BeAChooser
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Since you raise the issue, let's talk about the evidence suggesting Vince Foster did NOT commit suicide. You realize that an assertion that Foster was depressed was ALL Fiske, Starr, the Clinton DOJ, the Clinton White House and the liberal media had to support the suicide theory. But that assertion is full of gaping holes and lies. Here's the proof.
Fiske claimed that Foster's weight loss was "obvious to many". But Foster's medical records are consistent with Foster losing no weight, based on his weight just before starting his White House job and his weight when he died. They indicate he weighed 207 pounds in August of 1990. On December 31, 1992, at a physical the month before he went to Washington, he weighed 194 pounds, and according to his doctor's notes was on a diet and exercising. Foster's autopsy weight was 197 pounds. So in fact, the records show that foster gained about 3 pounds from the start of employment to his death. Fiske lied.
Fiske claimed the Foster family doctor prescribed an "anti-depressant" the day before the death. The doctor, however, told the FBI that he did not think Foster was significantly depressed and that the prescription was merely to help Foster sleep better. The amount of the drug he proscribed was about one-fifth the initial average daily dosage to treat depression which supports the doctor's explanation. Fiske lied.
The FBI and Foster claimed that Lisa Foster said her husband was "fighting depression." But the handwritten FBI interview notes from May 9, 1994 show that she told the investigators he was "fighting" a "prescription" for sleeping pills dispensed several months earlier for insomnia. According to Lisa, he was concerned the sleeping pills could be addictive. But the typed FD-302 report of the interview states in the equivalent location that Foster had been "fighting depression." In other words, the FBI altered the interview report to enhance Fiske's claim that Foster was depressed. Don't believe me? Look at this: http://www.swlink.net/~hoboh/foster...or_Depression/prescription_for_depression.htm
Fiske and the administration claimed that Foster's family and friends noted Foster's depression. Not true. During the first few days after his death, before the claims of depression were made by the government, when those people were interviewed, NONE of them mentioned any signs of depression, and they were all stunned by his suicide. The Park Police conducted a 70 minute interview of the family and friends who gathered at his house the night he was found dead. If Foster had been as severely depressed in the weeks before he died as the government claimed, those interviewed that night should have described symptoms of clinical depression. They did not. Here are some quotes from the Senate depositions and testimony about the interviews:
The Senate staff attorney asked the investigator this:
In short, Fiske again LIED.
Three secretaries in the White House Office of Legal Counsel were interviewed by the Park Police two days after the death (according to Park Police notes). Here are the notes for the three secretaries: "There was nothing unusual about his emotional state. In fact, over the last several weeks she did not notice any changes, either physically or emotionally. She noticed no weight loss." "Mr. Foster's demeanor seemed normal to her." "She stated that she did not note any unusual behavior by Mr. Foster on [the day he died]". That last was Foster's personal secretary. This just doesn't match suicide theory. Foster lied.
Lab work done as a part of the autopsy of Foster immediately after his death included specific tests for the presence of antidepressants. The tests all came up completely negative. Dr. Anh Hyunh, who did the blood toxicology, stated in the official report that no Trazodone (an antidepressant) or Valium-derivatives were found in Foster's blood. It was not until a re-test of the blood months later by the FBI Lab that the presence of both Trazodone and Valium was reported - just before Fiske issued his June 30, 1994 report claiming Foster was clinically depressed. Isn't it obvious they lied to help confirm Fiske's claim? And we now know, thanks to the testimony of Dr. Frederic Whitehurst who worked at FBI labs during this time, that the FBI Labs were routinely tampering with evidence. Whitehurst, who ended up suing the FBI as a whistleblower regarding tampering, received a substantial cash settlement from the FBI, suggesting his allegations had merit. Looks like Fiske and the FBI lied.
The first known official claim that Foster had been taking anti-depressant medication, came from Lisa Foster nine days after the death. She told the Park Police that Foster had taken Trazodone [Desyrel] the night before he died. When asked how she knew this, the notes say "LF [Lisa Foster] told VF [Vince Foster] to take one and she also saw him take it." But the night of the death, when asked by the Park Police if her husband had been taking any medication, specifically any anti-depressant medication, she said NO. One wonders given the history of the Clinton administration at witness intimidation, what sort of *encouragement* Lisa was subjected to in order to get her to change her story? Maybe the experience of Patrick Knowlton is a clue? Or Juanita Broaddrick? Or Paula Jones?
The change in Lisa's story occurred in a session with Park Police in her attorney's office, three days after the discovery of the torn note (a note whose *discovery* and characteristics are highly suspicious as will be discussed below) and two days after she and her attorney attended a meeting at the White House to discuss the then still-secret torn note. Also suspicious is what the deposition of the officer who conducted the *interview* reveals "You know, we didn't have to question her a whole lot." He says the widow gave more of a verbal statement than an interview. The officer thought "she had gone over it with her lawyer so many times she had it down pat. . . I don't think we ever asked her a direct question." And note that investigators did not interview any of Foster children because the attorney "would not make them accessible to us." Don't you agree that's a little suspicious?
And what about this attorney of Lisa's ... James Hamilton? Do you know that he made a point, during the Lisa Foster's FBI interview, to remind everyone that photos of the suicide note were not to be allowed out, even in response to a Freedom of Information Act Request. Now how could he make such a demand? Where did his authority really come from? Well let me give you a clue. Hamilton was general counsel of the Clinton transition team and the author of a memo to Clinton counseling stonewalling in the Whitewater case. And Hamilton is the lawyer that helped keep the Foster photos under lock and key recently ... the photos that might have told us whether Foster was murdered.
Another example of a sudden change in witness testimony from "no depression" to "depression" came from Beryl Anthony, who was married to Foster's sister, Sheila, the Assistant Attorney General in Clinton Administration. Beryl was a former Democrat Congressman from (you guessed) Arkansas and a former President of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. In an interview on July 22, when asked if Foster had been depressed during the two weeks prior to death, Beryl is quoted saying: "There is not a damn thing to it. That's a bunch of crap." But suddenly on July 27, the night the torn note was given to Park Police, his story changed. He told the Park Police (according to the interview report) "that he and his wife had noticed a gradual decline in Mr. Foster's general disposition to the point of depression." And he claimed that his wife had given Mr Foster a list of three counselors, psychiatrists or other doctors who do counseling. And guess who else was at that White House meeting to discuss the torn note that Lisa attended? Sheila Anthony. Are you getting the least bit suspicious yet?
If not, there are plenty of reasons to be suspicious:
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/foster.html
But let's continue with the depression claim:
Four days before Foster died, Sheila called a psychiatrist, who later told the FBI that she said Vince Foster was working on "Top Secret" issues at the White House and "that his depression was directly related to highly sensitive and confidential matters". Could this be evidence of premeditation? I think so, because (as I showed) NO ONE else at the time seems to have thought Foster depressed.
Christopher Ruddy wrote a book, "The Strange Death of Vince Foster". In it he describes the frustrations of Starr’s lead investigator, Miquel Rodriguez. Before resigning (saying his investigation was obstructed by the OIC itself), Ruddy says Rodriguez “entertained the possibility that the phone calls (to the psychiatrist) were made by someone other than Foster to create a record that would bolster a finding of suicide.” Writes Ruddy: “He and others in Starr’s office noted that the phone numbers jotted on the note (BAC - found in Foster's wallet at the scene of the crime) did not appear to match the way Foster wrote his numbers.” And note that Rodriquez says Mark Tuohey, head of the OIC in Washington, warned him he was not to challenge the findings of the Fiske Report. In other words, he was told not to challenge the suicide verdict. Suspicious to say the least.
And what about that torn suicide note. You remember the story? Bernard Nussbaum opened and upended Foster's briefcase in front of Park Police, showing it to be empty. Three days later, Stephen Neuwirth, Associate Counsel to the President, announced that a suicide note was discovered in that briefcase. I'm sure you're thinking "that's proof" it was suicide. But is it?
The government refused to release photocopies of the reconstructed note and fought efforts by The Wall Street Journal to obtain a copy under the Freedom of Information Act. Eventually a copy was leaked to the WSJ, however. Three noted and independent handwriting experts then looked at the published note. All were board certified and all three declared the note an obvious forgery.
And here's another twist. Reed Irvine (of AIM) met with Sergeant Larry Lockhart, the U.S. Capitol Police handwriting expert who the government said concluded that the note was written by Foster. He showed Lockhart a sheet of paper with 12 words that were found in both the Foster letter that had been used to authenticate the note and the note itself. They had been copied and enlarged. Lockhart was told that these words came from two documents, neither of which was identified. He was asked if, in his professional opinion, all 12 words had been written by the same person. Lockhart conclude "very possibly" and "probably" they were NOT. He pointed out indications of conscious efforts to imitate the handwriting. At that point he didn't know that he was reversing the opinion he gave the Park Police. When he was told that, he acknowledged that he had not used any enlargements for his 1993 analysis.
Furthermore, the note was undated and unsigned. It said nothing whatever about suicide or farewells to family and friends. Curiously, the beginning and the end of the note are written in first person but the middle part is written in third person (and, curiously, exonerates the Clintons of all sorts of allegations). Finally, note that FBI failed to find Foster's fingerprints on the note. That in itself is very curious. Oh yes, the note was torn into pieces ... which the three experts said is a red flag.
And just incase you supported Hillary in the primaries ... there is this: the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee concluded that Hillary was one of the first persons to see the alleged suicide note and that it was her instructions that Bill Clinton NOT be informed of its existence and that the note NOT be turned over to law enforcement. And it wasn't, until about 28 hours later (4 hours after Bill learned about the note anyway). These facts are documented in the OIC report. Now a number of Clinton staffers swore under oath that the first lady had no role whatsoever in the handling of Foster's note. Yet a memo was discovered, written by White House lawyer Miriam Nemetz, who quotes then-White House chief of staff Mack McLarty saying Mrs. Clinton "was very upset and believed the matter required further thought and the president should not yet be told". I think those staffers should have been charged with perjury, don't you?
Ask yourself why Hillary's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, was observed by the secret service removing boxes of material from Foster's office immediately after the death, before park police arrived to seal it. Ask yourself why Craig Livingstone (who curiously Hillary denied even knowing in Filegate even though there are many pictures of her and him together and testimony by Livingstone that she hired him) was seen by another Secret Serviceman removing items from Foster's office after it was sealed. Ask yourself why witnesses saw Bernard Nussbaum in Foster's office after his death. Ask yourself why three witnesses say Patsy Thomason, director of the White House's Office of Administration, was looking for the combination to Vincent Foster's safe. Two envelopes reported to be in the safe by Foster's secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, disappeared. When asked the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty, White House Chief of Staff, told reporters Foster's office did not even have a safe. That claim is proven false in the final IOC report.
Do you know that Maggie Williams later admitted to Whitewater investigators that the first lady ordered her to take sensitive documents from his Vince Fosters office two days after his death and store them in her bedroom closet for safekeeping. And there are witnesses who saw boxes marked "Foster" in the Clinton WhiteHouse residence later on. You must have heard that a document connected to Whitewater, with Hillary's fingerprints on it, magically appeared in the residence a few days after the statute of limitation on the Whitewater matter expired? Well guess what? We know that documents connected to Whitewater were in Foster's office the day he died and it looks like they were removed to Hillary's residence. Only SOME were later turned in.
Do you start to get the picture? Do you understand why there are questions?
Do you know who Patrick Knowlton is? If not, maybe you should find out because you see, the three judges who supervised Ken Starr, forced Starr to include a twenty page addendum to his report on Foster that was largely made up of Patrick Knowlton's testimony on the harassment he endured for suggesting there was evidence the investigators overlooked. This addendum is the first time in US history that an independent counsel had allegations on criminal activity by his own staff attached to his report. You want to learn more, you can start here:
http://www.fbicover-up.com/
And then read this from AIM:
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/aim-report-the-independent-counsels-final-report/
and this:
http://www.aim.org/publications/special_reports/2003/jul15.html
Keep in mind that the evidence presented to the court by Knowlton stands uncontradicted. The court rulings against Knowlton in the matter provided NO analysis whatsoever of the evidence.
It is certainly damning that Fiske and Starr both failed to tell the three judge panel and the public about an FBI memo to the Director of the FBI written two days after the death stating that the shot was fired into Foster's mouth without leaving an exit wound, which directly contradicts Starr, Fiske and the official autopsy report (which all concluded there was an exit wound in the back of the head). Is it any wonder that the government claims the official 35 mm photos of Foster at the scene of the crime were "underexposed" and deemed useless? Only one polaroid photo of Fosters head (of his neck actually) survived from the scene of the supposed suicide during the *investigation*. All the others (taken by several different people) simply disappeared.
And when Miquel Rodriguez (mentioned earlier) got hold of the original photograph, he had the Smithsonian institution blow it up. The blowups show a dime-sized wound on the right side of Foster’s neck about half way between the chin and the ear. A wound never mentioned by Fiske or Starr or in the official autopsy report.
Then there is the matter of the x-rays. You see, a Supplemental Criminal Incident Record of the U.S. Park Police states "Dr. Beyer stated that X-rays indicated there was no evidence of bullet fragments in the head." Dr. Beyer was the Deputy Virginia Medical Examiner. The X-ray box on the autopsy report was checked "yes." But, curiously, in testimony before the Senate Banking Committee, Dr. Beyer said that he had been planning to take X-rays but never did. Claimed the equipment was broken and had been for weeks. Asked whether Robert Fiske had ever talked to him he said "no". Asked whether Fiske had sent investigators to the hospital, or to the company that services the X-ray machine", he said "Not that I am aware of."
The original report by Dr. Donald Haut, the only doctor to visit the crime scene, lists the cause of death as a "self-inflicted gunshot wound mouth to neck." Yet according to the official report, Foster blew a 1 by 1 ¼ inch hole in the upper part of his skull. "There is no other trauma identified that would suggest a circumstance other than suicide," concluded Fiske’s panel of pathologists. Dr. Haut’s report was not included in the documents released by the government. It was discovered in June 1997 at the National Archives by Patrick Knowlton.
Four of the rescue workers testified in secret before the Whitewater grand jury that they saw trauma to the side of Foster’s head or neck. This information was submitted to Kenneth Starr in a memorandum from Miquel Rodriguez summing up the proceedings of the Whitewater grand jury. Keep that in mind as your read in the above links what Rodriguez says about this case being a cover up.
Now you'd think if there was a 1 by 1 ¼ inch hole in the back of Fosters head there would have been brain matter and blood all over the scene. But Corey Ashford, the Emergency Medical Services technician, who had to pick up and move the body didn't observe any. He said he didn't get a drop of blood on his white uniform, or on his gloves. He said there was no blood on the ground underneath the body. Roger Harrison, who helped Cory, didn’t see any blood either. No blood on the ground. No blood on the body. No blood on anybody who had touched it. Corey Ashford didn't see an exit wound. Or Richard Arthur. Or Sgt Gonzalez. In fact, NONE of the paramedics who where there report seeing the 1 by 1 ¼ inch hole claimed by Fiske and Starr to be in the back of Foster’s skull. Nor did they find any bone fragments on the ground near the body.
At the FairFax County Morgue, the doctor on duty was Julian Orenstein. In his FBI statement it says he lifted the body in order "to locate and observe the exit wound on the decedent's head." Notice that it doesn't actually say he saw the exit wound ... but you might think he did reading that. But he didn't. Contacted later, he admitted "I never saw one directly." And a copy of the handwritten notes of the FBI interviews, which Christopher Ruddy obtained via a FOIA lawsuit against the Office of the Independent Counsel does not mention Orenstein trying to locate an exit wound. Apparently, that was added to his statement after the fact.
And what about the official autopsy photos? Given all of the above, and all the rest that Knowlton documents at his website, you'd think the government would want them released to stop all these allegations of foul play that are circulating. Clear autopsy photos showing only a wound where the official report claims is a wound would likely do that. But in a recent FOIA ruling, the court has refused to release them to the public. They say the privacy rights of the Foster family outweigh the public's interest in seeing them. Do you know that was the first time that the Supreme Court has ruled that a public figure's privacy rights under the FOIA can be extended after his death to members of his family? Do you know that the US government joined with the Foster family to prevent the release? It seems, they'd rather have these allegations floating about, discrediting the whole government, then clear the matter up by simply releasing four photos? Go figure.
Oh there are plenty of reasons to suspect foul play in this case and Hillary's involvement, Loss Leader. It's not just a republican smear. I just listed but a few of them above. Just read the Knowlton website. There are literally hundreds of inconsistencies and incriminating facts that the so-called *debunkers* don't want to touch, Joe Conason and Gene Lyons, included.
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