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Ed Clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham Part 3

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Hillary's cowboy server wrangler Bryan Pagliano is sitting for his deposition right now, expected to do little more than take the Fifth.

Which is odd, because I was told that there was no criminal investigation by Hillary Clinton.

What ever is going on here?
 
Are you certain? Because I have it on good authority from certain posters that you are a "shillary", as is anyone else who doesn't get their news from Fox or further right sources.

LoL yeah, it took me a little while to realize I wasn't after being told I was so many times. Just because I find certain accusations ridiculous I guess that means that I love everything about Hillary.
 
Hillary's cowboy server wrangler Bryan Pagliano is sitting for his deposition right now, expected to do little more than take the Fifth.

Which is odd, because I was told that there was no criminal investigation by Hillary Clinton.

What ever is going on here?

He took the 5th 125 times in his deposition.

Nothing to see here folks.
 
He was going to take the 5th on everything. Why the **** does the number of times he said it even make a bit of difference? I don't get it.

I'm so glad you bolded, and made it massive. You know, to really emphasize exactly how pointless, and redundant you saying it is. Thanks :rolleyes:
 
LoL yeah, it took me a little while to realize I wasn't after being told I was so many times. Just because I find certain accusations ridiculous I guess that means that I love everything about Hillary.

Yep, reminds me of being called a Republican, for disliking HRC.:id:
 
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(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced it obtained U.S. State Department records referenced in the May 2016 State Department’s Office of the Inspector General report criticizing former Secretary of State Clinton’s email practices. The OIG report references the records, which include new Clinton emails, but the records were not released to the public until now.

“The new Hillary Clinton email records show she had zero interest in disclosing her emails to the public as the law requires,” stated Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton. “And the emails show the Obama State Department gave special accommodations to Clinton’s email system, which the agency knew was unsecure, was likely hacked, and was not transparent under FOIA.”
 
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced it obtained U.S. State Department records referenced in the May 2016 State Department’s Office of the Inspector General report criticizing former Secretary of State Clinton’s email practices. The OIG report references the records, which include new Clinton emails, but the records were not released to the public until now.

“The new Hillary Clinton email records show she had zero interest in disclosing her emails to the public as the law requires,” stated Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton. “And the emails show the Obama State Department gave special accommodations to Clinton’s email system, which the agency knew was unsecure, was likely hacked, and was not transparent under FOIA.”

Remind me why I should care about Tom Fittons opinion ?

Oh yeah,I don't.
 
He took the 5th 125 times in his deposition.

Nothing to see here folks.

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/h...-benghazi-committee-questions/article/2571781

By SARAH WESTWOOD (@SARAHCWESTWOOD) • 9/10/15 2:13 PM

A House Benghazi committee interview with former State Department aide Bryan Pagliano, who managed Hillary Clinton's private email network, lasted only 15 minutes Thursday after he refused to answer questions.

Indeed, we have already seen this and there is, in fact, nothing to see.
 
Yep, reminds me of being called a Republican, for disliking HRC.:id:

Or being called a Trump supporter because you don't agree with every single criticism anyone says about him.

I think in another thread it was said that Trump could do anything, even shoot someone, and his followers would still support him. I read a comment today (not here) from a Clinton supporter who said even if a new video came out showing Clinton pointing a gun to Vince fosters head, they would still support Clinton.

The abilily to ignore a blatantly terrible candidate isn't the sole domain of Trump supporters.

Trump supports believe Trump is great and Clinton is terrible. Clinton supporters believe Clinton is great and Trump is terrible. But they're both wrong. They're both terrible.
 
I think in another thread it was said that Trump could do anything, even shoot someone, and his followers would still support him. I read a comment today (not here) from a Clinton supporter who said even if a new video came out showing Clinton pointing a gun to Vince fosters head, they would still support Clinton.
Trump said that. Unless you have a quote from HRC, it's a useless comparison. I would like to see the quote you referred to though.
 
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He took the 5th 125 times in his deposition.

Nothing to see here folks.

Or, putting it differently, partisan investigators asked him 124 questions that they knew he wouldn't answer.


The reason they take the fifth in such cases is they know that there are a lot of rules and regulations that may or may not have been broken, some of which could, technically, be violations of laws, and which people will go to no ends to try to turn into prosecutable offenses. Even if there were no laws broken, any slight misspeak or error in testimony could be spun as perjury, obstruction, or contempt of court/congress. It's a no win situation. Taking the fifth is the only safe course.
 
Really? Discussing an future drone strike on a non-classified network doesn't sound like something worth mentioning?

It "sounds like" something worth mentioning, so I googled it and found, on further review, that it was nothing worth mentioning
 
It "sounds like" something worth mentioning, so I googled it and found, on further review, that it was nothing worth mentioning

Just for the record, your experience working with colleagues who treated their responsibilities regarding classified information rather cavalierly is nothing like mine. I've worked short stints at both a nuclear weapons lab and a non-profit contractor doing cryptanalysis research for the NSA, and I and everybody I knew were dead serious about the rules. Dead serious. In fact, at the initial orientation at both places, they spent hours telling me about all of the negligent employees who had their lives destroyed by not treating classified information seriously. Almost all of the cases involved people taking classified work home with them for the sole purpose of working after hours. And in all cases, the minimum punishment was termination and a lifetime ban from having a security clearance. Some people did in fact go to jail.
 
Or, putting it differently, partisan investigators asked him 124 questions that they knew he wouldn't answer.


The reason they take the fifth in such cases is they know that there are a lot of rules and regulations that may or may not have been broken, some of which could, technically, be violations of laws, and which people will go to no ends to try to turn into prosecutable offenses. Even if there were no laws broken, any slight misspeak or error in testimony could be spun as perjury, obstruction, or contempt of court/congress. It's a no win situation. Taking the fifth is the only safe course.

Actually you ask the questions to build a record so that you might take the questions to the judge to rule on the assertion of the privilege.

Further, taking the Fifth is a civil case is "not the safe course" as it may create the presumption that the testimony would have been harmful.

Your understanding of the actual issues here and the actual law is grossly flawed.

The "safe course" is not to lie, but hey: The Clintons.
 
Just for the record, your experience working with colleagues who treated their responsibilities regarding classified information rather cavalierly is nothing like mine. I've worked short stints at both a nuclear weapons lab and a non-profit contractor doing cryptanalysis research for the NSA, and I and everybody I knew were dead serious about the rules. Dead serious. In fact, at the initial orientation at both places, they spent hours telling me about all of the negligent employees who had their lives destroyed by not treating classified information seriously. Almost all of the cases involved people taking classified work home with them for the sole purpose of working after hours. And in all cases, the minimum punishment was termination and a lifetime ban from having a security clearance. Some people did in fact go to jail.

But c'mon, he "googled" it.
 
Just for the record, your experience working with colleagues who treated their responsibilities regarding classified information rather cavalierly is nothing like mine. I've worked short stints at both a nuclear weapons lab and a non-profit contractor doing cryptanalysis research for the NSA, and I and everybody I knew were dead serious about the rules. Dead serious. In fact, at the initial orientation at both places, they spent hours telling me about all of the negligent employees who had their lives destroyed by not treating classified information seriously. Almost all of the cases involved people taking classified work home with them for the sole purpose of working after hours. And in all cases, the minimum punishment was termination and a lifetime ban from having a security clearance. Some people did in fact go to jail.

A guy at my wife's work inferred something that was classified (but didn't know it was classified, had no way of knowing it was classified) and talked about that thing (whatever it was) on an email chain to a bunch of different people.

The security staff came by, grabbed everyone's computer and physically destroyed them.

This is apparently so common it's routine. And yet, Hillary does this thousands of times on her system, and the government sends the people holding the hard drive a safe to put the hard drive in. What do you want to bet that all the hard drives that had this stuff on them outside of Clinton's hands (at state, or other peoples personal email) have already been confiscated and destroyed?
 
Just for the record, your experience working with colleagues who treated their responsibilities regarding classified information rather cavalierly is nothing like mine.



Let's be clear here. There wasn't a whole lot of "cavalier" attitude toward classified data. I cited two incidents.

In the first, the guy who took home the documents was fired. He just wasn't prosecuted. He was, on the other hand, allowed to come back and work after three years, so that's different than your experience. On the other hand, we weren't exactly the NSA.

The other incident I described was a case where I wrote an unclassified document, on an unclassified computer, and found out later that someone had seen the document, and decided it ought to be classified. The reason it was classified was that it had some numbers on it that could, in theory, be useful, and those numbers were obsolete by the time I found out it was classified.

These two incidents had direct bearing on things related to how awful Hillary Clinton was. First, people insisted that little people who treated classified documents the way Hillary did would be in jail. The first incident demonstrates it wasn't true. Your own anecdote also demonstrates it wasn't true, because you noted that some people went to jail, but others were fired. (I'll bet that darned few went to jail. You have to do something pretty blatant to go to jail. No one who took documents home to put in extra time went to jail. Fired, yes. Jail? No. If they did, there were some special circumstances involved.) Second, people act as if there is no difference between having a document that is unclassified, but subsequently becomes classified, versus having a document that is marked classified. Actually, there's a big difference.

This stuff about Laureate (?) University might have some meat to it. This email stuff? I would be very surprised.
 
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