Clark County GOP Elects Convicted Sexual Predator

[Roboramma]

My point was he was arrested on suspicion of that and ended up being convicted of this.

Right, that's what I said.

I also pointed out that it's not entirely clear that the thing he was arrested for and the thing he was convicted of are different things. That writer omitted the "with sexual motivation" from the thing he was convicted of isn't clear evidence to me that he wasn't convicted of "residential burglary with sexual motivation", though it's also not clear that he was.

 

[cullennz]

Right, that's what I said.

I also pointed out that it's not entirely clear that the thing he was arrested for and the thing he was convicted of are different things. That writer omitted the "with sexual motivation" from the thing he was convicted of isn't clear evidence to me that he wasn't convicted of "residential burglary with sexual motivation", though it's also not clear that he was.

Think I get what you mean.

The convictions wording is vague and may cover something which makes him qualify as a sexual predator?

Edit: And/or it isn't clear he wasn't convicted of other things

 

[Roboramma]

The convictions wording is vague and may cover something which makes him qualify as a sexual predator?

Yes.

He was arrested for residential burglary with sexual motivation.

He was convicted of residential burglary.

Was the residential burglary he was convicted of the same sort that he was arrested for (that is, with sexual motivation) or not? The sentence is vague.

 

[cullennz]

Yes.

He was arrested for residential burglary with sexual motivation.

He was convicted of residential burglary.

Was the residential burglary he was convicted of the same sort that he was arrested for (that is, with sexual motivation) or not? The sentence is vague.

Fair call

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Another source says he later married his victim once she turned 18. A 43 year old man groomed a teenager and married her the second it became legal. Gross.

 

[Belz...]

It does seem odd how many of the rabidly anti-LGBTQ Republicans turn out to be closet cases, or get caught with minors in compromising situations. And, of course, this is also the party of "Better a paedophile than a liberal".

I know they said better a Russian than a Democrat... but did someone actually say this?

 

[cullennz]

Another source says he later married his victim once she turned 18. A 43 year old man groomed a teenager and married her the second it became legal. Gross.

Gross indeed

Yet Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis are stilled loved so much.

 

[luchog]

I know they said better a Russian than a Democrat... but did someone actually say this?

Several people, in fact. Mostly minor conservative-sphere talking heads on twitter. Unfortunately they seem to have had the sense to take down those tweets, so I can't provide links to direct evidence.

 

[Belz...]

Several people, in fact. Mostly minor conservative-sphere talking heads on twitter. Unfortunately they seem to have had the sense to take down those tweets, so I can't provide links to direct evidence.

I'll take you at your word... but that's a fantastically stupid thing to say. I don't think the Republican base would support that, hence taking down the tweets.

 

[crescent]

delete, misunderstood the comment I was replying to.

 

[luchog]

Yes.

He was arrested for residential burglary with sexual motivation.

He was convicted of residential burglary.

Was the residential burglary he was convicted of the same sort that he was arrested for (that is, with sexual motivation) or not? The sentence is vague.

Vague, but since there's nothing in the article about an actual theft, nothing "burgled", I think as a tentative conclusion it's relatively safe to say that it was the same charge.

 

[luchog]

I'll take you at your word... but that's a fantastically stupid thing to say. I don't think the Republican base would support that, hence taking down the tweets.

The current GOP does appear to be quite fond of the taste of their own feet; as well as having quite the taste for historical revisionism on many levels.

 

[Thermal]

I'll take you at your word... but that's a fantastically stupid thing to say. I don't think the Republican base would support that, hence taking down the tweets.

IIRC, the tweets said, paraphrased ' this individual, even though he is a pedo is better than any Democrat'

 

[Arcade22]

Another source says he later married his victim once she turned 18. A 43 year old man groomed a teenager and married her the second it became legal. Gross.

Yeah, what a sick ****. I try not to judge people for who they are sexually attracted to, but there's a limit to everything. Like how ****** up in the head do you have to be not to recoil in disgust on the thought of being together with a middle aged man? No doubt she has daddy issues, that's the only explanation for her behaviour.

 

[Belz...]

IIRC, the tweets said, paraphrased ' this individual, even though he is a pedo is better than any Democrat'

That's only marginally better.

 

[Belz...]

Yeah, what a sick ****. I try not to judge people for who they are sexually attracted to, but there's a limit to everything. Like how ****** up in the head do you have to be not to recoil in disgust on the thought of being together with a middle aged man? No doubt she has daddy issues, that's the only explanation for her behaviour.

Hey, I'm 40-something. I'm not disgusting, I think!

I can't decide whether these adults are just excited at the idea of a barely-legal teen having sex with them, or if they're just using their vulnerability for their own purposes.

Personally I find that, with age, I'm actually progressively more attracted to older women.

 

[Checkmite]

As much as the bloke is scum and the vote was incredibly bad, reading the article the bloke ain't a "convicted sexual predator"

Fine, he's "a sexual predator and a convicted burglar". Better?

 

[luchog]

Hey, I'm 40-something. I'm not disgusting, I think!

Hrm...

I can't decide whether these adults are just excited at the idea of a barely-legal teen having sex with them, or if they're just using their vulnerability for their own purposes.

I think there is something of a clash between evolutionary drive vs. intellectual judgement cultural stricture. Evolutionarily, we're programmed to be attracted to youth and health, prime breeding age and condition. Mid-late teens definitely fall within that window.

However, intellectually and culturally, we're aware that passing on genes is not the end-all-be-all of our lives. We develop a sense of restraint to allow us to develop as people, and grow a bit beyond our base animal instincts. This is what enables us to actually develop complex, intellectually and emotionally fulfilling personalities and social structures.

Within that you have the people who are not interested in personal restraint, but prefer to indulge their baser instincts, and end up intellectually and emotionally underdeveloped as a result. Since we live in a culture that generally frowns upon indulging those urges outside of specific contexts as a general rule, those sorts of people develop an idiosyncratic set of rationalizations which to them justify the social transgressions and lack of judgement.

 

[Venom]

Yeah, what a sick ****. I try not to judge people for who they are sexually attracted to, but there's a limit to everything. Like how ****** up in the head do you have to be not to recoil in disgust on the thought of being together with a middle aged man? No doubt she has daddy issues, that's the only explanation for her behaviour.

I wouldn't say that. I find this attitude silly.

A 40 year old isn't 60 or anything. Sexual attraction strongly based on appearance of course. But I think we tend to conflate ages with looks and there are plenty of 30-something looking 40 year olds with good genetics looking youthful and women tend to be attracted to men older than themselves. So it isn't out of the question at all. And same with young men who have fetishes about older women, although interestingly that isn't thought of nearly as taboo, maybe cause of the power dynamics, real or perceived.

My cousin's daughter (first cousin once removed I guess it's called) married a 36 or so year old guy, a lead singer in a small time rock band, who looked young and fresh as ever and she was 17. They have two kids now and take endless selfies together.

 

[Arcade22]

Fine, he's "a sexual predator and a convicted burglar". Better?

For a "sexual predator" his actions come off as pretty tame. Hugs and kisses? Even the President of the United States boast about doing more than that for crying out loud. Definitively not presidential material that's for sure.