like you stick your fingers in your ears and try to pretend it's "fake news" doesn't change the basic fact that it is in reality quite real news.

You hate Trump and want him gone, I get that. But don't attack me because I haven't swallowed the Russia BS hook, line and sinker. Tell me whos been charged with what crimes, then give me a trial so I can have all the evidence. Then I'll make an informed decision. You guys have decided the verdict already and youre just throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.

Reread the poll I linked. People don't trust the media. Their agenda and biases are blisteringly obvious. It's not just Republicans that feel that way, its the independents too.

 

[apathoid]

<facepalm>

Can you not recognise a QUESTION when you see one?

What is your deal?

 

[Belz...]

Perhaps. But there is no evidence that CNN extorted the reddit user into deleting all of his comments and issuing an apology. I'm not a mind reader, so I'll wait for facts, and evidence.

That's the skeptic in you.

 

[BobTheCoward]

That not the definition Argummemnon quoted. You guys need to get on the same page.

Those three organizations seem to meet the Wikipedia definition.

 

[Belz...]

What is your deal?

Did you already lose track of the conversation? I've asked you a question and you reacted as if I claimed you had answered it. I didn't. You didn't. I asked you a question. Kindly answer it.

While you're at it, answer my question about intent.

 

[Ziggurat]

Keep playing those refs.

There are no refs.

 

[TofuFighter]

Exactly what are CNN extorting from him?
extort: obtain (something) by force, threats, or other unfair means.

That he stops being a raging bigot online? Consider how much of a gain that is for them.

 

[apathoid]

Edited by zooterkin: 

<SNIP>
Edited for civility and rule 9.

 

[Ziggurat]

Did you already lose track of the conversation? I've asked you a question and you reacted as if I claimed you had answered it. I didn't. You didn't. I asked you a question. Kindly answer it.

While you're at it, answer my question about intent.

Do you beat your wife?

Asking a question doesn't just solicit information from another person. The question itself conveys information as well. In particular, it often conveys information about what the questioner considers possible. When you ask a question where one of the logical possibilities of the question is loaded, don't act surprise when people take offense to it.

You're playing games, Argumemnon. Stop pretending.

 

[The Big Dog]

Perhaps. But there is no evidence that CNN extorted the reddit user into deleting all of his comments and issuing an apology. I'm not a mind reader, so I'll wait for facts, and evidence.

well, you already have it, as I have already shown, CNN has doxxed this guy and as such he has taken down his posts and has not resurfaced based on the threat that CNN will out this guy if he does.

He should, because CNN ********** up in that Trump did not retweet this guy's post or even use the guy's gif.

 

[BobTheCoward]

well, you already have it, as I have already shown, CNN has doxxed this guy and as such he has taken down his posts and has not resurfaced based on the threat that CNN will out this guy if he does.

He should, because CNN ********** up in that Trump did not retweet this guy's post or even use the guy's gif.

By out you mean tie him to public statements he has made. What is wrong with that?

 

[Belz...]

Do you beat your wife?

Asking a question doesn't just solicit information from another person. The question itself conveys information as well. In particular, it often conveys information about what the questioner considers possible. When you ask a question where one of the logical possibilities of the question is loaded, don't act surprise when people take offense to it.

You're playing games, Argumemnon. Stop pretending.

I'm not playing games. I'm asking a very clear question based on a logical possibility brought up by another poster's statements.

It is in no way similar to "do you still beat your wife?" because there is no "trap" answer he can give. Both answers "Yes and No" are perfectly legitimate, and they lead to my follow-up question in the case of the negative.

I know you're accusing me of playing games because I've called you on exactly that in the past, but this sort of obsession with reflecting stuff back at people became old after grade school. Let it go.

 

[TofuFighter]

deleted before its cruise to AAH with the others

 

[Shalamar]

well, you already have it, as I have already shown,

You've done nothing of the sort.

CNN has doxxed this guy

They have not. No personal information was released.

and as such he has taken down his posts and has not resurfaced based

You posted something actually factual! I'm so proud of you!

on the threat that CNN will out this guy if he does.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. I wasn't there. I do not work at CNN. I'm not HanA**holeSolo. I can speculate, and what CNN did was, well, pretty stupid and terrible.

He should, because CNN ********** up in that Trump did not retweet this guy's post or even use the guy's gif.

And that is his right.

 

[The Big Dog]

By out you mean tie him to public statements he has made. What is wrong with that?

It is extremely unethical, obviously.