CIT.....Time to call it a day

[bobloblaw]

How is Sucherman a flyover witness when he claims to have witnessed an AA 757 impact with the Pentagon.

Roberts can't be a flyover witness, he was inside at the point of impact. He claims he saw something flying away on a completely different trajectory, but that doesn't make him a flyover witness, especially as noone corroborates his claim.

So you've given me 0 flyover witnesses, Dom.

Where are the flyover witnesses, Dom?

 

[bobloblaw]

Give one one single witness that says "Oh yes, I watched a plane fly towards the Pentagon, aiming at the west wall, and then it pulled up at the last moment and flew through the fireball and away from the scene."

Where are those flyover witnesses, Dom?

 

[funk de fino]

If you apply your critical thinking cap you'll realize I already gave you 2 of them.......

You ought not to say this to people after your, quite frankly, shocking display in this thread.

A CIT reject, something I never thought I would ever see. How low can one go?

I bet when you are brushing your teeth in the morning and you look in the mirror you think there are people behind it watching you?

It is very sad to see someone as delusional as you are, I would hope that someone in your family might get you help but they have maybe given up already.

 

[Pinch]

Sucherman watched the flyover.

So Sucherman is NOW a "flyover witness". It is simply amazing how you guys take statements and comments from anyone and twist them like a gerrymandered pretzel into what you want to hear. Morin is the same thing - his comment of the aircraft flying "parallel" to the outer edge of the FOB is now twisted into a "FOB flyover" top north of the Citgo.

How many others out there have you taken their statements and twisted it so that it is an completely un-recognizeable shadow of its former content?

Those are two classic reasons why you and your CIT/P4T/LC pals remain nothing more than comic relief in this whole thing.

 

[bobloblaw]

You know, even during my short involvement with this ridiculous fantasy tale, almost every time I've heard a CIT supporter say "Oh, but witness X said this!" I'll go and check only to find that it's not actually a verbatim quote but it's actually Craig Ranke or Aldo Marquis giving their interpretations of that person's statements.

It's not even worth the time fact checking these guys anymore.

And how can you debate with liars who just make up **** on the spot?

 

[Reheat]

You know, even during my short involvement with this ridiculous fantasy tale, almost every time I've heard a CIT supporter say "Oh, but witness X said this!" I'll go and check only to find that it's not actually a verbatim quote but it's actually Craig Ranke or Aldo Marquis giving their interpretations of that person's statements.

It's not even worth the time fact checking these guys anymore.

And how can you debate with liars who just make up **** on the spot?

Heheheh! Welcome to the world of CIT! Well, most CTists in fact. Yes, this is the case with virtually every single witness. As Pinch said it is twisted, more twisted than a coiled copperhead snake only with more slime.

I will never understand how normal thinking people can be drawn in and caught up with this made up crap and not see it for what it is. It's more than pathetic and is truly comedy gold, over and over again.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Because O'Brien wasn't near the Pentagon when Sucherman's plane "peeled away". Pure and simple.

From Sucherman's eweek.com interview:

Off to the west, Sucherman saw another plane climb steeply and make a sharp turn. "I thought, Is this thing coming around to make a second attack? If there is another explosion, were [sic] toast." [bolding mine]

Sucherman saw the same plane Roosevelt saw flying over the parking lot past the impact at about 100' above the poles.

Off to the west.

Roosevelt has no doubt in his mind he saw a silver commercial airliner.

So of course the fact that he has "no doubt in his mind" absolutely precludes his having conflated different memories of an incredibly stressful event several years after the fact.

Honestly, I am fearful for his life and since the revelations of his testimony I expect he will most likely become "suicidal or suffer a horrible accident" within the immediate future......

 

[~enigma~]

Oh, you lie about planted poles.

Why would anyone bring Polish people into this? First the jooos and now the poles....who is next for the racist bowel movement?

 

[Cobalt]

Why would anyone bring Polish people into this? First the jooos and now the poles....who is next for the racist bowel movement?

The Swiss, of course. All that neutrality is a perfect cover.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Only 1 pole needed to be staged in realtime Bob. Most likely the teams involved in staging it were in the white vans and the pole was located in the immediate vacinity.

TC... for once in your, errr 'career' try not grasping at straws... Not only are you telling people to believe that the light poles were planted, but now you're trying to convince people that one of them had to be 'planted in real time'

How do you propose they went about this?

 

[~enigma~]

TC... for once in your, errr 'career' try not grasping at straws... Not only are you telling people to believe that the light poles were planted, but now you're trying to convince people that one of them had to be 'planted in real time'

How do you propose they went about this?
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/022.jpg/022-full.jpg

He doesn't believe LLoyd was an accomplice yet he finds a reason to mention his wife works for the FBI. What a dishonest piece of sub-human trash...

 

[The Big Dog]

Gee, is Dom still carrying the CIT's water over here? Cripes, Dom, you'd think that after getting kicked out of the tree fort, you'd grow a pair... anyway, tell your owners, Dom, that I'm waiting for the CIT to answer the following questions:

1. What did Morin say when you told him the plane did not hit the pentagon?
2. Morin already said the speed of the plane, why the fake new revelation?
3. Why do you throw out his testimony the the plane was parallel to the annex?
4. When you gonna publish your notes?
5. Did Levi contact you and tell you to delete his info from your site?
6. Why did you misrepresent the fact that your ANC witness said the plane was 800 feet away?
7. Why did you intentionally delete the ANC band member's reference to the missing man formation flyover?

Now run back over and fetch me some answers!

 

[Grizzly Bear]

He doesn't believe LLoyd was an accomplice yet he finds a reason to mention his wife works for the FBI. What a dishonest piece of sub-human trash...

I'm still trying to figure out how these people supposedly knew exactly where to place the light poles, and how much damage needed to be 'simulated' on the light poles to make it look like a passenger air liner struck them on the way to the Pentagon... They must be world renowned for their abilities .....

Somehow the 'planting' idea doesn't work.....

 

[Disbelief]

I'm still trying to figure out how these people supposedly knew exactly where to place the light poles, and how much damage needed to be 'simulated' on the light poles to make it look like a passenger air liner struck them on the way to the Pentagon... They must be world renowned for their abilities .....

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Somehow the 'planting' idea doesn't work.....

I am assuming that the planted light poles were "stand ins" for light poles that were there before the attack.

What happened to the real ones that were there? Were they removed the night before? No one noticed that they suddenly weren't there?

 

[bje]

You can let me know when Mr. Boger & Mr. Stephens don't recant their placement of the plane.

Your witnesses on the far side of the Pentagon who saw AA77 fly over and beyond the Pentagon are exactly whom, TC? Speak up, no one can hear you.

Just like none of the other eyewitnesses to the plane will recant their placement and say it was somewhere else for people like you......

And after two years of being asked just what wreckage from inside the Pentagon the hundreds of witnesses saw, recovered, and/or sorted through, you still can't answer the question and produce a single statement.

Now, TC, tell us just exactly why you are denying evidence, and what do you possibly hope to accomplish?

 

[~enigma~]

Somehow the 'planting' idea doesn't work.....

Can't work...first you have to till the highway....then you plant the poles....finally you harvest them.....CIT is absolutely nuts and their lapdog just accused Lloyd's wife of being in on their wet dream. Personally, i wouldn't shed a tear if all of CIT including their lapdog TC, JFK and SPreston were to just go somewhere far away (with no internet access).

 

[~enigma~]

Can't work...first you have to till the highway....then you plant the poles....finally you harvest them.....CIT is absolutely nuts and their lapdog just accused Lloyd's wife of being in on their wet dream. Personally, i wouldn't shed a tear if all of CIT including their lapdog TC, JFK and SPreston were to just go somewhere far away (with no internet access).

ETA - Bob...you think you might want to call Lloyd's wife and let her know that TC accused her of being in on his fantasy which means she is guilty of murder as well.

ETA (for real) - I hit edit on my last post....what gives.

[ct mode]Jref is censoring my posts[/ct mode]

 

[Bobert]

Why would anyone bring Polish people into this? First the jooos and now the poles....who is next for the racist bowel movement?

Hmmmm even a Polish person likes a good pole planting now and again.

 

[~enigma~]

 

[GlennB]

I'm still trying to figure out how these people supposedly knew exactly where to place the light poles, and how much damage needed to be 'simulated' on the light poles to make it look like a passenger air liner struck them on the way to the Pentagon... They must be world renowned for their abilities .....

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Somehow the 'planting' idea doesn't work.....

Whatever else you might think about him, Russ Pickering produced the most monumental debunk of the "faked Pentagon fligh path" CT, over at the previous incarnation of LCF.

Well worth a read. It's here . It goes on a good long way and you might need to refresh the images, but the analysis is excellent.
Even this renowned truther can barely contain his rage at the total stoopidity of the very idea that AA77 didn't hit The Pentagon.