chiropractors break baby's neck

[Moon-Spinner]

I would be very interested to hear more about the research surround chiropractics. Do you know the rate of adverse events in this setting? After all there are plenty of horror stories out there for pretty much any form of medical or pseudo-medical intervention. In my country this is a poorly regulated activity. Sure an organisation exists but they seldom put out any kind of statistics regarding the field.

It's been a long time since I was in college (we didn't have the internet yet), and I haven't followed these things very closely since then, only to shake my head when I hear about these incidents, and to warn friends about going to practitioners of alternative medicine (one friend had a chronic headache, she went to a chiropractor who then taped a magnet to her ankle, I guess to pull the bad energy away from her head After going to a "Real" doctor, she found out she had a fractured jaw from a fall she had a few months prior...).

Sure, there are bad incidents in the real medical community, but there is regulation and they try to base their practice on actual research. A lot of Alternative medicine is harmless, unless they're trying to treat a serious ailment, a lot of it just gives false hope to people that don't even have an ailment ("take two drops of this plant extract in water every morning, and you will have positive energy all day"), but then some of it can be very harmful (and cause paralysis!). I've known some chiropractors personally, and they often just make ***** up, and tell their patients nonsense (that they made up), and sell them voodoo medicines, and make sure they keep coming on a regular basis in order to stay healthy (in other words, they need your constant business).

 

[CMRTIXPS57]

Maybe the point of the magnets was to give her sore feet thus forgetting the headache.

 

[Orphia Nay]

Yesterday’s damage limitation from the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...476983412326998.111566.134686669890009&type=1

A copy of the report was published online by an Australian spine surgeon today. See para 34: C2 fracture on CT scan...
http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/tableOffice/TabledPapers/2013/5413T3781.pdf

Chiropractors’ Association of Australia misleading again, apparently.

Thank you, Blue Wode!

The pertinent paragraph of the report:

 

[Blue Wode]

Care to translate for the layman?

Here you go:

Yesterday the Chiropractors’ Association of Australia (CAA) demanded an apology for a smear on the profession, saying the AHPRA report found no evidence of a fracture in the baby, who was diagnosed with congenital spondylosis.

The report by an independent chiropractor, tabled in the Queensland parliament yesterday, outlined a number of criticisms of the chiropractor but said the treatment described would not create sufficient force to cause a C1 or C2 fracture in an infant.

However, an expert has said the report was poorly conducted and lacked specialist knowledge.

Spinal surgeon Mr John Cunningham said he and his colleagues had no doubt the child suffered a fracture.

“The radiology report promoted by the CAA was a CT performed around the time of the injury,” he said.

“I strongly suspect that the injury was through the congenital defect, the weak point, which would have contained cartilaginous tissue. This would not be visible on the initial CT as cartilage is simply not seen.

“A second CT, performed some weeks later, clearly indicates new bone formation and healing of a concurrent fracture.”

Mr Cunningham said the CAA must have appreciated the significance of the second CT scan.

“What I find disingenuous is the manner in which they only released to the press the first CT report,” he added.

He said the Queensland parliament had been misled by a poor quality investigation by a chiropractor into the actions of their own.

Link: http://www.medicalobserver.com.au/news/no-doubt-babys-neck-was-fractured-doctors-say

In a nutshell, there WAS a fracture, despite the President (Laurie Tassell) of the Chiropractors' Association of Australia originally saying that there was none.

For the FACTS and latest developments on this case follow John Cunningham's two accounts on Twitter: @jc_bigears and @JCSpine Mr Cunningham is an Australian spinal orthopaedic surgeon specialising in cervical and lumbar spinal degeneration and trauma, and is also an epidemiologist and vocal advocate for vaccination and evidence based medicine.

 

[uvar]

Here you go:
In a nutshell, there WAS a fracture, despite the President (Laurie Tassell) of the Chiropractors' Association of Australia originally saying that there was none.

Oh, of course, that makes more sense than my imagined dispute. Man, I sure am making a lot of poor assumptions recently. Thanks.

 

[CMRTIXPS57]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-3Nh0W3yRA

I really should be studying as opposed to watching these documentaries.

 

[Moon-Spinner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-3Nh0W3yRA

I really should be studying as opposed to watching these documentaries.

This was a good episode, thanks for the link.

 

[jimbob]

Maybe the point of the magnets was to give her sore feet thus forgetting the headache.

Nominated

 

[Moon-Spinner]

Maybe the point of the magnets was to give her sore feet thus forgetting the headache.

Actually, we used to makes jokes about it afterward, saying that she would have ended up with a footache instead of a headache, or if it really worked she would be limping, etc...

And now that I'm thinking about it, is "Bad Energy" (what the Alternative Medicine crowd believes in) suppose to be attracted to magnets? and if they do, which pole are they attracted too?? Inquiring minds want to know...