The mobile weapons labs did not exist in 2003.
They were never found.
Germany disputed their existence in 2003 and they were right.
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They were never found.
Germany disputed their existence in 2003 and they were right.
Bush used a false claim of Nigerian uranium in Iraq.Come on Ion...answer the damn questions.
You mean you don't know that Cheney exposed Plame as a CIA agent?
No, but I'm aware that Richard Armitage outed Plame.
former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, Novak's "primary source" for the disclosure of the identity of Wilson's wife as a CIA operative, publicly identified himself after seeking permission to do so from Special Counsel Fitzgerald, to whom he had identified himself as the likely person at the start of the investigation.
And Bush using the claim of Nigerian uranium in Iraq, which he knew to be false?
And Bush knew this how?
The claim came from the British.
The mobile weapons labs did not exist in 2003.
They were never found.
Germany disputed their existence in 2003 and they were right.
So Ion is saying CNN is lying.
Read the article again Ion...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/05/13/sprj.irq.mobile.lab/index.html
MOSUL, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. forces in northern Iraq have found a second suspected mobile chemical weapons laboratory, an American military official told CNN Tuesday.
There is "pretty conclusive evidence" that this is a mobile chemical weapons lab, the official said.
So who is lying Ion, you or CNN?
The mobile weapons labs did not exist in 2003.
They were never found.
Germany disputed their existence in 2003 and they were right.
Germany handed US the intelligence that the mobile weapon labs existed. How is that 'disputing' their existence?
I don't trust CNN, Fox.So Ion is saying CNN is lying.
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I trust Plan of Attack by Bob Woodward.
Germany's Schroeder didn't believe Bush's claims and war.
If you go by Richard Armitage, then that's enough too for Bush to know the claim of Nigerian uranium in Iraq was false.
Yet, the charlatan Bush used the false claim.
Problem with your English?
Woodward said this about Armitage...
"a government official with no axe to grind"
Do you trust Woodward, or is he lying too?
I don't trust CNN, Fox.
I trust Plan of Attack by Bob Woodward.
Germany's Schroeder didn't believe Bush's claims and war.
So you trust Woodward, eh?
The president had hoped Saddam could be removed in some way short of war. But early in 2002, Woodward reports, the CIA concluded they could not overthrow Saddam. That word came from the CIA's head of Iraq operations, a man known simply as “Saul.”
"Saul gets together a briefing and who does he give it to first? Dick Cheney. He said, ‘I can count the number of sources, human sources, spies we have in Iraq on one hand,’” says Woodward. “I asked the president, ‘What was your reaction that the CIA couldn't overthrow Saddam? And the president said one word. 'Darn.'"
The vice president led the way on declaring that Saddam Hussein definitely had weapons of mass destruction. Before that, the president had said only that Saddam “desires them.”
But ten days later, the vice president said Saddam already had weapons of mass destruction. And 12 days after that, the president too had apparently been persuaded: “A lot of people understand he holds weapons of mass destruction.” Three months later, on Dec. 21, 2002, Woodward says CIA Director George Tenet brought his deputy, John McLaughlin, to the oval office to show the president and the vice president their best evidence that Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction.
”McLaughlin has access to all the satellite photos, and he goes in and he has flip charts in the oval office. The president listens to all of this and McLaughlin's done. And, and the president kind of, as he's inclined to do, says ‘Nice try, but that isn't gonna sell Joe Public. That isn't gonna convince Joe Public,’” says Woodward.
In his book, Woodward writes: "The presentation was a flop. The photos were not gripping. The intercepts were less than compelling. And then George Bush turns to George Tenet and says, 'This is the best we've got?'"
Says Woodward: “George Tenet's sitting on the couch, stands up, and says, ‘Don't worry, it's a slam dunk case.’" And the president challenges him again and Tenet says, ‘The case, it's a slam dunk.’ ...I asked the president about this and he said it was very important to have the CIA director – ‘Slam-dunk is as I interpreted is a sure thing, guaranteed. No possibility it won't go through the hoop.’ Others present, Cheney, very impressed.”
What did Woodward think of Tenet’s statement? “It’s a mistake,” he says. “Now the significance of that mistake - that was the key rationale for war.” It was just two weeks later when the president decided to go to war.
So did Bush lie? Or did Tenet lie?
Simply, the German's verdict was to dibelieve Bush's claims and war.
Germany rejected the reasons for war.
Germany provided a reason to go to war....their intelligence prompted Bush to act.
So who lied Ion? Bush or Tenet?
But Woodward says that Tenet was wrong. Again. And to this day, Woodward reports, the CIA still doesn’t know if the information from the Rock Stars was reliable, or if Saddam was really there that night. “Again, we have the fog of war, the fog of intelligence,” says Woodward.
You have a problem with English, Azure....
Woodward said this about Armitage...
Do you trust Woodward, or is he lying too?
Armitage doesn't have an axe to grind.
Armitage reported Wilson's claims of no Nigerian uranium in Iraq, well.
Bush has an axe to grind.
He used a false claim of Nigerian uranium in Iraq.
Bush.So who lied Ion? Bush or Tenet?
You have a problem with English, Azure.
Armitage doesn't have an axe to grind.
Armitage reported Wilson's claims of no Nigerian uranium in Iraq, well.
Bush has an axe to grind.
He used a false claim of Nigerian uranium in Iraq.
Azure,
you are Canadian.
Do you speak French?
It's an official language there.
I speak French.
In case you don't understand English.
I don't trust CNN, Fox.
I trust Plan of Attack by Bob Woodward.
Germany's Schroeder didn't believe Bush's claims and war.
Oh, so Ion is an ignorant fool.
Azure,
you are Canadian.
Do you speak French?
It's an official language there.
I speak French.
In case you don't understand English.
No, I opted out of the French immersion classes to pursue better and more worthwhile subjects.
And WTF does that have to do with the subject at hand?
Bush.
I thought you...
I trust Plan of Attack by Bob Woodward.
But only if Woodward supports your pathetic agenda, right?