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Christian Ninja Greg Park aka ChosonNinja

OK, I've got a few reactions to the first video. For a start, much of his behaviour is calculated for effect. When he throws the dart, then turns towards the camera before it hits and says "just like that" it's a move for effect. Yes, he has hit the target, and he knows it. But his behaviour is intended to convey an impression - that of casual skill. Yes, he's very good. But at the same time, you don't see any of his attempts that don't hit the target. They didn't make the target, for obvious reasons.

You can see at approx 4:01 that the dart has penetrated the can and the exit hole is the larger one. Okay, this is easily explainable. The point of the dart enters the near side of the can, and this actually acts as the fulcrum, or rotation point, of the dart. I was wrong in my earlier assessment that the entry point would be the larger hole. You learn something new every day. At 4:28, notice how much material is distorted at the exit point.

BTW, I can't make out whether the dart spins or flies flat in this video, but over such a distance, flying flat would be much harder, so I assume that it is spinning.

I'm getting a little tired of his "just like that" act.

Wait - how many times has he thrown the dart through that can? At 6:40, he shows the can with one penetration - no other visible holes! That should clue you in that there's something going on.

His final point - that long distance throws are redundant - is absolutely true. If you need to kill someone from 60ft away, you use a bow, not any kind of thrown weapon. The main reason is adequately demonstrated in the video - he can hit a stationary target. On the battlefield, your target will not be stationary. The slow travel of the dart will almost certainly mean that your target will have moved before you hit him.

It's an impressive throw. But like I said, from this video you get absolutely no indication of how accurate he is. He could have made a hundred attempts to get the six or seven hits that are shown in the video. Mind you, I doubt that I could hit with even one throw. His skill is quite impressive.

Nothing strange or supernatural here, just skill with a thrown dart. The impact with the can is exactly what is expected with an end-over-end shot. If someone had a high-speed camera trained on the impact point, you would see how the dart penetrates the can as though it was travelling flat.

The material of the can absorbs the energy of the projectile very efficiently. Its movement is very effectively constrained by the material that it is penetrating.
 
In the second video, I'm pretty sure the guy hit the can with his hand as he cast the dart - it was a very different motion to the first. It's hard to tell, though.

There is no comparison between the first video - a long-distance tumbling throw - and the second - a very close straight "pool-cue" cast. They are totally different. What Choson did in the first video is far from impossible, and the second guy completely failed to demonstrate that it was.
 
I haven't viewed the video yet, but as a knife-thrower of some experience (started about 1965...) I think I could say that anyone claiming a non-rotational throw of anything more than about 30 feet is very suspect.
I'm familiar with the technique; it's practiced in several disciplines. However, it's rather weak, and works best at short range.
Just "sticking" a conventional throwing knife consistently at such distances is a feat that can be accomplished by very few.
 
the no spin, technically quarter spin method over long distances i can do and a few other people can, it's the style most often used in japan and i've been doing it for years, but throwing with spin over long distances and getting perfectly level penetration on both sides of a can doesn't look like something easily done to me
 
I never claimed that it was easily done. In fact, I think you'll find that I claimed that it was a very impressive feat that would have required a great deal of training and practice. But it didn't strike me as physically impossible.
 

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