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Childlike Empress' Thread on Freemasonry

LightinDarkness

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After repeatedly derailing my thread on Freeman on the Land wooism and trolling it to the extent that the thread is probably ruined, I have started this thread for Childlike Empress. I don't know of any other way to prevent the constant trolling of the other thread, as my repeated calls to make a separate thread were ignored by the troll.

So here you go, Childlike Empress. You can now bash Freemasonry all you want and be on topic. I don't know why you refused to make this thread on your own.
 
This was my original post in that thread:

I never make it through one of LightInDarkness' posts without thinking to myself, sorry, "this guy has a screw loose". Before you ask, I consider Freemasonary to be a pathetic club of greedy boyscouts who don't rule anything. Your posts, LiD, are counterproductive. Talking about threwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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I think the reaction objectifies my impression.
 
From the previous thread:

LightinDarkness said:
please outline the core of your believe, as it isn't secret. Three sentences or so would suffice. Thanks.
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The core of freemasonic philosophy is the equality of all men, always pursing truth, and the need for community charity. It really is just that simple.
 
Childlike Empress said:
This was my original post in that thread:




I think the reaction objectifies my impression.
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It does indeed objectify your supreme lack of knowledge that you use to troll, on that we agree.

I suspect now that I have provided you an obvious outlet to bash freemasonry instead of derailing threads that have nothing to do with it, you will disappear. You could surprise me with a respectable discussion of the subject, but I'm not counting on it.
 
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LightinDarkness said:
From the previous thread:



The core of freemasonic philosophy is the equality of all men, always pursing truth, and the need for community charity. It really is just that simple.
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According to some people in the politics forum i am a commie, and what you wrote would in the same superficial way cover communism as freemasonary. What about Hiram Abiff and the Temple of Solomon?
 
Childlike Empress said:
According to some people in the politics forum i am a commie, and what you wrote would in the same superficial way cover communism as freemasonary. What about Hiram Abiff and the Temple of Solomon?
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What in the world? You ask me for a simple answer and I give it to you, then you claim its superficial? Wrong. Its the truth - but its not what you want it to be.

What about Hiriam Abiff and the Temple of Solomon? Both in freemasonry are allegorical myths used to teach the importance of the first three things I talked about. Its the very definition of a morality play.
 
I'm still a card-carrying Freemason though I haven't attended Lodge in over a year now. I'm not sure what is meant by "greedy boyscouts who don't rule anything". Masons have never claimed to rule anything, and at what was probably the peak of Masonic fundraising, over 2 million dollars per day were given to charitable causes. Hardly greedy.

As with any organization, fraternities in particular, there there are things that one could point out as flaws, but as the organization is dynamic, those flaws tend to correct themselves. What bothers you about Freemasonry, CE? I'm not here to try to robotically counter any claim you make, but I usually post in any Freemasonry thread I find as the organization interests me and I have firsthand experience in it.
 
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I should add, there is plenty I don't like about the fraternity, and had I not become an atheist a few years after joining, would've worked from the inside to change.
 
Childlike Empress said:
The none-simple answer wouldn't be understandable to me anyway, would it? EOD. Vy 73.
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What are you talking about?

Freemasonry isn't rocket science. Its pretty easy to understand - which is why the main tenets aren't ground breaking or earth shattering. But you don't want to believe it could be that simple.

You completely derailed my thread which had nothing to do about freemasonry and kept trying to talk about it in the wrong thread, so you must have something you'd like to discuss.

What, you want more detail? You just told me to be simple, but OK:

In the allegorical myths that freemasonry uses, Abiff functions as the center character in the third degree, which in large part features a morality play. The story (and, because its a morality play, its only a story) is that Abiff was the chief architect of King Solomon's Temple. The story goes that during the building of the temple some of the operative masons working on it were upset that they were not getting promoted enough, and they confronted him about it. During that time period a "promotion" for operative stone masons was learning the secrets of the next class up, which were trade secrets. Abiff refused to give the secrets and is killed by these stone masons. They bury his body and try to flee the country, but are caught. Upon being caught Abiff is buried in a nicer place and the murderers ordered to be killed off by King Solomon.

The candidate plays the role of Abiff, whose lines are spoken for him by one of the officers. After all the morality play is over the candidate - who was told previously to lay down and not move (since Abiff is dead) is lifted back up.
 
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prewitt81 said:
What bothers you about Freemasonry, CE? I'm not here to try to robotically counter any claim you make, but I usually post in any Freemasonry thread I find as the organization interest me and I have firsthand experience in it.
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Comparatively not much bothers me about freemasonery. I was annoyed by a post by LiD, expressed my feelings and there we have this thread.
 
LightinDarkness said:
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The core of freemasonic philosophy is the equality of all men, always pursing truth, and the need for community charity. It really is just that simple.
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:confused:

What made you become a member, then?

How come they let you in?
 
JihadJane said:
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What made you become a member, then?

How come they let you in?
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I know this is a troll attempt, but I'll ignore it.

Probably because I agreed to uphold those values and no one saw anything in my background check or interview to cause concern.
 
JihadJane said:
LightinDarkness said:
From the previous thread:

The core of freemasonic philosophy is the equality of all men, always pursing truth, and the need for community charity. It really is just that simple.
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What made you become a member, then?
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Because perhaps more good can be accomplished by mutual communal efforts toward the same goal than can be accomplished individually? That'd be one reasonable response that could be applied to joining any community-minded group.

JihadJane said:
How come they let you in?
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Because he was deemed to be of mature age and sound morals? Is it that hard to believe?
 
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