Chuck Hagel about to wipe Israel off the map?

[Childlike Empress]

One could get that image from the campaign launched against his nomination for Secretary of Defense.

 

[Puppycow]

Did any of these people voicing concerns now voice similar concerns about Hagel back when he was a Republican senator from Nebraska?

Is it only now because Obama might nominate him that they suddenly find him objectionable?

 

[hgc]

On that topic, I recommend reading Andrew Sullivan taking apart a Washington Post editorial smearing Hegel. It's a thorough deconstruction of neocon propaganda boilerplate.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/12/the-neocons-rally-against-hagel.html

 

[NoahFence]

So basically Obama is thinking of doing something and republicans are hell-bent against it.


wow. didn't see that coming.

 

[pgwenthold]

So basically Obama is thinking of doing something and republicans are hell-bent against it.


wow. didn't see that coming.

Exactly. What kind of dissonance does it take for Republicans to object to Obama appointing a republican to a candidate position? The president appointing a republican to the cabinet is obviously a terrible thing

 

[AlBell]

Sieg heil to our resident anti-semites. Our do you consider yourselves anti-zionists?

 

[geni]

Sieg heil to our resident anti-semites. Our do you consider yourselves anti-zionists?

What exactly are you refering to?

 

[Puppycow]

What exactly are you refering to?

+1

 

[Brainster]

Well, now the liberals have a reason to oppose him:

Mr. Hagel did not oppose the nomination when Mr. Hormel came before the panel. But he later spoke out against it, saying that an “openly, aggressively gay” man should not represent the United States.

“They are representing America,” Mr. Hagel said in an interview with The Omaha World-Herald. “They are representing our lifestyle, our values, our standards. And I think it is an inhibiting factor to be gay — openly, aggressively gay like Mr. Hormel — to do an effective job.”

 

[Childlike Empress]

Well, now the liberals have a reason to oppose him:

Interesting. Eager to dig up dirt, are they? 14 year old article. I looked it up - the "World Herald" brought it to the web yesterday. Here. Directly following the NYT quote:

Hagel noted a documentary, filmed with money Hormel donated, that showed teachers how they could teach children about homosexuality. He said he had seen another video clip that showed Hormel at what Hagel called an anti - Catholic event in San Francisco, featuring the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence," a group of male drag queens.

"It is very clear on this tape that he's laughing and enjoying the antics of an anti - Catholic gay group in this gay parade," Hagel said. "I think it's wise for the president not to go forward with this nomination."

Luxembourg, he noted, is about 95 percent Roman Catholic.

And later:

Hagel, meanwhile, said a homosexual should not necessarily be disqualified from all ambassadorships.

His approach to nominees, he said, has been to examine the person's qualifications first. The United States has had gay ambassadors in the past and gays in the military, who have done well by quietly adopting the Pentagon's current "don't ask, don't tell" attitude.

Hormel, however, has gone beyond that, Hagel said.

He "very aggressively told the world of his gayness and the funding and all the things he's been involved in. I think you do go beyond common sense there, and reason and a certain amount of decorum," Hagel said.

"If you send an ambassador abroad with a cloud of controversy hanging over him, then I think it's unfair to our country, it's unfair to the host country and it's unfair to the ambassador because the effectiveness of that individual is going to be seriously curtailed. That's just a fact of life. And I believe Hormel's situation is one of those."

Uuuh, what a blowhard!

 

[Monketi Ghost]

So basically Obama is thinking of doing something and republicans are hell-bent against it.


wow. didn't see that coming.

The GOP has an image problem. They look like ********.

 

[Beerina]

The GOP has an image problem. They look like ********.

I remember an old Bloom County where an alien who looks like a Disney puppy, is testifying before Congress, and the senators are digging their own hole bigger the more they attack.

One senator to another: "Dammit, Lindblum! You said he'd look like 'The Blob!' "

"No. I said you did!"

 

[Darth Rotor]

Wait a minute. I have read about fifteen articles, mostly commentary, about Chuck Hagel's potential as Sec Def.

How in the hell is he an anti Semite? Is this just because Abe Foxman says so?

I smell another smear campaign. I think Hagel would make a decent Sec Def, but I am still not sure who'd be as good as Gates was.

 

[Puppycow]

Well, now the liberals have a reason to oppose him:

Not to defend or excuse his remarks, but the country as a whole has come a long way on gay rights in the last 14 years. My own position has evolved considerably in that time span. Perhaps Hagel's position has evolved too.

On gay rights issues, the Human Rights Campaign gave Mr. Hagel a rating of zero for most of his Senate career. In 2006, however, he opposed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, saying that it was an issue best left to the states.

Mr. Kerrey said he recalled the episode with Mr. Hormel, but said: “I do not believe it represents the real Chuck Hagel. I think it’s an anomaly.”

 

[balrog666]

The GOP has an image problem. They look like ********.

Like Dhimmies? Oh, no!

 

[A'isha]

Like Dhimmies? Oh, no!

You do realize how dumb you sound every time you say that, right?

 

[Unabogie]

You do realize how dumb you sound every time you say that, right?

I don't think so. On the Newsmax forums they probably find that the height of wit.

Many guffaws are had.

 

[Travis]

Can anyone think of any person Obama could nominate that the right wouldn't object to?

 

[Unabogie]

Can anyone think of any person Obama could nominate that the right wouldn't object to?

Dick Cheney.

 

[Travis]

Yes but if Obama nominates Dick Cheney then it must mean that Cheney has gone over to the side of evil or something.