Christianity: Is it the "Red Pen"?

[athon]

We've had the 'red pen' discussion brought up at school. I'm very vocal against such rubbish, and our science department has argued against such a b*llocks change.

Sure, change to a purple pen if you want. Then purple becomes the new red...a 'negative colour'. Hell, I tick with red as well, and write positive responses. Red is 'my' colour, not the student's. Not black, or blue. Red! Hence the student can immediately see what I've marked.

Ad for atheists being the purple...or whatever...WTF??

Atheism is not offered as an alternative form of measure for society. It is an absence of belief in any sort of divine correction system; it's 'no pen', if you want (such a stoopid analogy). And while we might have a concentration of atheists here, there is no movement, no conspiracy, no organised approach to spreading the word of the 'new way' between them

Athon

 

[Z]

Red pen, Purple pen. Just further evidence that our society is going to crap. We are raising our children to be lazy and dependent. Our primary education system is a joke! And there are so many groups to blame. primarily lawyers! especially where you have one isolated case which causes politicians to jump in and make sweeping laws which do more damage than good.
School lunches were bad enough, but now children are being put on starvation diets because schools don't want to be sued for having fat kids. Most of the time school lunch is the only meal these kids have because thier parents are irresponsible or working double shifts to pay the bills.
And parents!. In denial that thier little Johnny has a learning disability or that they use school as day care.
Special interest group loonies with an axe to grind or a thesis paper to publish whining that you can't allow a child's feelings to get hurt or challenge thier self esteem. How does that prepare the child for life when the real world could care less about your "feelings"? How about helping then to deal with reality rather than shielding them from it?
Religious pressure groups, trying to force thier belief system on a group of varied religious beliefs. Religeon should stay at home.

Oh the list goes on, lazy and burnt out teachers, school board administrators tunnel visioned on the bottom line, forcing teachers to teach to a test for federal funding. Reactionary government officials passing sweeping laws based on individual and isolated situations so they can make thier constituants believe they actualy doing something.

Whew! I got that out of my system.

And that's why I home-school my 'special needs' child, and my housemate sends her two to a Montesorri (did I mess that up?) school and monitors EVERYTHING that goes on there (she's at the school two or three times a month for 'general check-up').

And the other three in the house will be schooled as we determine is best for them - even if that means three more differing modes of education.

Eighteen more years of this, and I'll be able to take a break and maybe go back to college.

~Z, considering his new pro-birth control point of view...~

 

[sackett]

...Atheism is ... 'no pen'....

No, that would be Zen.

 

[uruk]

And that's why I home-school my 'special needs' child, and my housemate sends her two to a Montesorri (did I mess that up?) school and monitors EVERYTHING that goes on there (she's at the school two or three times a month for 'general check-up').

Good for both of you! Education should be a parents responsibilty also. Not just a place to send your kid to get 'em out of your hair. Parents should be very active in a child education and not just hampering or dictating how a school should do it's job.

 

[Pahansiri]

it seems there is a wave of support for replacing the teachers red corrective pen with a purple one.

are christians the red pen?
are atheists the purple pen?

here is one article.

it seems that the red corrective pen has brought about feelings ranging from emotional damage to outright rage.

here's an interesting read: "yeah, right, purple will soothe little johnny."

it seems the atheist feels the same way about their world view as youngsters feel about their purple corrective marks. its more soothing, comforting. there's a certain camaraderie in being part of the purple corrective mark organization.

what happens when purple "dries up" so to speak? will there be a frantic rush to office depot for a...RED PEN?!

Must be part of the Evil Gay Agenda and its secret plan to turn all school kids gay. Remember what Jerry Falwell said about purple being the “gay color”

First step in the evil plan

now this

The end is near.

 

[Robin]

I have to say that this is accurate. Atheists all actually believe in God but pretend to be atheists because it is more soothing and there is more camaraderie. We just need to pop down the road to one of the many Atheist meeting halls and meet atheists, there just aren't any facilities like that for Christians or other theists.

When I was a kid and my family were Christian and all the people I knew were Christian I said to myself "I know, I will become an atheist for the camaraderie!"

And of course as Riddick points out there is JREF and no Christian websites whatsoever. And of course there is nothing quite so soothing as the forum at JREF is there?

The fact that there is no evidence for the existence of God has nothing to do with it at all.

 

[Riddick]

Yeah, but that so-called 'octopus' is really a middle-aged, balding walrus...

if you'd like to meet in person and square things up, i'm all for it. you can see me leaping over my computer right now for you - WHAZZUP???!!!

at the time and place we set, remember to tap out if you find yourself in a jam. meaning, all you have to do is slap your palm down repeatedly on the pavement and i'll let you loose.

if you would prefer not to meet, simply submit a picture of your face, with your bare ass in the frame, and your middle finger at least two knuckles deep in your rectum. this will serve as a "web tap out", so you have an alternative to meeting in person.

btw, if we meet in person, your jref moderators won't be there to protect you. they do like to protect their own kind. further, if you tap out, i get to press charges against you for assault & battery. you will describe to the court that you were the one who attacked me, with repeated blows. you will tell the court that my kicking your arse was in self-defense.

here are the court ordered penalties you will submit to (irregardless of whether the charges brought against you are your first transgression of the law):

1. two months prison
2. twelve months probation in the state of your primary residence, to be served concurrently after your release from prison.
3. twelve months probation in the state of your secondary residence, if you have one. to be served concurrently after your release from prison.
4. your internet priviledges will be revoked for a period of twelve months. to be served concurrently after your two months of prison

 

[Riddick]

I have to say that this is accurate. Atheists all actually believe in God but pretend to be atheists because it is more soothing and there is more camaraderie. We just need to pop down the road to one of the many Atheist meeting halls and meet atheists, there just aren't any facilities like that for Christians or other theists.

When I was a kid and my family were Christian and all the people I knew were Christian I said to myself "I know, I will become an atheist for the camaraderie!"

And of course as Riddick points out there is JREF and no Christian websites whatsoever. And of course there is nothing quite so soothing as the forum at JREF is there?

The fact that there is no evidence for the existence of God has nothing to do with it at all.

the more you have to pimp your case, the less of a case you have.

if you have to beat the streets, drum up support for your view, it means that your view lacks credibility.

"BUT THEY HAVE CHRISTIAN WEBSITES!!!!! OMG I DONT BELIEVE THIS!!!!!!!!! WHAT LENGTHS WILL THE CHRISTIANS GO TO!!!!!!!! I'M GOING TO PULL MY HAIR OUT!!!!!! THEY HAVE NO PROOF OF GOD I TELL YOU!!!! THE FACT IS THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF GOD!!!!!! PLEASE!!!! TELL ME THIS MAKES SENSE TO YOU???!!!"
maybe your position would look stronger if you wrote that down with a purple pen?

 

[P.S.A.]

if you'd like to meet in person and square things up, i'm all for it. you can see me leaping over my computer right now for you - WHAZZUP???!!!

at the time and place we set, remember to tap out if you find yourself in a jam.

*snip idiotic macho posturing*

Ok, who broke Riddick?!

 

[EdipisReks]

i'd like to meet Riddick on the street, but then again, i routinely carry a Sig P229 so i probably wouldn't need to "tap out".

just to be clear, Ohio's self defense statutes are such that i would feel justified in clearing kydex if a crazy guy, like Riddick, jumped in my face and didn't leave me alone if i clearly stated that i felt threatened by his actions.

 

[Z]

if you'd like to meet in person and square things up, i'm all for it. you can see me leaping over my computer right now for you - WHAZZUP???!!!

at the time and place we set, remember to tap out if you find yourself in a jam. meaning, all you have to do is slap your palm down repeatedly on the pavement and i'll let you loose.

if you would prefer not to meet, simply submit a picture of your face, with your bare ass in the frame, and your middle finger at least two knuckles deep in your rectum. this will serve as a "web tap out", so you have an alternative to meeting in person.

btw, if we meet in person, your jref moderators won't be there to protect you. they do like to protect their own kind. further, if you tap out, i get to press charges against you for assault & battery. you will describe to the court that you were the one who attacked me, with repeated blows. you will tell the court that my kicking your arse was in self-defense.

here are the court ordered penalties you will submit to (irregardless of whether the charges brought against you are your first transgression of the law):

1. two months prison
2. twelve months probation in the state of your primary residence, to be served concurrently after your release from prison.
3. twelve months probation in the state of your secondary residence, if you have one. to be served concurrently after your release from prison.
4. your internet priviledges will be revoked for a period of twelve months. to be served concurrently after your two months of prison

What on Earth are you babbling about? Is wanton violence indicative of the Christian imperative? Though this is pretty typical.

If you have to resort to violence instead of being able to offer evidence of your religious foundations, that's pretty weak. It means you lack credibility AND integrity.

FYI - don't even think about actually facing off with me. No one - and I am telling the absolute truth here, no bragging required - has ever, EVER, gotten the better of me physically. Something to do with a combination of reduced awareness of pain, severe ADHD reactivity to aggression, and a lifetime of training in the art of causing damage. Oh, and lack of 'conscience' or 'restraint' - and, as pointed out by E.R., our state would very simply defend me as being the unfortunate victim, even as I was being treated for bruises while they carry your carcass off in a meat wagon.

Observe, Gentle Reader, the unfortunate case of the unrelenting Christian rectum. Here is a person so fearful of any way not his own, that he will even threaten violence on the person of a priest, and in response to what - a metaphoric comparison relating what someone claims to be versus what they actually are, as relates to internet identity? Somehow, he takes offense at the revelation that some on the Internet are not what they portray themselves to be. And, to his Christian mindframe, the proper response is a lot of barbaric testosterone-laced posturing - hollow posturing, mind you, but nonetheless, annoying and rather senseless.

At any rate, you may do as you please - it is a free country. But recall that every action has its consequences, Ride-Dick, and you might not like those consequences, ya balding Walrus.

 

[Robin]

the more you have to pimp your case, the less of a case you have.

if you have to beat the streets, drum up support for your view, it means that your view lacks credibility.

"BUT THEY HAVE CHRISTIAN WEBSITES!!!!! OMG I DONT BELIEVE THIS!!!!!!!!! WHAT LENGTHS WILL THE CHRISTIANS GO TO!!!!!!!! I'M GOING TO PULL MY HAIR OUT!!!!!! THEY HAVE NO PROOF OF GOD I TELL YOU!!!! THE FACT IS THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF GOD!!!!!! PLEASE!!!! TELL ME THIS MAKES SENSE TO YOU???!!!"
maybe your position would look stronger if you wrote that down with a purple pen?

Notice how you just changed my word "evidence" to your word "proof"? Surround it with a bit of ranting in the hope that I would not notice.

People are atheists simply because they don't believe there is evidence of a God.

Oh and the point about the web-sites that you were avoiding - you claim that people become atheist for camaraderie and give JREF as evidence - I show you that Christians have just the same resources. Plus all those churches.

No amount of capital letters and exclamation marks will cover up the fact that your original post was really dumb.

 

[Riddick]

What on Earth are you babbling about? Is wanton violence indicative of the Christian imperative? Though this is pretty typical.

If you have to resort to violence instead of being able to offer evidence of your religious foundations, that's pretty weak. It means you lack credibility AND integrity.

FYI - don't even think about actually facing off with me. No one - and I am telling the absolute truth here, no bragging required - has ever, EVER, gotten the better of me physically. Something to do with a combination of reduced awareness of pain, severe ADHD reactivity to aggression, and a lifetime of training in the art of causing damage. Oh, and lack of 'conscience' or 'restraint' - and, as pointed out by E.R., our state would very simply defend me as being the unfortunate victim, even as I was being treated for bruises while they carry your carcass off in a meat wagon.

Observe, Gentle Reader, the unfortunate case of the unrelenting Christian rectum. Here is a person so fearful of any way not his own, that he will even threaten violence on the person of a priest, and in response to what - a metaphoric comparison relating what someone claims to be versus what they actually are, as relates to internet identity? Somehow, he takes offense at the revelation that some on the Internet are not what they portray themselves to be. And, to his Christian mindframe, the proper response is a lot of barbaric testosterone-laced posturing - hollow posturing, mind you, but nonetheless, annoying and rather senseless.

At any rate, you may do as you please - it is a free country. But recall that every action has its consequences, Ride-Dick, and you might not like those consequences, ya balding Walrus.

i think you're missing the point here bud. you can try and round up all the support you can at jref. maybe a few of them will come to your funeral. if you have to rant on about your prowess, you're trying to establish something that isn't really there. there is a fundamental rule of skirmishes: no one is unbeatable, that includes you.

i didn't really limit what i can use against you. how good are you at stopping bullets? remember, it was in self defense.

you have choosen to employ personal attacks. is that indicative of the character of atheists such of yourself? this has nothing to do with what religion you have. it is simply retaliation for bad taste on your part. you have asserted that you can "beat the frig out of me (or similar to that)". that pretty much tells a while lot about your character right there. what kind of example are you?

i'm half bald. been that way since...college i guess. i was nearly an open class skier. so i will be focused on my task at hand. i prefer an H&K .45 ACP, won't go through you like 9mm and leave two holes. the .45 will lift you off your feet and knock you down.

remember, it's a contract. you agree to the terms, i'll meet you and put enough bullets in you to kill you while i go down. if i go down. i'll make sure you bleed real good.

remember, it was in self defense. you were the attacker. it will be signed by you before we begin.

 

[Riddick]

Notice how you just changed my word "evidence" to your word "proof"? Surround it with a bit of ranting in the hope that I would not notice.

the all caps stuff in quotes was your rant, just in case you weren't able to discern the complexity of it.

People are atheists simply because they don't believe there is evidence of a God.

they might as well believe there's no oxygen.

Oh and the point about the web-sites that you were avoiding - you claim that people become atheist for camaraderie and give JREF as evidence - I show you that Christians have just the same resources. Plus all those churches.

funny, you didn't mention hospitals.


atheists have their organizations: mensa. other bbs's. state chapters of atheism. national atheist society. do you want me to provide a list of links to atheist organizations (not web based)? aussie atheism. euro atheism. from what kids tell me, every university campus is 100% atheist.

No amount of capital letters and exclamation marks will cover up the fact that your original post was really dumb.

try not to be so serious about things. don't worry, be happy. lighten up. maybe you guys don't know how to have fun around here.

 

[Z]

i think you're missing the point here bud. you can try and round up all the support you can at jref. maybe a few of them will come to your funeral. if you have to rant on about your prowess, you're trying to establish something that isn't really there. there is a fundamental rule of skirmishes: no one is unbeatable, that includes you.

i didn't really limit what i can use against you. how good are you at stopping bullets? remember, it was in self defense.

you have choosen to employ personal attacks. is that indicative of the character of atheists such of yourself? this has nothing to do with what religion you have. it is simply retaliation for bad taste on your part. you have asserted that you can "beat the frig out of me (or similar to that)". that pretty much tells a while lot about your character right there. what kind of example are you?

i'm half bald. been that way since...college i guess. i was nearly an open class skier. so i will be focused on my task at hand. i prefer an H&K .45 ACP, won't go through you like 9mm and leave two holes. the .45 will lift you off your feet and knock you down.

remember, it's a contract. you agree to the terms, i'll meet you and put enough bullets in you to kill you while i go down. if i go down. i'll make sure you bleed real good.

remember, it was in self defense. you were the attacker. it will be signed by you before we begin.

Just out of curiosity -

1) are you threatening me?

2) what point do you have for doing so?

3) and why? Just because you're an *******?

Just curious.

 

[KelvinG]

try not to be so serious about things. don't worry, be happy. lighten up. maybe you guys don't know how to have fun around here.

Personally, I find it hard to lighten up when someone is throwing around threats of shooting other people.
Go figure.

 

[TragicMonkey]

from what kids tell me, every university campus is 100% atheist.

I think it depends on the university. Mine was 85% Southern Baptist, and the majority of that seemed quite devout. The next biggest slice was Presbyterian.

For some reason people like to talk about how leftist and atheist academe is-- they seem to think that Ivy League and the University of California is the sum total, forgetting the rest of the country. Like, the South? Yeah, HUGE atheist movement on campuses there. You would find enough atheists for a game of bridge, maybe.

 

[Ratman_tf]

the .45 will lift you off your feet and knock you down.

No. If a .45 slug carried enough kintetic energy to "lift you off your feet and knock you down" the kick would lift you up and knock you down. Or the gun would go flying out of your grasp, and we know people don't have .45's flinging all over the place at gun ranges. It's simple physics, really. For every action...

[/pedant]

 

[Riddick]

Just out of curiosity -

1) are you threatening me?

2) what point do you have for doing so?

3) and why? Just because you're an *******?

Just curious.

1. no threat. it is basically a gentlemans' agreement. however, it will be on paper that you attacked me, and i retaliated. it will be clear to the courts from the written agreement that you were the attacker in the exchange. i will be the one on defense. therefore, the state will prosecute you on my behalf if you live. then, the full extent of the law can be employed against you if i die in the skirmish.
2. to bring about a better person in you. that you will come to realize saying bad things about other humans is a poor character flaw. the teacher does not have to be a model example.
3. i'm just someone on the internet. we have that in common. we should refrain from inappropriate behavior. i myself have not been a model example. some of you know that
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[Riddick]

No. If a .45 slug carried enough kintetic energy to "lift you off your feet and knock you down" the kick would lift you up and knock you down. Or the gun would go flying out of your grasp, and we know people don't have .45's flinging all over the place at gun ranges. It's simple physics, really. For every action...

[/pedant]

my source is a navy seal, who, for many years, held the agility record for seals.