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[sunmaster14]

The State Department made its last production of materials to the House Oversight Committee on April 17, 2014. In all the time from the very first document request, State had never turned over a single email to or from Clinton.

I have yet to see an explanation for how this was not an immediate giant red flag. ZERO emails, but no one thought to look into it until 2 years later ?

It's possible that they thought Hillary didn't use email. Her husband didn't. And her predecessor didn't use email very much either.

Which of the prior ones do you think were doing it ? Or is it really a case of business as usual ?

The DOJ is supposed to be independent and objective, but even if there is an obvious conflict of interest (which there didn't have to be in this case), it's possible to bring in an independent special counsel. The Bush DOJ brought in Patrick Fitzgerald to investigate the Valerie Plame affair and Nora Dannehy to investigate the US attorneys firing controversy.

 

[Newtons Bit]

The State Department made its last production of materials to the House Oversight Committee on April 17, 2014. In all the time from the very first document request, State had never turned over a single email to or from Clinton.

I have yet to see an explanation for how this was not an immediate giant red flag. ZERO emails, but no one thought to look into it until 2 years later ?



Which of the prior ones do you think were doing it ? Or is it really a case of business as usual ?

NM, I understand what you mean D:

 

[The Big Dog]

Hillary used Two Email devices

It should come as no surprise to anyone at any time that Hillary Clinton was not telling the truth when she said she was using a single device for "convenience."

Hillary Clinton used a blackberry and an IPad to conduct official government business/

Still no explanation why she set up a cowboy server in her house.

Note, State Department just turned emails to the AP in response to a 2013 FOIA request regarding drone strikes, because who could care about that?

 

[plague311]

It should come as no surprise to anyone at any time that Hillary Clinton was not telling the truth when she said she was using a single device for "convenience."

Hillary Clinton used a blackberry and an IPad to conduct official government business/

An iPad and a cell phone are two different things, especially when it comes to a blackberry. Blackberry's had (at that time) very limited access to websites, or a decent app market. In fact, Blackberry's app market today is still crap. Technically she could have accessed her email from anywhere, not just those two devices. I'm, also, pretty sure she was referring to two cell phones, an iPad isn't a cell phone. In fact, in 2009, about the only thing the two had in common was that they could retrieve email. Other than that tablets, generally, didn't make phone calls, they ran on Wi-Fi not a network (especially overseas), and so on.

Still no explanation why she set up a cowboy server in her house.

Why should she have to explain? You keep insinuating that having a personal server is extremely advanced or unusual when it is actually the opposite. Having a personal server (er...sorry. COWBOY, HOMEBREW SERVERZ OMGZ WUT?!?!?!?), is common. Anyone with an old computer they don't use can set one up in under an hour. Probably way less than an hour depending on how savvy they are, or how well they can google the instructions.

Note, State Department just turned emails to the AP in response to a 2013 FOIA request regarding drone strikes, because who could care about that?

Huh? I thought this was about "Benghazi!!! OMGZ WUT?!" This is about drone strikes now?

 

[The Big Dog]

An iPad and a cell phone ....

She was not talking about two cell phones, that is absurd.

Why should she have to explain?

Because she was unilaterally storing governmental documents on it. C'mon man.

Huh? I thought this was about "Benghazi!!! OMGZ WUT?!" This is about drone strikes now?

And BAE Systems, and Huma's employment, and Drone strikes, and her communications with her formers aide's secret spy network, and violation of the lobbyist registrations law, and fund raising for the Clinton group etc, etc, .

/By the way, if you want anyone to take you seriously (and i understand that you may not) you may wish to drop the juvenile "Benghazi!!! OMGZ WUT?!" stuff.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

It should come as no surprise to anyone at any time that Hillary Clinton was not telling the truth when she said she was using a single device for "convenience."

Hillary Clinton used a blackberry and an IPad to conduct official government business/

Still no explanation why she set up a cowboy server in her house.

Note, State Department just turned emails to the AP in response to a 2013 FOIA request regarding drone strikes, because who could care about that?

Can you please explain why you believe that sending an email from more than one device proves that she "was not telling the truth when she said she was using a single device for "convenience." ?

I don't even see how it leads to the inference she lied, much less any kind of proof.

I'm not following the logic ... ( probably because there isn't any)

 

[TheL8Elvis]

It's possible that they thought Hillary didn't use email. Her husband didn't. And her predecessor didn't use email very much either.

Thanks. That is an explanation. Not at all believable, IMHO, but nevertheless an explanation.

 

[The Big Dog]

Can you please explain why you believe that sending an email from more than one device proves that she "was not telling the truth when she said she was using a single device for "convenience." ?

I don't even see how it leads to the inference she lied, much less any kind of proof.

I'm not following the logic ... ( probably because there isn't any)

At the United Nations earlier this month, Clinton said she chose a personal account over a government one out of convenience, describing it as a way to carry a single device, rather than one for work emails and another for personal messages.

“Looking back, it would have been probably, you know, smarter to have used two devices,” Clinton said. Her office that day released a statement saying she “wanted the simplicity of using one device”.

Except she did use two devices.

She lied.

 

[plague311]

She was not talking about two cell phones, that is absurd.

yeah, out of all of this that is absurd. I'm not going to get into the intricacies of cell networks overseas, but I do know it's much easier to use a cell phone abroad, than it is to use an iPad. Especially when they weren't able to connect to a network and had to be used on Wi-Fi. The Wi-Fi and data connections aren't the same worldwide.

Because she was unilaterally storing governmental documents on it. C'mon man.

That doesn't mean she set it up to do specifically that, and she doesn't have to explain why she has a server to anyone. Also, I don't think you know what unilaterally means, because a portion of her emails were saved on government servers. She also stored a ton of personal property on it, and probably so did her family. The server wasn't designed to skirt the system, it just so happened that she used her server for email. She's turned over those emails, and they are being\have been reviewed by the committee. C'mon man!

And BAE Systems, and Huma's employment, and Drone strikes, and her communications with her formers aide's secret spy network, and violation of the lobbyist registrations law, and fund raising for the Clinton group etc, etc, .

You have no right to know about her fund raising, or most of the other garbage you've been complaining about.

/By the way, if you want anyone to take you seriously (and i understand that you may not) you may wish to drop the juvenile "Benghazi!!! OMGZ WUT?!" stuff.

Is it as juvenile as your lame outrage at Benghazi? You can take me as seriously as I take you. I do it to make a point and I have no intentions of stopping. Just like you have no intentions of stopping your references to her "cowboy server, homebrew, illegal, blah blah blah" that you have yet to support. Quit responding to me if you don't like it, or put me on ignore. That's why it's there, if you don't want to, then I would suggest getting over it.

 

[The Big Dog]

snip...

You have no right to know about her fund raising, or most of the other garbage you've been complaining about. ....

Quit responding to me if you don't like it, or put me on ignore.

The American Public have no RIGHT to see emails regarding whether The Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars from seven foreign governments during Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state, including one donation that violated its ethics agreement with the Obama administration. That is "garbage" to even ask!

Is it traditional for Hillary apologists to never cite any sources whatsoever?

Well, whatever, plague311 finally made at least one good point right there at the end.

 

[DavidJames]

The Gish, they be galloping now.

 

[sunmaster14]

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That doesn't mean she set it up to do specifically that, and she doesn't have to explain why she has a server to anyone. Also, I don't think you know what unilaterally means, because a portion of her emails were saved on government servers. She also stored a ton of personal property on it, and probably so did her family. The server wasn't designed to skirt the system, it just so happened that she used her server for email. She's turned over those emails, and they are being\have been reviewed by the committee. C'mon man!

C'mon man! Of course she used the server to skirt the system. That was the whole point. Everybody who's paying attention knows that. And Hillary knows that everybody who's paying attention knows that. The only question is whether everybody who's paying attention knows that Hillary knows that everybody who's paying attention knows that.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

At the United Nations earlier this month, Clinton said she chose a personal account over a government one out of convenience, describing it as a way to carry a single device, rather than one for work emails and another for personal messages.

“Looking back, it would have been probably, you know, smarter to have used two devices,” Clinton said. Her office that day released a statement saying she “wanted the simplicity of using one device”.

Except she did use two devices.

She lied.

No, she didn't lie.

I hilited some words you may be having trouble with.

Using a second device at some point in time is not inconsistent with the concept of carrying a single device.

And even if you have 2 devices at some point in time, the concept of carrying a single device may still be considered more convenient.

 

[The Big Dog]

No, she didn't lie.

I hilited some words you may be having trouble with.

Using a second device at some point in time is not inconsistent with the concept of carrying a single device.

And even if you have 2 devices at some point in time, the concept of carrying a single device may still be considered more convenient.

That is some next level spin. Here I am using actual quotes and actual cites like a sucker when I could be making stuff up like you.

Hillary Clinton's one device for emails excuse was bs

 

[TheL8Elvis]

That is some next level spin.

Spin ?

You neglected to actually address my point.

Here I am using actual quotes and actual cites like a sucker when I could be making stuff up like you.

Hillary Clinton's one device for emails excuse was bs

Yes, you quoted someone claiming she lied. The logic is flawed whether you say or quote someone else. You haven't demonstrated a lie.

And, I'm curious ... what exactly did I "make up" ?

 

[The Big Dog]

Spin ?

You neglected to actually address my point.

Yes, you quoted someone claiming she lied. The logic is flawed whether you say or quote someone else. You haven't demonstrated a lie.

And, I'm curious ... what exactly did I "make up" ?

Your point was completely made up spin. She said she used one device in her press conference. Now we find out that was not true. She was using two devices. Now you are wildly speculating that she may have done so because she might have found that equally convenient, or some such nonsense.

Stop making up excuses for her.

It wasn't enough that her own personal blackberry was a potential security risk, now we find out that she was running her emails off of a blackberry and an iPad.

My firm does not allow that because of the security risks involved.

But Hillary found it more convenient to use any old device she wanted, she just forgot to, you know, mention it.

eta: WaPo thinks she is full of beans too

By the way, the hilarious thing is the AP caught her in a lie after reading just FOUR emails.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Your point was completely made up spin. She said she used one device in her press conference.

Yes, it was me making things up

Yet somehow you think:

At the United Nations earlier this month, Clinton said she chose a personal account over a government one out of convenience, describing it as a way to carry a single device, rather than one for work emails and another for personal messages.

Is the same as "She said she used one device in her press conference."



You used the quote just a few posts back, and now feel the need to completely misrepresent what was actually said. Why ?

 

[The Big Dog]

At the United Nations earlier this month, Clinton said she chose a personal account over a government one out of convenience, describing it as a way to carry a single device, rather than one for work emails and another for personal messages.

“Looking back, it would have been probably, you know, smarter to have used two devices,” Clinton said. Her office that day released a statement saying she “wanted the simplicity of using one device”.
Except she did use two devices.

She lied.

Yes, it was me making things up

Yet somehow you think:


Is the same as "She said she used one device in her press conference."



You used the quote just a few posts back, and now feel the need to completely misrepresent what was actually said. Why ?

Unbelievable......

It was two sentences long.... it was the actual exact quote... and he missed it.

 

[Sherkeu]

It isn't exactly "convenient" to have one device when you cannot send and receive any classified information with it. Especially when you are the top diplomat in the world dealing in lots of classified intel.

How did she get her information? Which one of her staff had the secure line and was with her at all times? How does she read something that is for "her eyes only"?

It really stretches the imagination to think she had to go through an aide every time she wanted remote access to something classified. That sounds super inconvenient to me.

 

[mgidm86]

No, she didn't lie.

I hilited some words you may be having trouble with.

Using a second device at some point in time is not inconsistent with the concept of carrying a single device.

And even if you have 2 devices at some point in time, the concept of carrying a single device may still be considered more convenient.

Do you think she didn't have a phone with her when she carried her iPad? That seems hard to believe. I guess it's possible she only used the iPad at home curled up in front of the fire, but more than likely she carried it somewhere. I feel a bit silly getting in on this part of the argument, but you are really reaching here. The person being the most silly though, is Hillary.

She said:

“Looking back, it would have been probably, you know, smarter to have used two devices,” Clinton said. Her office that day released a statement saying she “wanted the simplicity of using one device”.

We now know she did use two devices. She can't seem to come clean about anything. The only thing transparent about her is her evasiveness. Actually that could be considered a point in her favor if you twist it a little. At least we know how and when she's full of excrement.

Whether or not any laws were broken, she has done, and continues to do everything she can to keep the contents of her communications under her complete control. She can't even keep her own stories straight.