China: Force Against Taiwan May Be 'Unavoidable'

[Malachi151]

Eminent domain, eh? I don't seem to recall Chang Kai Shek's ever having ratified Mao's constitution.

#1 Shek was a corrupt bastard. Shek murdered more people than the Communists did, Shek had no more right to authority than anyone else in China, Shek was long dead by the time this happened.

Horrors!

The point is that China was not acting as some totally repressive regime. They gave the protestors a LOT of leway and were very cooperative with them. The Chinese government was giving medical care to protestors thjat were having trouble due to their fast even.

During the large protests of the Vietnam War, the US government used water cannons, tear gas, hand-to-hand combat, and some small arms, yes. And this was widely criticized. Probably the closest the US has is the Kent State massacre. But, and here's the point that seems to be whizzing over your head: Americans still remember Kent State as a great tragedy. With very few exceptions, we don't emit apologia over the incident, and we don't sweep it under the rug.

Waco, though not a protest situation, was a much more extreme case, and many people consider that horrible, too.

WTF? Show me someone who does not still consider Tienanmen Square to be a major stain on China's reputation? Who are these people that want to sweep it under the carpet? Have you seen the polls and interviews after Kent State that showed a large number of Americans approved of the shootings at the time? The protestors at Kent State were called "worse than Hitler's Brown Shirts", by the governor of the state on national television. The protestors at Tienanmen Square had major sympathy from the Chinese government. BIg difference.

Awww... Poor Gorby. Six whole days.

Again, point being that the Chinese government was allowing the protestors to distupt thier agenda and they didn't use any force during that entire time thinking that if they just gave in that after he had left the protests would peacefully disperse.

YES! That's the whole point! America was and should have been condemned for Kent State. There's a memorial there; we remember it. We don't draw a little happy face. We're not planning on covering the site with sand and using it for volleyball courts the way China was planning to do with Tien An Men square for the Olympics.

Of for Christ's sake, its in the middle of an important part of the city, they have to keep using the place. As for a memorial, I don't know if they have one or not, but yes, they certianly should.

Still, the Chinese sent in unarmed troops at first to try and get the people to leave, but the troops wee attacked, so they then had to send in armed troops for their own protection. And again, about half the people killed in the incident were troops, it was not a "massacre", it was a battle with the students starting the fight.

 

[WildCat]

Just for the record, Malachi would have no problem if a government sends the army to slaughter protesters. Anyone still want to live in Malachiville?