Ed Clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham Part 3

[Fudbucker]

That part you quoted (again) was previously quoted. What was left out was the portion I just quoted.

I understand there is an opinion in there that Clinton is the subject of a criminal investigation. She might be.

But I thought it was more important to put to rest this fallacious notion that all the FBI does is criminal investigations. That's simply not correct.

And it relates directly to the two two questions you have been ignoring.

What did I ignore? Why Comey calls it an investigation? I responded to that.

 

[The Big Dog]

Oh well, you literally get a court order entered by a judge who specifically reviewed documents from the FBI in connection with the investigation and the Judge enters an order saying it is a "criminal investigation," but you get "skeptics" who decide, Nah, I'm just going to go with what ever Hillary said.

LOLZ!

 

[TheL8Elvis]

What did I ignore? Why Comey calls it an investigation? I responded to that.

post 295. Sorry if i missed your responses

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Oh well, you literally get a court order entered by a judge who specifically reviewed documents from the FBI in connection with the investigation and the Judge enters an order saying it is a "criminal investigation," but you get "skeptics" who decide, Nah, I'm just going to go with what ever Hillary said.

LOLZ!

With what the Director of the FBI didn't say. LULZ !

 

[Fudbucker]

Maybe Comey refers to everything as an "investigation". Has he ever used the phrase "criminal investigation"?

 

[wareyin]

Maybe Comey refers to everything as an "investigation". Has he ever used the phrase "criminal investigation"?

If the director refuses to call it criminal, why do you insist on doing so?

 

[Fudbucker]

If the director refuses to call it criminal, why do you insist on doing so?

For the same reason Hillary insisted it was a "security review".

I'll add that a few more people have agreed with me than Hillary (WH Press Secretary, this judge we're talking about).

 

[wareyin]

For the same reason Hillary insisted it was a "security review".

I'll add that a few more people have agreed with me than Hillary (WH Press Secretary, this judge we're talking about).

Again, Comey knows far more about the investigation than you do, or the judge, or the WH Press Secretary who misspoke. Your partisan criticisms are noted, but lacking in veracity.

 

[xjx388]

Ask Comey. He's a lot more knowledgeable as to what is being investigated than 16.5 or Fudbucker, yet he won't use that phrase while they do.

Well, good, at least we have an admission that it's an investigation. Comey has said that he's conducting an investigation and that he's never heard of a "security inquiry." I don't care if he ever uses the word, "criminal." We all know what the FBI does. They certainly don't conduct security inquiries.

Couple that with Judge Sullivan's very clear statement that the investigation is criminal and now we know that what is going on is clearly a criminal investigation.

Denying that makes no sense. Insisting that others are trying to make things sound worse than they are doesn't either.

 

[The Big Dog]

From Hillary's website:

Is Department of Justice conducting a criminal inquiry into Clinton’s email use?

No

That gets the Shillary Stamp of Approval!

From the Judge who actually reviewed Documents from the FBI Investigation:

Indeed, the privacy interests at stake are high because the government's criminal investigation through which Mr. Pagliano received limited immunity is ongoing and confidential.

That rates six thumbs down from the Shillaries.

 

[wareyin]

Well, good, at least we have an admission that it's an investigation. Comey has said that he's conducting an investigation and that he's never heard of a "security inquiry." I don't care if he ever uses the word, "criminal." We all know what the FBI does. They certainly don't conduct security inquiries.

Actually, they certainly do.

Couple that with Judge Sullivan's very clear statement that the investigation is criminal and now we know that what is going on is clearly a criminal investigation.

Remind me again, how much of the FBI investigation that Judge Sullivan is privy to?

Denying that makes no sense. Insisting that others are trying to make things sound worse than they are doesn't either.

Insisting on using terms that the FBI themselves refuse to use isn't trying to make things sound worse? That makes no sense to me.

 

[xjx388]

Again, Comey knows far more about the investigation than you do, or the judge, or the WH Press Secretary who misspoke. Your partisan criticisms are noted, but lacking in veracity.

Are you saying here that it's not a criminal investigation? If so, then:

Given that:

1. Comey has indicated that it's an investigation and has never heard of a security inquiry.
2. The judge who reviewed relevant paperwork regarding a connected immunity deal called it a criminal investigation.

What else can we, desirous as we are to be as non-partisan as possible, possibly call this?

 

[wareyin]

Are you saying here that it's not a criminal investigation? If so, then:

Given that:

1. Comey has indicated that it's an investigation and has never heard of a security inquiry.
2. The judge who reviewed relevant paperwork regarding a connected immunity deal called it a criminal investigation.

What else can we, desirous as we are to be as non-partisan as possible, possibly call this?

Being non-partisan, one would call it "an investigation", like Comey, the FBI Director.

 

[xjx388]

Actually, they certainly do.

Funny, then, that FBI Director Comey has never heard of a security inquiry. He was pretty clear on that point.

Remind me again, how much of the FBI investigation that Judge Sullivan is privy to?

Much more than you or I. He reviewed an immunity deal connected to the investigation which led him to clearly state that said investigation is a criminal one.

Insisting on using terms that the FBI themselves refuse to use isn't trying to make things sound worse? That makes no sense to me.

Direct me to where Comey "refused," to use the term. The fact that he didn't use the term doesn't indicate that he "refused." He said, according to Fox News:

But when asked Wednesday by Fox News about Clinton's characterization of the bureau's probe, FBI Director James Comey said he doesn’t know what "security inquiry" means -- adding, “We’re conducting an investigation. … That’s what we do.”

The FBI director reiterated that he’s “not familiar with the term security inquiry” when told that is the phrase Clinton has used.

I don't see a refusal to use a term there, just a careful political answer.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Well, good, at least we have an admission that it's an investigation. Comey has said that he's conducting an investigation and that he's never heard of a "security inquiry." I don't care if he ever uses the word, "criminal." We all know what the FBI does. They certainly don't conduct security inquiries.

Couple that with Judge Sullivan's very clear statement that the investigation is criminal and now we know that what is going on is clearly a criminal investigation.

Denying that makes no sense. Insisting that others are trying to make things sound worse than they are doesn't either.

Clearly you don't.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/a-new-fbi-focus

 

[xjx388]

Being non-partisan, one would call it "an investigation", like Comey, the FBI Director.

And what, the FBI does investigations for ***** and giggles? Can we get the FBI to investigate the causes of global warming?

TO characterize an FBI investigation as criminal is just the plain truth; that's what they do. There's nothing partisan about it.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Funny, then, that FBI Director Comey has never heard of a security inquiry. He was pretty clear on that point.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-investigation-hillary-clintons-emails-recap/

Clinton’s phrasing — calling it a "security inquiry" — is not necessarily wrong, said Mark Pollitt, former chief of the FBI’s computer forensics program. But it obscures the fact that an investigation can be both security-related and criminal.

It clearly seems possible for the FBI to conduct security-related investigations that are both security-related and criminal.
Therefore it clearly seems possible for the FBI to conduct security-related investigations that are either security-related or criminal, but not both.
Hmmmm.....

Much more than you or I. He reviewed an immunity deal connected to the investigation which led him to clearly state that said investigation is a criminal one.

Direct me to where Comey "refused," to use the term. The fact that he didn't use the term doesn't indicate that he "refused." He said, according to Fox News:

I don't see a refusal to use a term there, just a careful political answer.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...arks-during-may-11-pen-and-pad-with-reporters

Catherine: On the e-mails are you doing a security inquiry?

Director Comey: I don’t know what that means?

Catherine: So it’s a criminal investigation? Director Comey: We’re conducting an investigation. That’s the bureau’s business. That’s what we do. That’s probably all I can say about it.

Catherine: The reason I ask is because Mrs. Clinton consistently refers to it as a security inquiry, but the FBI does criminal investigations. I just want to see if you can clear that up.

Director Comey: Right, it’s in our name.

 

[xjx388]

Clearly you don't.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/a-new-fbi-focus

Where in that wall of text does the FBI indicate it does anything but investigate criminal matters? The current Director isn't familiar with the term "security inquiry" so I think it stands to reason the FBI doesn't do "security inquiries."

 

[xjx388]

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It obscures the fact that it is a criminal investigation related to security issues. That's what I got from that. The FBI doesn't do investigations related to security issues that don't have criminal possibilities.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...arks-during-may-11-pen-and-pad-with-reporters

Catherine: On the e-mails are you doing a security inquiry?

Director Comey: I don’t know what that means?

Catherine: So it’s a criminal investigation? Director Comey: We’re conducting an investigation. That’s the bureau’s business. That’s what we do. That’s probably all I can say about it.
Catherine: The reason I ask is because Mrs. Clinton consistently refers to it as a security inquiry, but the FBI does criminal investigations. I just want to see if you can clear that up. Director Comey: Right, it’s in our name.

He very clearly acknowledged that it's a criminal investigation. I'm not sure how this is supposed to be evidence that he "refused" to call it that or that it isn't indeed a criminal investigation. He may not have used the word but he didn't correct "Catherine's" use of the term. "Right," was his answer to, "but the FBI does criminal investigations." He may be limited in what he can say -for many reasons legal and political- but he acknowledged it very clearly there.

 

[Tony Stark]

So when the FBI concludes that their investigation found no evidence of criminal wrongdoing on Hillary's part, how are you Republicans going to react?

Maybe some sort of conspiracy theory where Obama ordered them to cover it up?