Childless [strike]Europeans[/strike] Americans

[plague311]

We're already in a place where a fetus's rights outweigh it mother's, it's only a matter of time before childless women are sued on behalf of hypothetical not-yet-conceived children they should have had. I don't expect anybody will be interested in suing the non-fathers, of course.

It feels like a version of the Handsmaid tale is coming to fruition.

"Shut your mouth, baby factory and do what you're good for!"

 

[JoeMorgue]

It feels like a version of the Handsmaid tale is coming to fruition.

"Shut your mouth, baby factory and do what you're good for!"

Ah excuse you that's WHITE baby factory.

It is the duty, nay the sacred calling of every white woman to keep the darkies from outbreeding us.

 

[TragicMonkey]

It feels like a version of the Handsmaid tale is coming to fruition.

"Shut your mouth, baby factory and do what you're good for!"

Oh, no, not factories: factories get paid to produce things.

 

[plague311]

Ah excuse you that's WHITE baby factory.

It is the duty, nay the sacred calling of every white woman to keep the darkies from outbreeding us.

That is absolutely true. As we've learned recently from some of our helpful, local conservatives. Diversity is in fact, NOT good for a society.

Keep it pasty to keep it proper.

Oh, no, not factories: factories get paid to produce things.

That is funny. Sad, true, but funny nonetheless.

 

[mumblethrax]

It's weird being told you're selfish by people who look at the world and decide it just doesn't have enough them in it.

Anyway, selfishness isn't really the issue. The reality is that most parents are just bad shoppers. It's extravagantly expensive to raise children, but cheap to pay someone else to do it, if you're not picky about how or where they do it. In the future we'll probably outsource the job--upload a genetic profile, select a set of values you'd like instilled, and get the occasional piece of ****** artwork to hang on your fridge. Even if you end up on the hook for private college, hey, think of all the restaurant meltdowns you'll avoid.

 

[dann]

Wouldn't it be funny if it turned out that Americans have a greater rate of childlessness than Europeans?

They don't - compared with most European countries:

Country - Total fertility rate - Rank
Niger 6.95 children per woman 1
(...)
United States Virgin Islands 2.046 children per woman 118
France 1.852 children per woman 135
Sweden 1.85 children per woman 136
Ireland 1.841 children per woman 138
Australia 1.832 children per woman 139United States 1.776 children per woman 142Iceland 1.77 children per woman 143
Denmark 1.762 children per woman 145
United Kingdom 1.75 children per woman 150
Latvia 1.717 children per woman 153
Belgium 1.715 children per woman 154
Norway 1.68 children per woman 157
Lithuania 1.67 children per woman 158
Netherlands 1.66 children per woman 159
Czech Republic 1.641 children per woman 161
Romania 1.62 children per woman 164
Albania 1.62 children per woman 162
Slovenia 1.6 children per woman 166
Estonia 1.588 children per woman 167
Germany 1.586 children per woman 168
Bulgaria 1.558 children per woman 169
Switzerland 1.535 children per woman 170
Finland 1.53 children per woman 172
Austria 1.529 children per woman 173
Canada 1.525 children per woman 174Slovakia 1.502 children per woman 175
Macedonia 1.5 children per woman 176
Hungary 1.491 children per woman 177
Serbia 1.461 children per woman 178
Luxembourg 1.45 children per woman 179
Malta 1.45 children per woman 180
Croatia 1.446 children per woman 181
Poland 1.42 children per woman 184
Spain 1.33 children per woman 190
Italy 1.33 children per woman 189
Greece 1.302 children per woman 192
Portugal 1.288 children per woman 193
Bosnia And Herzegovina 1.27 children per woman 194
Moldova 1.255 children per woman 195
Puerto Rico 1.22 children per woman 196(...)
South Korea 1.11 children per woman 200
Fertility Rate By Country 2019 (World Population Review)

 

[pgwenthold]

I really don't get people who say it is selfish to not have kids. Where did this idea come from? Is absolutely nothing not anyone else's business?

It's hard to imagine how I could be affecting other people less than choosing to remain single and childless, but apparently that's a problem. I seriously hate the world. I ******* hate it.

Let's make something very clear: we had kids completely and 100% for ourselves. Not for anyone else, or society, or any crap like that.

We had kids because WE wanted them.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Oh, no, not factories: factories get paid to produce things.

And of course are run by corporations that have rights and can't be forced to go against their beliefs.

 

[dann]

We're already in a place where a fetus's rights outweigh it mother's, it's only a matter of time before childless women are sued on behalf of hypothetical not-yet-conceived children they should have had. I don't expect anybody will be interested in suing the non-fathers, of course.

We know that it was a sin when Onan "spilled his seed on the ground," so I guess we just have to be very careful with where we spill it. (Or is it one of those scriptures we're not supposed to take literally? I'm always confused by that!)

 

[ponderingturtle]

Let's make something very clear: we had kids completely and 100% for ourselves. Not for anyone else, or society, or any crap like that.

We had kids because WE wanted them.

But that is just crazy, no one wants kids, they just have them out of obligation or punishment for sinful ways. I mean the idea of liking kids? That is a total joke, as Trump well proved when joked that he liked kids when one was crying at a rally.

 

[ponderingturtle]

We know that it was a sin when Onan "spilled his seed on the ground," so I guess we just have to be very careful with where we spill it. (Or is it one of those scriptures we're not supposed to take literally? I'm always confused by that!)

Just remember wear a condom don't pull out when you are screwing your brothers widow.

 

[plague311]

Let's make something very clear: we had kids completely and 100% for ourselves. Not for anyone else, or society, or any crap like that.

We had kids because WE wanted them.

So does that mean that YOU are the selfish one? I'm confused as to how these two posts fit together, but I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed either.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

They don't - compared with most European countries:

any data on how the various US minorities differ in fertility rates?
(if you have them handy).

 

[Checkmite]

Who is Baylor?! Is it somebody we ought to know?

Just trust me on this one: savor the precious few and dwindling moments remaining between now and the point at which you will inevitably find out.

 

[TragicMonkey]

We know that it was a sin when Onan "spilled his seed on the ground," so I guess we just have to be very careful with where we spill it. (Or is it one of those scriptures we're not supposed to take literally? I'm always confused by that!)

I believe the prevailing scholarly theory on that incident was that Onan's sin wasn't masturbation but the violation of the tribal custom of his people. He was culturally obligated to father a child on his brother's widow, and the child would be considered his brother's, continuing his brother's line and providing his sister-in-law with a child she'd otherwise not have. Apparently Onan was willing to bang her for his own pleasure but not to fulfill the cultural obligation, which was massively disrespectful to her (and his dead brother). The story got a bit flowery in translation and is thus frequently misunderstood to refer to masturbation when actually it was about pulling out before ejaculation. This has been Biblical Misconceptions with Father Monkey. Next week: Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute.

 

[plague311]

I believe the prevailing scholarly theory on that incident was that Onan's sin wasn't masturbation but the violation of the tribal custom of his people. He was culturally obligated to father a child on his brother's widow, and the child would be considered his brother's, continuing his brother's line and providing his sister-in-law with a child she'd otherwise not have. Apparently Onan was willing to bang her for his own pleasure but not to fulfill the cultural obligation, which was massively disrespectful to her (and his dead brother). The story got a bit flowery in translation and is thus frequently misunderstood to refer to masturbation when actually it was about pulling out before ejaculation. This has been Biblical Misconceptions with Father Monkey. Next week: Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute.

Looks like I'm going to have some issues in the afterlife.

 

[Silly Green Monkey]

Providing his brother with an heir, no less. There's property rights in the mix too.

Like if Prince William had died before (or perhaps with his children) and Harry had to sleep with his wife to make a new heir (who is ahead of Harry in succession).

 

[TragicMonkey]

Providing his brother with an heir, no less. There's property rights in the mix too.

Like if Prince William had died before (or perhaps with his children) and Harry had to sleep with his wife to make a new heir (who is ahead of Harry in succession).

According to the tabloids that wouldn't be anything new for either of them!

 

[dann]

any data on how the various US minorities differ in fertility rates?
(if you have them handy).

Yes, go back to the OP!

 

[dann]

... it was about pulling out before ejaculation.

Great! I never did! And since I have no brothers, I also have no sisters-in-law. One more thing I will never have to worry about. And thanks for the Bible class!