CIT Fraud Revealed

[stewieg]

CIT and fraud. Is anyone really suprised here. Kind of like saying the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

 

[jhunter1163]

Originally Posted by me

CL:

I'm not convinced about a prank, frankly. Maybe the ANC guys cooked something up, but they didn't know the Citgo guys, Morin, Paik, Boger, or any of the others. In my opinion, for whatever that's worth, a prank is unlikely.

I stand by this. It's not likely that there was any collusion by the ANC guys; most likely they were mistaken about where the plane was in relation to the Annex, an entirely understandable error when you consider they could only have seen it for a second or two at most and were being asked several years after the fact.

 

[beachnut]

Point out my ´lies´ Beach. I´ve pointed your and Farmers.

I have repeatedly posted the NOC math supplied by Balsamo and AWSmith admitted that nonbody had done a mathematical rebuttal of this precise paper on the NORTHSIDE possible flightpaths.

No, you only pointed out you are gullible and unable to understand 911.
You have proved you ignore evidence.

You support liars with empty rhetoric.
You have not posted the math for the single one and only NoC flight path because the aerodynamic are impossible. You can't resolve the 80 g flight path the CIT idiots posted out of complete ignorance of aerodynamic with the help of, albeit the 2,223 g help, of Balsamo the not an airline pilot or qualified to fly passengers. You hooked up with some idiots and now are posting more junk which has been debunked for 8 years.

Possible flight paths? LOL, there is only one flight path and your CIT buddies have to ignore it to sell their lies on DVD.

Flight paths? You don't have a real flight path yet? Can't do the math?

 

[beachnut]

That post speaks for itself beachnut. LMAO!
Apart from the fact that it is pure nonsense and manipulation of still images to fit that warped imagnation of yours, how do you explain the PATHS they ALL drew and signed? Slip of the pen or..?

Boger did see 77 impact the Pentagon, he was right next to the impact; you support liars who have to all everyone else liars like you do. Good job you are a CIT expert.
You fall for CIT lies; Witnesses can't draw a flight path of an aircraft that is tangential to them. Do you understand reality? No you don't you support the idiotic delusions of CIT.

All the witnesses point to the south; can you explain that? NO

All you can do that is real is LYAO, you best effort

Does CIT email mudlark this tripe? Holy CIT SPAM. How many people lack the knowledge and the skills to see CIT are full of poppycock?

mudlark sounds like a Balsamo name. CIT was exposed, now what do you do? Disneyland?

 

[mudlark]

No! I like the complete story. Before you jump saying the the OS is not complete, it's far more complete then anything CIT has come up with.

Yes, the OS has hammered those square pegs into the round holes real good.
Guess some people are easily satisfied.

 

[mudlark]

Originally Posted by me



I stand by this. It's not likely that there was any collusion by the ANC guys; most likely they were mistaken about where the plane was in relation to the Annex, an entirely understandable error when you consider they could only have seen it for a second or two at most and were being asked several years after the fact.

Sorry ´cooked something up´ has a different meaning to what you just posted.

Sure about the ´several years after the fact´ comment? There were three CMH interviews carried out with these guys. Ask Farmer, he claims to have got them made public but funnily enough he made just the same comment as you.

 

[mudlark]

CIT and fraud. Is anyone really suprised here. Kind of like saying the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

You might want to read my posts on the ´fraud´ passing as debate here.

 

[The Big Dog]

Yawn, it has been a long night at the tree house, and the latest CIT slurper comes in with a complete non-rebuttal to the OP.

Craig, Fatty, we get it, you can't respond to the OP, or supply the math, or release the raw video.

So we get another complete derail.

Bull **** about people other than Paik, reported.

Come on Mud, was Paik inside the building or not?

 

[mudlark]

No, you only pointed out you are gullible and unable to understand 911.
You have proved you ignore evidence.

You support liars with empty rhetoric.
You have not posted the math for the single one and only NoC flight path because the aerodynamic are impossible. You can't resolve the 80 g flight path the CIT idiots posted out of complete ignorance of aerodynamic with the help of, albeit the 2,223 g help, of Balsamo the not an airline pilot or qualified to fly passengers. You hooked up with some idiots and now are posting more junk which has been debunked for 8 years.

Possible flight paths? LOL, there is only one flight path and your CIT buddies have to ignore it to sell their lies on DVD.

Flight paths? You don't have a real flight path yet? Can't do the math?

You want ONE NOC flightpath from a group of eyewitnesses?
Balsamo has done the math using numerous parameters including the official 540mph speed.
I´ve linked to it 10 times.
Your own ´expert´ already admitted that there had been no math done in response to debunk it.
You´re making me post like you Beachnut. A broken record.

 

[Edx]

As much as I know CIT and frauds and liars... I do hope the OPer isn't exaggerating,

 

[The Big Dog]

That post speaks for itself beachnut. LMAO!
Apart from the fact that it is pure nonsense and manipulation of still images to fit that warped imagnation of yours, how do you explain the PATHS they ALL drew and signed? Slip of the pen or..?

The same way as always, mud, their paths are impossible.

How are the tree house boys doing on their math?

 

[The Big Dog]

You want ONE NOC flightpath from a group of eyewitnesses?
Balsamo has done the math using numerous parameters including the official 540mph speed.
I´ve linked to it 10 times.
Your own ´expert´ already admitted that there had been no math done in response to debunk it.
You´re making me post like you Beachnut. A broken record.

Mud, ya gotta do the whole CIT path, boyo, you know that by now.

But this is about Paik, please keep on subject.

kthxbye

 

[mudlark]

Yawn, it has been a long night at the tree house, and the latest CIT slurper comes in with a complete non-rebuttal to the OP.

Craig, Fatty, we get it, you can't respond to the OP, or supply the math, or release the raw video.

So we get another complete derail.

Bull **** about people other than Paik, reported.

Come on Mud, was Paik inside the building or not?

Talking of broken records..
Farmer has made the assertion that Paik was inside the shop. Tell HIM to prove it. It´s HIS ´thread´
While you´re at it, ask him why he was arguing the other night that Paik was ´in the shadow of the plane´ AND facing towards the outside of it.

Derail? Just making sure people see the facts (again).

 

[beachnut]

You want ONE NOC flightpath from a group of eyewitnesses?
Balsamo has done the math using numerous parameters including the official 540mph speed.
I´ve linked to it 10 times.
Your own ´expert´ already admitted that there had been no math done in response to debunk it.
You´re making me post like you Beachnut. A broken record.

Post a the real flight path, you have all those witnesses did not they have the same path or not?

All Balsamo's paths are impossible; you should have used math.

 

[mudlark]

Mud, ya gotta do the whole CIT path, boyo, you know that by now.

But this is about Paik, please keep on subject.

kthxbye

I´ve been following your posts champ on other threads. SAME words over and over.
No links, no math, nothing.
The math HAS been provided.
Bye bye. You´re on ignore bore.

 

[beachnut]

I´ve been following your posts champ on other threads. SAME words over and over.
No links, no math, nothing.
The math HAS been provided.
Bye bye. You´re on ignore bore.

You have the flight path or not? You have the real flight path?

I have the exact flight which knocked down lampposts and you have flight paths of 80 Gs. You have delusion, I have evidence.

Why not stop SPAMing your lies and refute Paik who clearly points south as Craig makes up moronic lies. Use evidence. Oops, you only have delusions. Cool bring your real evidence when you guys settle on one flight path which does not exceed the bank angles seen by your own witnesses who point the south flight path on your own video.

You don't watch your own videos, or you fail to comprehend you own videos. So sad.

The one flight path you will use? Any day; soon? When? 2,223 gs, Balsamo is the expert at math. Please don't post his failed math, use your own math and show us the flight path you have as the real NoC; you can't have each flight path from your witnesses who clearly pointed to the flight path that knocked down the lampposts.
Paik is the subject, have you debunked him yet?

 

[The Big Dog]

Talking of broken records..
Farmer has made the assertion that Paik was inside the shop. Tell HIM to prove it. It´s HIS ´thread´
While you´re at it, ask him why he was arguing the other night that Paik was ´in the shadow of the plane´ AND facing towards the outside of it.

Derail? Just making sure people see the facts (again).

OK! Will do!

Ask Shaky and Fatty when they will release their unedited video of their interview with Paik. I am sure they will do that, right champ? I mean, you are demanding the same from the OP, it is CIT's claim, I am sure they will torrent their raw video, right?

Hell, fan boy, you gotta be demanding that right, otherwise you just seem like a hypocrite, and you aint a:

God Damn Hypocrite

right?

 

[The Big Dog]

I´ve been following your posts champ on other threads. SAME words over and over.
No links, no math, nothing.
The math HAS been provided.
Bye bye. You´re on ignore bore.

WIN

All you gotta do is ask these guys for objective facts and evidence, and man, the game is freaking OVER!

 

[beachnut]

... Paik, Ed was INSIDE the shop when the plane flew by.
Shinki Interview

... follow-up with Ed Paik on location shows that indeed Ed was INSIDE the shop when he saw the plane. He recreates his actual POV and direction of sighting in this image.

... CIT has been very deceptive and less than honest ...

Craig, it is time to release ALL of the recorded interview footage. ...

And during the video CIT releases they must be total idiots as Paik keeps telling his story showing where 77 is with CIT filming which confirms this photo of Paik point to 77 flying by.

Watching the CIT video shows Paik debunking the narration as the narration goes off on a delusional flight path of woo only a few idiots would believe, or some must miss the evidence due to lack of comprehension.

Paik proves CIT is making up their own flight paths, and if you do the physics/math on the CIT flight paths they are all impossible.

Only those who can't do math fall for Balsamo's false presentation on the NoC flight paths. If you can do math/physics you can debunk Balsamo, if you can't, you post his lies as your evidence. Got math? Got physics? Prove it

 

[Edx]

Quoted for Mudlark

OK! Will do!

Ask Shaky and Fatty when they will release their unedited video of their interview with Paik. I am sure they will do that, right champ? I mean, you are demanding the same from the OP, it is CIT's claim, I am sure they will torrent their raw video, right?

Hell, fan boy, you gotta be demanding that right, otherwise you just seem like a hypocrite, and you aint a:

God Damn Hypocrite

right?