Cloning extinct creatures.

If it becomes possible to clone neanderthals then I think it would be ok to do so as long as a viable community can be cloned also. They would lead a priviliged existence and in time may even become true celebrities.
Why?

How do yo make a viable community of Neanderthals?

How do you raise them?

How do you study them?

Cainkane1, there was actually a point to my humour. Remember the discovery of Homo Floresiensis? There was a very interesting discussion of what we'd do if we found them on some isolated island living today.
 
They can do that on sundays. The other six days of the week will be manual labour, of course.:D

Naturally. ;)

Back on topic, I would support very limited cloning for research purposes. But as Jackman says, I believe the real ethical considerations are after the cloning is successful.

PS I'd love to see a Dodo cloned. Too bad we only have pieces of a physical specimen.
 
Most of the questions I'm seeing would appear to be more issues of practicality than of ethics. Clone a neanderthal or an extinct species requires potentially also cloning extinct food sources for those species, unless current day alternatives would suffice. Yet you wouldn't know that for sure until the cloning had already taken place and a viable specimen is at your feet.

If cloning an extinct species is to be useful, then these considerations would obviously have to be taken into account. No sense cloning an extinct species, only to have it die within weeks as there are no viable food sources / habitats for them.

I think any cloning undertaken, should have a specified goal. We've cloned extinct species A because we wish to answer questions B and C. There should be a scientific purpose behind cloning, rather than just cloning stuff for the sake of cloning it. Again, I see this not from an ethical stand-point, but one of practicality.

"Look we spent time and money cloning a Dodo."
"Excellent, what burning scientific questions have we gained insight into as a result?"
"Uhhh....hey look, we named it Frank."

To my mind, cloning an entire viable community of an extinct species is far more worrisome than cloning a single specimen. You now have an extinct species, re-introduced to a changed environment, and you must now commit to caring and growing that community....to what end result? To what consequence?

I don't think any of these scenario's is hands down unethical. I think it depends on the consequences, and the considerations and goals laid out as justification for the cloning of a species.
 
Forget whether or not it will be possible. The real question is "should we"? A few posters in this thread have mentioned the ethical issues. Neanderthals and mammoths had their chance. They went extinct for a reason. We shouldn't bring them back.

By that argument we shouldn't try to conserve anything. Anything that goes extinct does so for a reason. There are valid ethical arguments about cloning exticnt animals, or any animals for that matter, but the "they're supposed to be extinct" argument just doesn't cut it.

I disagree.

We'll leave it at that.

I'd actually like to explore this a little further, if that's OK?

Go ahead.

I've started a new thread, since it is kind of a sideline to the topic. I'm looking forward to bujin's and Cuddles' contributions.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2852162
 
Of course we should clone Neanderthals.

Rush Limbaugh isn't going to live forever.
 
I'm going to bump this one out of sheer geeky excitement at the very idea of being able to clone a dinosaur (yes, I saw JP3 again the other day).

Is there really no chance whatever of finding enough DNA of any particular species to be able to one day create a "real" (ish) Tyrannosaur (say?).

Ethics smethics. I want my T-Rex!
 
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